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What will you do if a gay couple comes to your church?

  • Welcome them openly and receive them as believers

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Receive them as I would any visitor without knowing their salvation status

    Votes: 12 52.2%
  • Receive them and counsel them on their sin

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • Tell them they need to repent before they are welcomeGreet them, but warn they may not be comfortabl

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Refuse to receive or acknowledge them

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • hey are an abomination with no place in church

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other: Please explain in post(s)

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • My church will welcome them and receive them as believers

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • My church will receive them without knowing their salvation status

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • My church will receive them and counsel them in their sin

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • My church will tell them they need to repent before they are welcome

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • My church will refuse to receive or acknowledge them

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • My church will tell them the are an abomination with no place in church

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other: Please explain in post(s)

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
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Viligant_Warrior

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Some bright sunny Sunday morning at your church, a gay couple are going to show up at your church door. They may have an adopted child they register at the nursery, and will then go to your Sunday school class. Afterwards, they will go to the morning church service.

What will you do? What will your church do?

I asked this question on a thread in the News forum, but thought it was important enough to ask in its own thread. Have at it.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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On #4, responses are only necessary to the first half of the question. The second should have been deleted, but for some reason, wasn't.
 
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Richie_2uk

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#3
Some bright sunny Sunday morning at your church, a gay couple are going to show up at your church door. They may have an adopted child they register at the nursery, and will then go to your Sunday school class. Afterwards, they will go to the morning church service.

What will you do? What will your church do?

I asked this question on a thread in the News forum, but thought it was important enough to ask in its own thread. Have at it.
Being honest, we cant do nothing other than still show compassion and love for them, Yes we dont agree there practices, but we are to carry on loving them through Christ. However in many churches, they would be banned immediately, or thrown out, well to me? I think they may be trowing an oppotunity for those sinners to know Christ, Not every Gay or BI or what ever type of Gay they are, know Christ's forbidden word on that subject, so by throwing out the gays or kicking them out of the church, is like denying God to them. By them coming to church, it may open doors for there salvation. and who are we to stop that?

we are to love them no matter what practices they do. we dont have to like or accept what they practice, but we are called to loved them. and how can we love them if they are thrown out of a church?

God loves them too, he sent his son to die for them too. So who are those churches to stop a chance of salvation from them?

Love them but not there practices, but also explain in the love of christ, that if they continue to come to church, then they should be expected for judgement, criticism, and talks behind there backs, as people do. But its down the the Pastor and leaders of the church to guide them and hopefully the Gay person or persons will see God's truth and maybe one day, will accept it, to there salvation.
 
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atwhatcost

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Some bright sunny Sunday morning at your church, a gay couple are going to show up at your church door. They may have an adopted child they register at the nursery, and will then go to your Sunday school class. Afterwards, they will go to the morning church service.

What will you do? What will your church do?

I asked this question on a thread in the News forum, but thought it was important enough to ask in its own thread. Have at it.
LOL

My church is in the heart of the LGBT section of our city. I'm not even sure I was alive yet when this happened the first time. LOL

What's different with them compared to anyone else who walks into a church on any given day of the week?
 
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ember

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Some bright sunny Sunday morning at your church, a gay couple are going to show up at your church door. They may have an adopted child they register at the nursery, and will then go to your Sunday school class. Afterwards, they will go to the morning church service.

What will you do? What will your church do?

I asked this question on a thread in the News forum, but thought it was important enough to ask in its own thread. Have at it.
mheh

I can't answer for my church cause I honestly don't know..

For myself, God has already judged their sin, so I don't have to

However, they would be welcome...hey I've rubbed elbows with enough gay folks...as an artist/photographer, that profession is full of them...I don't do weddings or engagements...I'm an equine/pet and landscape photographer

The prob, as I see it, would be in taking the bread and wine...I don't think that would be right...an interesting discussion would be is it ok to let them as God judges them for what they do? But then again, a little leaven and that whole thing

I don't think Christians should go ape over the gay situation...but I think it will, absolutely will, have repercussions because God has let us know what he thinks of that sin.

As for the child? Dear God...as someone who has taught quite a bit of Sunday School, I would want to pray for and over that child...might not touch the child as you never know these days.

But surely God is merciful? He has not changed? I don't condone homsexuality and I don't think it should be making inroads in the church...you can see the repercussions coming down the pipe already
 

Grandpa

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I was thinking the same as atwhatcost.

We don't really know what anyone is doing outside the service on any given sunday. I haven't ever concerned myself with what others do outside of service.

I've always been more concerned about getting right myself. Which, any changes that have happened for the good, are a miracle. So far, I haven't been able to miracle anyone myself. But I'm still working on it.

I suppose what I am saying is sin is sin. As the Lord would say, He who is without sin cast the first stone. I'm not saying sin is ok, just that I can't cast any stones.
 

