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Eph 4:5 "One Lord, one faith, one baptism,"
2 Pet 1:1 "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtainedlike precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:"
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1 Cor 1:10 "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment."
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Phil 2:2 "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind."
This is one of those verses which denominational commentators find uncomfortable, because the denominational world clearly does not mind the same thing. A common response is, “This is not a matter of making everyone see eye-to-eye or have the same opinion on every subject. Life would be very flat and dull without the give-and-take practiced when variety of opinion and viewpoint provides scope for friendly discussion and debate” (Bruce p. 62). The above comment can be right or wrong, depending on what you mean by "opinion". The Bible does give us areas in which differing opinions are allowed, because they are matters of indifference to God (Romans 14:1-23). Yet we can never fit or apply the above quote in the realm of doctrine. Paul is clear (Galatians 1:6-9; 2 Thessalonians 3:6; 2 Thessalonians 3:14; 2 John 1:9-11). The "catch" in the argument that says, "doctrine does not matter" or "we do not have to all agree even in matters of doctrine", is that such an argument completely negates what Paul is writing in these verses. Philippians 2:1-4 is a "doctrine" concerning unity among Christians. Can we disagree about what Philippians 2:3-4 teaches? It seems that the more logical view is that Paul expects every Christian to hold the same view towards what he is presently writing. Not only must we believe the same things, Christians are expected to embrace God"s truth with a common level of whole-hearted conviction. Apathy is just as wrong as accepting doctrinal error (Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22). Dunagan Commentary
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Phil 3:16 "Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let uswalk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing."
The Greek word for 'rule' is kanon meaning "a rod or straight piece of rounded wood to which any thing is fastened to keep it straight" The rule is a standard against which a thing is measured to see if it is 'true', correct. The bible being God's rule or standard to which a thing is measured to see if it is 'true'. The majority of people do not want to play by 'the rule'....2 Tim 2:5 "And also if anyone competes in athletics, he is not crowned unless he competes according to the rules." No one can run the Christian races yet not adhere to the rules of that race and receive the crown. The word 'rule' implies laws, commands to be followed. Rev 22;14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments (adheres to the rules), that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
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The last forum I was a member of, way overdid the moderating...to the point it was no longer enjoyable to post anymore because the smallest thing could get you a poke saying you were not being polite enough...although there were a few members who seemed to enjoy a little more freedom...which I found suspect haha
A bit more moderating here would not be a bad thing IMO...with regards to name calling and the like
[h=3]Pope Urges All Religions to Unite for Peace, Justice - VOA[/h]www.voanews.com/content/pope-justice/1625457.html
While he said history had shown that any attempt to eliminate God had produced ''much violence," he reached out to those who seek truth, goodness and beauty without belonging to any religion.
''They are our precious allies in the commitment to defend human dignity, build a more peaceful coexistence among people and protect nature with care," he said.
While he said history had shown that any attempt to eliminate God had produced ''much violence," he reached out to those who seek truth, goodness and beauty without belonging to any religion.
''They are our precious allies in the commitment to defend human dignity, build a more peaceful coexistence among people and protect nature with care," he said.
Believe it or not if it hadn't been for "false doctrine" the New Testament probably wouldn't have been written.
Harold O.J. Brown said in his book, "Heresies: The Image of Christ in the mirror of Heresy and Orthodoxy from the Apostles to the Present (New York: Doubleday, 1984, p.xxiii):
"the history of theology is in large part a history of heresies".
The struggle between heresy and orthodoxy has taken place in every century of church history.
Error, indeed, is never set forth in its naked deformity, lest, being thus exposed, it should at once be detected. But is craftily decked out in an attractive dress, so as, by its outward form, to make it appear to the inexperienced.....more true than truth itself..... . Iraneus, Against Heresies 1:2
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. Titus 1:9
Harold O.J. Brown said in his book, "Heresies: The Image of Christ in the mirror of Heresy and Orthodoxy from the Apostles to the Present (New York: Doubleday, 1984, p.xxiii):
"the history of theology is in large part a history of heresies".
The struggle between heresy and orthodoxy has taken place in every century of church history.
Error, indeed, is never set forth in its naked deformity, lest, being thus exposed, it should at once be detected. But is craftily decked out in an attractive dress, so as, by its outward form, to make it appear to the inexperienced.....more true than truth itself..... . Iraneus, Against Heresies 1:2
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. Titus 1:9
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yup...actually, I agree on the NT...much of it was written to counter wrong teaching, fighting, jealousies and the like
sometimes when people dream about how wonderful it would be to have a NT church, I am like 'well not really'...I used to think so myself until it dawned on me that everyone back then was just like us now!!
