Ministering to homospirituals

[Rosesrock]

You sound like my Mississippi cousins. They were raised by a father and mother who believed "never trust a Yankee."

Of course, that also caused mixed messages, since their mother (Mom's sister) was born in MA and migrated to New York. So, each one of them truly believes you can't trust Yankees and yet each one of them found their spouse in the north. lol

Lol The more you read the more you know my humor.... i trust just not all the way...lok
Seriously though, My brother in law is from Michigan. Great guy, afraid of my 380, big on gun control, and well a picky eater, all those not bad things as long as we can be nice at Christmas, Im good.....I won't mention he did graduate from Auburn which voided all his northern-ness in the first place lol

Ill add that when my son started dating in college, i told him his first question needed to be....where does your mama live, cause that's where you're more than likely gonna be. Brrrr it's cold up there.

 

[JesusIsAll]

So the question really is:

is homospirituality a learned trait or are people born homospirituals and there is nothing that can be done about it....cuz they just are? Is it nature or nurture? Can a homospiritual be reformed or would they just be living a lie by joining the body of Christ?

While not born homospirituals, they were, like all of us, born ambiguously homospiritual, in having eyes, without vision, and plenty of self. It's the self which does not die, somehow wasn't killed, before it multiplied. (Like a small ball of bread dough, put in yeast and let it work, out pops a big old, black pumpernickel.)

There are only theories, one of which is the homospiritual suffers from a degenerative spiritual dyslexia, where God dies, instead of self, where the new man is super replaced with the old man, as a result, the old man taking on an anthropomorphic god replacement, born of this narcissistic, dyslexic maleficence. It's been written about in the Bible, of the Christ complex clinically, and parabolically around the end of "Man in the Iron Mask," in the form of deranged shouting, "I am Louie! I am Louie!"

 

[Reborn]

That's what bothers me. They want attention, even if it's negative attention, "yet" get lots of it so keep on going.

Those people headhunt newbies.

They swoop in on fresh blood. They attack, we see it, we join in......fight begins, they leave.....
Blah...blah....rinse, repeat as needed.

The cycle will never end, no matter if we feed them or not.

 

[Sirk]

While not born homospirituals, they were, like all of us, born ambiguously homospiritual, in having eyes, without vision, and plenty of self. It's the self which does not die, somehow wasn't killed, before it multiplied. (Like a small ball of bread dough, put in yeast and let it work, out pops a big old, black pumpernickel.)

There are only theories, one of which is the homospiritual suffers from a degenerative spiritual dyslexia, where God dies, instead of self, where the new man is super replaced with the old man, as a result, the old man taking on an anthropomorphic god replacement, born of this narcissistic, dyslexic maleficence. It's been written about in the Bible, of the Christ complex clinically, and parabolically around the end of "Man in the Iron Mask," in the form of deranged shouting, "I am Louie! I am Louie!"

This is a comment that has A LOT of depth to it and A LOT going on so I'll just touch on the surface of it.

We are all born homospirituals..it just so happens that true followers of Jesus are able to slowly kill off the "id" within. To be secure in their faith without the need to control others or be others "Holy Spirit". Those who are unable to kill off the "id" fail to do so because it is what drives them, their need for significance, to be heard and to hide their fears instead of face them.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Those people headhunt newbies.

They swoop in on fresh blood. They attack, we see it, we join in......fight begins, they leave.....
Blah...blah....rinse, repeat as needed.

The cycle will never end, no matter if we feed them or not.

There is a trolling phenomenon you often see, though, where, left alone, they serially post to themselves until exhausted, no takers of the bait, or will just congregate with other trolls, but one would suppose posting more and enjoying it less. The centerpiece of the behavior is getting attention, stirring the pot. Feed that critter, and that critter comes back for more.

 

[Sirk]

Those people headhunt newbies.

They swoop in on fresh blood. They attack, we see it, we join in......fight begins, they leave.....
Blah...blah....rinse, repeat as needed.

The cycle will never end, no matter if we feed them or not.

This is precisely the reason why I have no qualms about being harsh with them.

 

[JesusIsAll]

This is a comment that has A LOT of depth to it and A LOT going on so I'll just touch on the surface of it.

We are all born homospirituals..it just so happens that true followers of Jesus are able to slowly kill off the "id" within. To be secure in their faith without the need to control others or be others "Holy Spirit". Those who are unable to kill off the "id" fail to do so because it is what drives them, their need for significance, to be heard and to hide their fears instead of face them.

Very well said, Sirk. Can't think of anything to add to that!

 

[Rosesrock]

Those people headhunt newbies.