Utah

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I love gay people but hate the gay agenda. That said . . .

My church leases out the building every Sunday afternoon to a congregation of gay Christians. They love the Lord, I rejoice knowing they love the Lord, and on occasion we have combined services where together we worship and glorify the Lord.

Now some folks here will say there's no such thing as a gay Christian. All I can say is the gay people in that congregation are either loving and friendly or they're shy because they're not sure how they will be received. Regardless, they display and share Christ-like attributes more so than many straight Christians, like the one who wouldn't shake my hand in worship service because I had an earring.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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#8
...but I think it will, absolutely will, have repercussions because God has let us know what he thinks of that sin.
Ember, does God think of that sin any more harshly than he does others?
 
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EdisonTrent

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#9
If the church uses the KJV
God uses the weak to lead the strong as too in King James



How many folks know that King James (who commissioned the King James Bible and to whom it was dedicated) loved men and had sex with them? At the age of thirteen James fell madly in love with his male cousin Esme Stuart whom he made Duke of Lennox. James deferred to Esme to the consternation of his ministers. In 1582 James was kidnapped and forced to issue a proclamation against his lover and send him back to France.

Later, James fell in love with a poor young Scotsman named Robert Carr. "The king leans on his [Carr's] arm, pinches his cheeks, smooths his ruffled garment, and when he looks upon Carr, directs his speech to others." (Thomas Howard, Earl of Suffolk, in a letter, 1611)

Carr eventually ended the relationship after which the king expressed his dissatisfaction in a letter to Carr, "I leave out of this reckoning your long creeping back and withdrawing yourself from lying in my chamber, notwithstanding my many hundred times earnest soliciting you to the contrary...Remember that (since I am king) all your being, except your breathing and soul, is from me." (See The Letters of King James I & VI, ed., G. P. V. Akrigg, Univ. of Calif. Press, 1984. Also see Royal Family, Royal Lovers: King James of England and Scotland, David M. Bergeron, Univ. of Missouri Press, 1991)

King James' favorite male lovers were the Earl of Somerset and the Duke of Buckingham.

James's sexual orientation was so widely known that Sir Walter Raleigh joked about it in public saying "King Elizabeth" had been succeeded by "Queen James."
- Catherine D. Bowen, The Lion and the Throne

King James 1 was a known homosexual who murdered his young lovers and victimized countless heretics and women. His cruelty was justified by his "divine right" of kings.
- Otto J. Scott, James the First

Although the title page of The King James Bible boasted that it was "newly translated out of the original tongues," the work was actually a revision of The Bishop's Bible of 1568, which was a revision of The Great Bible of 1539, which was itself based on three previous English translations from the early 1500s. So, the men who produced the King James Bible not only inherited some of the errors made by previous English translators, but invented some of their own.

Desiderius Erasmus was a "Christian humanist" who collected Greek (and Latin) New Testament manuscripts and compared and edited them, verse by verse, selecting what he considered to be the best variant passages, until he had compiled what came to be known as the "textus receptus." Early English translations of the Bible, like those mentioned above, were based on his "textus receptus." Erasmus was also a monk whom some historians believe engaged in homosexual activities.

But without both King James and Erasmus, the most widely touted Bible in Christian history would never have been produced, the KJV


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[TD]A physical weakling, as an adolescent James had shown himself to be a coward, who liked only to hunt, to read (which he did, prodigiously) and to talk. To protect himself he wore thick quilted doublets, so padded that they provided a kind of armor against any assassin who might attack him with a knife. When he revealed a sexual preference for men, falling in love with his cousin Esmé Stewart and elevating him to a position of authority on the royal council, some of his nobles kidnapped James and held him captive, banishing Stewart and controlling James's every move. After nearly a year James escaped, but continued to resent his jailers; after he began to rule on his own behalf, at seventeen, he made it a priority to bring the turbulent Scots nobles under control.[/TD]
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As he aged James indulged his preference for handsome men, living apart from his wife. His doting fondness was part paternal, part erotic; he called his favorite George Villiers "sweet child and wife" and referred to himself as "your dear dad and husband." But to his courtiers, the sight of the aging, paunchy, balding monarch, who according to one court observer had a tendency to drool, leaning on his paramours was utterly repellant.

The first of the king's minions was Robert Carr, Groom of the Bedchamber, who the king elevated to earl of Somerset and appointed Lord Chamberlain. After six years of favors and royal gifts Carr was brought low, accused of murder and sent away from court. The second and greatest royal favorite, the extraordinarily handsome George Villiers, rose from cupbearer to Gentleman of the Bedchamber and ultimately to Earl of Buckingham.

"I love the Earl of Buckingham more than anyone else," James announced to his councilors, "and more than you who are here assembled." He compared his love for the earl to Jesus's affection for the "beloved disciple" John. "Jesus Christ did the same," the king said, "and therefore I cannot be blamed. Christ had his John, and I have my George."

