Joyce Meyer -- False Teacher
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She, along with most of the other Word of Faith teachers, promote the same teaching that is in the book "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. It is known as the law of attraction. According to this teaching, our positive thoughts and words attract good things to our lives (such as relationships, jobs, money, cars, houses), while negative thoughts/words bring bad things to us (such as sickness, injury, divorce, job loss and natural disasters).
I agree with Chica, by the way.
I agree with Chica, by the way.
I am quite sure that the 7 years I spent studying and getting my Master of Divinity is worth a lot more than JM's diploma mill Ph.d from Life Christian Unversity, a school without accreditation, but a favourite place to earn Ph.D's by such Word Faith false teachers as Benny Hinn, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, etc.
My seminary is accredited by ATS - the Association of Theological Schools.
As for the rhetoric, you are new to this forum. I have the respect of many members, including people who don't agree with me. Sorry you are so eager to defend Joyce Meyers, instead of reading the posts about her unbiblical heresies. Your cult like devotion to her borders on idolatry. IMHO!
PS. Apparently, she still teaches the "little gods" heresy, according to a link posted here. Really, the whole Word Faith, speak things into existance is totally based on this heresy. Because only GOD can speak things into existance, so therefore, in order for the movement to be right, you would have to be at least a "little god." That is the logical end of this whole movement and heresy. Our faith is in Jesus Christ who is the Word, not my words, yours, or any false prophets, televangelists and heretical teachers.
My seminary is accredited by ATS - the Association of Theological Schools.
As for the rhetoric, you are new to this forum. I have the respect of many members, including people who don't agree with me. Sorry you are so eager to defend Joyce Meyers, instead of reading the posts about her unbiblical heresies. Your cult like devotion to her borders on idolatry. IMHO!
PS. Apparently, she still teaches the "little gods" heresy, according to a link posted here. Really, the whole Word Faith, speak things into existance is totally based on this heresy. Because only GOD can speak things into existance, so therefore, in order for the movement to be right, you would have to be at least a "little god." That is the logical end of this whole movement and heresy. Our faith is in Jesus Christ who is the Word, not my words, yours, or any false prophets, televangelists and heretical teachers.
Hey NotmebutHim,
New Age and Mystics intermingled "Affirmation, i.e. positive confession" theology with Christian teachings, distorting God's words. Kenneth Haggin, E.W. Kenyon implemented this false satanic doctrine into Christianity and now we have people quoting scriptures out of context to "speak things into existence".
It even borders on Chrisitan Science.
New Age and Mystics intermingled "Affirmation, i.e. positive confession" theology with Christian teachings, distorting God's words. Kenneth Haggin, E.W. Kenyon implemented this false satanic doctrine into Christianity and now we have people quoting scriptures out of context to "speak things into existence".
It even borders on Chrisitan Science.
I was gonna click like but there is no "like" thingy.
If God is Sovereign then how can we say he needs OUR permission to move? Word of faith implies that God cannot move unless we speak some magical words that will pull strings...
Romans 9: 15-16 "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion"
It does not depend on MAN's Effort, But GOD'S mercy and grace! He is not our personal Genie.
Romans 4:16 "Therefore it is of faith that it might be by grace..."
If God is Sovereign then how can we say he needs OUR permission to move? Word of faith implies that God cannot move unless we speak some magical words that will pull strings...
Romans 9: 15-16 "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion"
It does not depend on MAN's Effort, But GOD'S mercy and grace! He is not our personal Genie.
Romans 4:16 "Therefore it is of faith that it might be by grace..."
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I can understand being somewhat defensive of these tv preachers, especially if their words connected with you somehow.
Dont go off the deep end into cultist territory though by ignoring the facts about unbiblical preachers when they are clearly presented before you.
The fact is, Joyce Meyers is in the same boat as T.D. Jakes, Benny Hinn, and Kenneth Copeland. They are new age Bible twisters who are getting filthy rich off of unbiblical teachings. Now im sure Joyce and Hinn and Jakes etc have some subjective unbiblical reasoning for their twisting of scripture and their owning of multiple houses, private jets, and other excessive spending, but in they end they are clearly money-idolizing wolves in sheeps clothing.
Dont go off the deep end into cultist territory though by ignoring the facts about unbiblical preachers when they are clearly presented before you.
The fact is, Joyce Meyers is in the same boat as T.D. Jakes, Benny Hinn, and Kenneth Copeland. They are new age Bible twisters who are getting filthy rich off of unbiblical teachings. Now im sure Joyce and Hinn and Jakes etc have some subjective unbiblical reasoning for their twisting of scripture and their owning of multiple houses, private jets, and other excessive spending, but in they end they are clearly money-idolizing wolves in sheeps clothing.
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Mwc, i dont disagree with you, the catholic church, while imperfect, does great charitable works, and definitely does mor than the wolves do.
this isnt the thread for that conversation though. Stay on thread topic please
that goes to the people throwing jabs at catholics as well. Save it for a catholic thread.
this isnt the thread for that conversation though. Stay on thread topic please
that goes to the people throwing jabs at catholics as well. Save it for a catholic thread.