They swoop in on fresh blood. They attack, we see it, we join in......fight begins, they leave.....
Blah...blah....rinse, repeat as needed.

The cycle will never end, no matter if we feed them or not.

But God uses everything for good, right?
For me being a newbie and all, spotted the 'they' a mile away. Posted little and remembered all that mattered, in that God reminded me several things, so I do see it 'they' sharpening those already grounded

 

[Chica]

Genesis 1 and genesis 2 can be construed as 2 separate creation stories. That is a thick issue though not related to the thread. Ive heard great explanations for it and ill post them if i find it.

I think it has been proposed that there was an original earth (Gen.1:1) that got fouled up because Lucifer was cast to earth. Personally I think Gen.1:1 is just stating the fact that God created heaven and earth and nothing more. Thanks

 

[Sirk]

But God uses everything for good, right?
For me being a newbie and all, spotted the 'they' a mile away. Posted little and remembered all that mattered, in that God reminded me several things, so I do see it 'they' sharpening those already grounded

Thats because The Sirk put his "hedge of protection" around you. Let's give credit where credit is due.

 

[seoulsearch]

Feed that critter, and that critter comes back for more.

Too bad they're not like Gremlins.

We could keep them tame and docile simply by never feeding them after midnight or getting them wet.

Which, however, would mean they would never take baths... and that could be a problem.

But I'm pretty sure they think they're so clean as it is that they would probably never see a need to bathe anyway!

 

[seoulsearch]

Thats because The Sirk put his "hedge of protection" around you. Let's give credit where credit is due.

Is this "Hedge of Protection" anything like a "Circle of Power"?

If so, how do I sign up...

 

[Utah]

I blame most evil on liberalism, but not all. Your case in point is why I can't put all blame on them.

I don't want to derail this thread, but I posted a new thread in the News Forum about a Miami principal being fired. This pertains to the serious dangers of liberalism.

Now back to homospirituals.

 

[Rosesrock]

Thats because The Sirk put his "hedge of protection" around you. Let's give credit where credit is due.

Well thanks Big Brother, while you're praying down protection, add some mint chocolate icecream please.

 

[Sirk]

Is this "Hedge of Protection" anything like a "Circle of Power"?

If so, how do I sign up...

Pfffff...you're already a member!

 

[JesusIsAll]

But God uses everything for good, right?
For me being a newbie and all, spotted the 'they' a mile away. Posted little and remembered all that mattered, in that God reminded me several things, so I do see it 'they' sharpening those already grounded

This is very true. It becomes something hard to weigh, though, when sharpening turns to a foolish merry-go-round of repetition that can have a negative impact on one's spiritual center, which you always quickly return to, but, for instance, find myself asking, "Was that really even worth it?" I remember first coming here, seeking a reality based Bible discussion, not incessant defensiveness. That's not even fellowship.

 

[PeterJens]

So the question really is:

is homospirituality a learned trait or are people born homospirituals and there is nothing that can be done about it....cuz they just are? Is it nature or nurture? Can a homospiritual be reformed or would they just be living a lie by joining the body of Christ?

I think we are born pains in the arse, pardon my language. The Lord disciplines us by showing us His brokeness and our pride.

I remember watching the vietnam films where recruits are broken by discipline and shouting, the Lord shows us his wounds and holds up a mirror on us, devastating.

 

[Utah]

Those people headhunt newbies.

They swoop in on fresh blood. They attack, we see it, we join in......fight begins, they leave.....
Blah...blah....rinse, repeat as needed.

The cycle will never end, no matter if we feed them or not.

And to those haters who attack newbies, I say, I'm your huckleberry and that's just my game.

 

[Sirk]

This is very true. It becomes something hard to weigh, though, when sharpening turns to a foolish merry-go-round of repetition that can have a negative impact on one's spiritual center, which you always quickly return to, but, for instance, find myself asking, "Was that really even worth it?" I remember first coming here, seeking a reality based Bible discussion, not incessant defensiveness. That's not even fellowship.

I know! Me too! Back in my days of debauchery my....so called friends...did a better job of loving me than these homospirituals do to people here.

 

[Reborn]

This is precisely the reason why I have no qualms about being harsh with them.

I've always told you that it was cool that you did that.
If it were random members you were ripping into, that's one thing.....
We go for the...same.....5 members....who never......EVER quit.

You do it better than l can. That's why everyone just liked your post.
I just take the gloves off. No softening up the punches for me.

Mikey needs a new trainer. Methinks my style has slipped up.
BTW, don't let this go to your head, Sirk.....remember what happened to Tyson when he got big.


Starting snacking on people's ears.