With such pronouncements King James seemed to reach a new level of outrage, especially when he compounded his offense, in the view of many, by heaping Buckingham with costly jewels, lands, and lucrative offices.

-Royal Panoply, Brief Lives Of The English Monarchs
Carrolly Erickson, History Book Club
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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#10
Mr. Trent ...

This is not a KJV thread and I will not allow it to be turned in to one. Drop your agenda and address the poll, or move on. Thank you.
 
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EdisonTrent

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Mr. Trent ...

This is not a KJV thread and I will not allow it to be turned in to one. Drop your agenda and address the poll, or move on. Thank you.
im making a point if God excepted King James as being good enough to revise the bible
then you my brother should not worry of such things and never had posted this stuff in the first place it shows me your heart. Indeed
 
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EdisonTrent

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#12
If you don't want it allowed then you should delete this stuff of concerns of exceptness is for God only not us to judge as the poll is doing
 

Blain

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Well let me answer your question with another question. How did Jesus treat sinners who were considered abominations by the pharisees and others?
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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If you don't want it allowed then you should delete this stuff of concerns of exceptness is for God only not us to judge as the poll is doing
Bible versions have nothing to do with this poll.

King James' "worthiness or lack thereof" for "revising" (??) the Bible has nothing to do with this poll.

Please stay on topic.
 
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VioletReigns

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#15
Noah got drunk.

Abraham lied about his wife.

Sarah laughed at God.

Jacob was a deceiver.

Moses murdered an Egyptian.

Rahab was a harlot.

Gideon was fearful.

Jephthah made a foolish vow.

Samson had serious problems with lust and anger.

Eli failed as a father.

David was an adulterer and a murderer.

Solomon married foreign wives who turned his heart toward idolatry.

Elijah struggled with depression.

Jonah got angry and ran away from God.

Peter denied Christ three times.

Thomas doubted Jesus.

Paul fought with Barnabas.

Paul also consented to murdering Christians.

Barnabas compromised the gospel.

James and John wanted special seats in the kingdom.

All the apostles argued about who was the greatest.

Let's not forget our own weaknesses.... :p

God is able to accomplish His purpose in everyone He calls.
 
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Gr8grace

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#16
We have a friendly church, but one that also respects the privacy of others. We don't have greeters and visitors cards or make them stand up and introduce themselves. We are friendly, but we leave people be and let them mingle as they wish or many just come and say nothing.

Who and what people are is of no concern to us as long as they don't disrupt service.
 

oldhermit

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Some bright sunny Sunday morning at your church, a gay couple are going to show up at your church door. They may have an adopted child they register at the nursery, and will then go to your Sunday school class. Afterwards, they will go to the morning church service.

What will you do? What will your church do?

I asked this question on a thread in the News forum, but thought it was important enough to ask in its own thread. Have at it.
Welcome them, try to teach them, and refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of their relationship. Although welcomed provisionally, they would not be accepted as members of the congregation nor would we tolerate ANY misconduct or attempted advancement of the homosexual agenda by them. This would be cause for removing them from the assembly.
 
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EdisonTrent

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Bible versions have nothing to do with this poll.

King James' "worthiness or lack thereof" for "revising" (??) the Bible has nothing to do with this poll.

Please stay on topic.
your topic is about Gays in church should they be there or not should we except them in or not.
it has everything to do with the bible, bible states homosexual activity should not be done and the bible speaks of excepting others (King James is Gods example on how to except Gay people this is not written in scripture but it's a example for future generations to come hence us) but your saying your topic is outside this realm huh please enlighten me how your topic has nothing to do with the bible.
 
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EdisonTrent

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Noah got drunk.

Abraham lied about his wife.

Sarah laughed at God.

Jacob was a deceiver.

Moses murdered an Egyptian.

Rahab was a harlot.

Gideon was fearful.

Jephthah made a foolish vow.

Samson had serious problems with lust and anger.

Eli failed as a father.

David was an adulterer and a murderer.

Solomon married foreign wives who turned his heart toward idolatry.

Elijah struggled with depression.

Jonah got angry and ran away from God.

Peter denied Christ three times.

Thomas doubted Jesus.

Paul fought with Barnabas.

Paul also consented to murdering Christians.

Barnabas compromised the gospel.

James and John wanted special seats in the kingdom.

All the apostles argued about who was the greatest.

Let's not forget our own weaknesses.... :p

God is able to accomplish His purpose in everyone He calls.
Indeed and inspired a Gay King to revise the bible, but yet we as his children want to know if it ok to allow Gays in a church
 

Jesus4ever

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I would receive them as I would any visitor, without knowing their salvation status, and I would talk to them about their sin, the best way I could.