If your are truly saved, then you cannot fall away. It is in the Scripture.
Jeremiah 32:40 I will make with them an everlasting covenant, that I will not turn away from doing good to them. And I will put fear in their hears, that they may not turn from me.
Matthew 18:12-14 What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the 99 on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? and if he finds it, truly, I say to you,, he rejoices, over it more than over the 99 that never went astray. So is it not the will of my Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.
John 6:35-40 Jesus said to them." I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I WILL NEVER CAST OUT. For this I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should LOSE NOTHING of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 10:27-30 My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and THEY WILL NEVER PERISH, and NO ONE WILL SNATCH THEN OUT OF MY HAND. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you WERE SEALED for the day of redemption.
I don't think I can explain better than that. The Bible makes it very very very clear. Yes people sin and fall into sin but if they are TRULY SAVED Christ will bring them back. I think the problem is people thinking they are saved when they truly aren't. It will all show in the fruit that is being shown in their life.
Jeremiah 32:40 I will make with them an everlasting covenant, that I will not turn away from doing good to them. And I will put fear in their hears, that they may not turn from me.
Matthew 18:12-14 What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the 99 on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? and if he finds it, truly, I say to you,, he rejoices, over it more than over the 99 that never went astray. So is it not the will of my Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.
John 6:35-40 Jesus said to them." I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I WILL NEVER CAST OUT. For this I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should LOSE NOTHING of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 10:27-30 My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and THEY WILL NEVER PERISH, and NO ONE WILL SNATCH THEN OUT OF MY HAND. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you WERE SEALED for the day of redemption.
I don't think I can explain better than that. The Bible makes it very very very clear. Yes people sin and fall into sin but if they are TRULY SAVED Christ will bring them back. I think the problem is people thinking they are saved when they truly aren't. It will all show in the fruit that is being shown in their life.
I love those scriptures you referenced to...
BUT
even in that
many who are saved and sealed still step out of GOD
whther it is seeing someone get something you think you deserve this is the sin of envy
or
you look at a woman and before you know it you are entertaining thoughts of sexual content this is sin
or
you barter with GOD about a job or relationship this is sin
or
you disobey what GOD tells you to do like witness to someone you really wished you could just avoid this is sin
there are many ways that we can claim we are saved but still sin thinking we are under GRACE and it is cool
NO
IT IS NOT COOL to GOD
IN FACT
the first verse I began with and second verse were both from the mouth of JESUS HIMSELF
Adam and Eve sinned
Abraham didnt believe GOD was giving him a son thru Sarah
Jacob means trickster because he tricked his brother out of his birthwright and GOD changed his name to Israel
Moses was not allowed in promised land for disobeying GOD
David had his sons die from his sins
Jonah sinned and was swallowed up by a great fish
Peter denied Jesus 3 times and cursed HIM
we are just like these
and GRACE has been around since the time of CREATION
but like these
we must repent just like each one of these we read about
IF
THEY HAD NOT REPENTED
We would not be reading about them and gaining hope we can make it too in our lives
MANY
want to say yes but JESUS changed all of that
BUT according to JESUS HIMSELF HE was before Abraham as I AM
SO
HIS GRACE has been around for a long time and yet HE allowed those in the desert with Moses to be swallowed up for their disobedience and sins
GOD is the same YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND FOREVER HE NEVER CHANGES
DON'T
get caught up in a lie thinking you can do whatever since you have been saved
you will find yourself burning in eternity forver if you do.......
JESUS had 2 purposes
be the perfect sacrifice for sin
be our example how to live (sin free)
THIS
IS NOT
A GET OUT OF LIVING RIGHT FREE CARD TO THINK ONCE SAVED IM COOL
HE DID NOT DIE
THE MOST HORRIFIC SUFFOCATING HUMBLING SHAMEFUL DEATH
BEAT BEYOND ALL RECOGNITION
SO
WE COULD WALK AROUND AND THINK WE HAVE NOTHING TO SACRIFICE OURSELVES
NO
HE DIED
THAT IF WE CHOSE TO BELIEVE IN HIM
THAT WE WOULD LIVE EVERY DAY LIKE HIM
WE WOULD BE JUST LIKE HIM IN OUR WALK
THEN
WE WOULD HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE
THIS IS NOT
WELL IM SAVED
SO
I CAN DO AS I PLEASE
THIS IS THE BIGGEST LIE EVER CREATED
NEXT TO EATING THE TREE OF GOOD AND KNOWLEDGE
WHICH IS BOTH BY SATAN