The purpose of Christ

Elin · May 22, 2015

Faith repositions a believer in Christ. This is the "law of liberty" when we look into the mirror, not forgetting the reflection of what was seen. The mirror is the word of God. "ALL OF IT," not just what we want to see. It's not our mirror, it's His.

Without faith, the works of the law puts us under the law, but if faith causes us to do God's will, and follow His instructions, we are living within the "law of liberty."

Faith is not taken away by the observance of the law. Not only that, seeing the validity of the law is not self works just because it's esteemed as "profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

James 1:21-25
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

It's that part about the old covenant not being obsolete--old and waxing away (Heb 8:13) that is your train wreck.

Grandpa · May 22, 2015

Colossians 2:13-15
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Jeff_56 · May 22, 2015

Grandpa said:

..... " IN CHRIST JESUS " remember that..... (and get in HIM today, if yahweh permits )

since HIS WORD judges, and the LAW is unchanged by JESUS, and only JESUS can pay the price the LAW demands
(and JESUS has paid the price the LAW demands)

if you trample on JESUS or HIS WORD, do you think FATHER YAHWEH will be happy with you?? no , no.

just-me · May 22, 2015

just-me said:

I thought that I might post this one more time so we could digest it even better. It's the law of what is declared clean by the chewing of the cud. This contention should never be within God's/Christ's church. Satan is pleased, and God is displeased.

Elin · May 22, 2015

just-me said:

This thread is for giving the "the gospel according to just-me," where the old covenant is not made obsolete--old and waxing away, as Heb 8:13 reveals.

Jeff_56 · May 22, 2015

just-me said:

"When arguments begin, it is wise to know how it happens, and who is behind it. Seems that this thread has been derailed by this tactic. After months of seeing this, I'm under the impression that it's on purpose."

as long as they who hate Jesus and HIS WORD are able to keep derailing , they will. yes, it is on purpose under the power of the prince of the power of the air,
and there may or may not be a 'remedy' in christ jesus on this forum. (not likely it seems from the forum's history --- look back 5 and more years and the same lawless tactics are used to prevent upright and uninterrupted discussions as today.

remember the rcc tells their members/deceived by the heresy/ to disrupt as much as they are able to, all the time, in every country, in every group, wherever they can.....

Sirk · May 22, 2015

Jeff_56 said:

"When arguments begin, it is wise to know how it happens, and who is behind it. Seems that this thread has been derailed by this tactic. After months of seeing this, I'm under the impression that it's on purpose."

as long as they who hate Jesus and HIS WORD are able to keep derailing , they will. yes, it is on purpose under the power of the prince of the power of the air,
and there may or may not be a 'remedy' in christ jesus on this forum. (not likely it seems from the forum's history --- look back 5 and more years and the same lawless tactics are used to prevent upright and uninterrupted discussions as today.

remember the rcc tells their members/deceived by the heresy/ to disrupt as much as they are able to, all the time, in every country, in every group, wherever they can.....

nice hat....very reflective.

Elin · May 22, 2015

Sirk said:

Jeff_56 said:

it is written in God's WORD that i should let you know that i have your best interest and welfare at heart.
and this is true.
but some time ago, (along with dark comrades) , you started attacking those of us who post what GOD'S WORD says,
even though you don't understand God or HIS WORD or us.

others watching have noted this also, without taking sides. (and in different words, more like you and your group use much worse language and attack others who expose your errors instead of learning from them)

you aren't happy with things as they are, and you're not at peace nor full of joy in christ jesus,
and
some or a lot here think that that condition is normal and accepted in the body of CHRIST, but it is not.

it is not normal nor accepted in the body of christ to not be at peace, to not have joy in all circumstances,

or to continue living in unrighteousness as if at home with sin and allowing it to snuggle up.

to wit: do you think sin should be forsaken? do you think you should seek God and Jesus and do what Jesus says ? (learn from Jesus).
if not, we're not even supposed to talk to you, greet you, nor have a meal with you (if you call yourself a Christian)

and.......he's back.

You mean troll?

Elin · May 22, 2015

just-me said:

The Pharisees consistently approached Jesus predetermined to trap Him in arguments they started.
It's a tactic. Usually I tend to not take people very seriously who do the same thing. See my signature. When arguments begin, it is wise to know how it happens, and who is behind it. Seems that this thread has been derailed by this tactic. After months of seeing this, I'm under the impression that it's on purpose.

The Judaizers did the same with Paul . . .and here.

Sirk · May 22, 2015

Elin said:

ya...he actually showed a witty side but then he tipped back over into his psychosis

Elin · May 22, 2015

Jeff_56 said:

You do realize that says nothing about the messenger. . .for the words of the Son of God himself didn't convey truth to some.

I will assume your pious self-righteous superiority (think Pharisee) and point out that
what you say reveals more about the hearers than anyone else.

just-me · May 22, 2015

Jeff_56 said:

I like this part, but I will not degrade the rcc with you, for I do not know enough about it to agree or disagree. Nevertheless on the other you're right on. It's obvious.

Elin · May 22, 2015

Sirk said:

With a subtle diversion to their false gospel in their presentation of the NT gospel.

Grandpa · May 22, 2015

Jeff_56 said:

Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Elin · May 22, 2015

Sirk said:

It's gotta' be sumthin'. . .because even an unbeliever can flag the self-exaltation.

just-me · May 22, 2015

Grandpa said:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

We can identify God's grace by His judgments, His mercy and faithfulness. By His word we do not judge according to the outward appearance, but judge/discern righteously. (John 7:24) His instructions show us how to exact His mercy by the gift of faith given to us of Him, that are described in the weightier matters of the law. This is growing in His grace through faith. By this, the flesh dies daily, and we pick up our cross daily and follow Christ. Luke 9:23

"For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly." Psalm 84:11

Elin · May 22, 2015

just-me said:

Yes, Jesus was born, lived and died under the old covenant law and its curse, which curse, however, he did not incur because he was sinless.

He was not at liberty to give the full revelation of the new covenant because it had not yet been inaugurated in his blood.
That he saved for his apostles to do. . .which we can see in Gal 2:21.

just-me · May 22, 2015

"Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old." Matthew 13:52

"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2 Corinthians 5:17

"Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." Romans 6:6

"Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;" Colossians 3:9

"Do not err, my beloved brethren." James 1:16

Grandpa · May 22, 2015

Romans 3:19-26
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
[SUP]26 [/SUP]To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

just-me · May 22, 2015

"Hear my prayer, O Lord, give ear to my supplications: in thy faithfulness answer me, and in thy righteousness.And enter not into judgment with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified. Psalm 143:1-2

"In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory." Isaiah 45:25

"And the Lord said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah." Jeremiah 3:11

"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matthew 12:37

"I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." Luke 18:14

"For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified." Romans 2:13

"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:" Romans 5:1

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Romans 6:1-2

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