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Your kidding, right?
This is very rare. Not many will ever say that in the church today. Which makes you a very small minority. Okay, how about.... do you believe the Old Testmanet Law of Moses is still binding today?
So how can you correct those who are in error on this topic then?
So if man has no free will to choose God, and the LORD just chooses some people to be good and some people to be evil, then how exactly can God hold man accountable at a Judgment for what they have done if it was really God's decision that forced them down the path that they are on?
This is very rare. Not many will ever say that in the church today. Which makes you a very small minority. Okay, how about.... do you believe the Old Testmanet Law of Moses is still binding today?
So how can you correct those who are in error on this topic then?
So if man has no free will to choose God, and the LORD just chooses some people to be good and some people to be evil, then how exactly can God hold man accountable at a Judgment for what they have done if it was really God's decision that forced them down the path that they are on?
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I'm not kidding.
Yes, we are still spiritually accountable to the Law, not by Letter but by Spirit.
There is no error on the topic of free will. It isn't a Biblical topic. It is man's perception of reality, and has nothing to do with God's revealed reality. The two topics are not joinable.
God is Soveriegn, and man is responsible for his sins. There is no other philosophy given in Scripture,
only mortals trying to revel in more than what God reveals,
through their sophistry.
Yes, we are still spiritually accountable to the Law, not by Letter but by Spirit.
There is no error on the topic of free will. It isn't a Biblical topic. It is man's perception of reality, and has nothing to do with God's revealed reality. The two topics are not joinable.
God is Soveriegn, and man is responsible for his sins. There is no other philosophy given in Scripture,
only mortals trying to revel in more than what God reveals,
through their sophistry.
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So you are not familar with the popular worldly phrase that says the same thing you just said in part?
No, the Law of Moses is no longer binding as a whole. The Law has changed (Hebrews 7:12). Meaning, we are to obey the commands given to us in the New Testament and not the Old Testament. Granted, while God's moral laws have carried over from the Old to the New, none of the ceremonial laws or judicial laws have carried over. For we do not sacrifice animals to a priest anymore in a Temple. We do not render an eye for an eye, but we are to turn the other cheek. We can now eat unclean animals (Which is a violation of OT Law).
[VIDEO=youtube;zE7PKRjrid4]https://youtube.com/watch?v=zE7PKRjrid4[/VIDEO]
Free will is a choice that leads you down a path that determines which road you want to take. If you choose the red pill, it will lead you into seeking the truth. If you choose the blue pill, you can believe, whatever you want to believe.
Free Will in the Bible:
No, the Law of Moses is no longer binding as a whole. The Law has changed (Hebrews 7:12). Meaning, we are to obey the commands given to us in the New Testament and not the Old Testament. Granted, while God's moral laws have carried over from the Old to the New, none of the ceremonial laws or judicial laws have carried over. For we do not sacrifice animals to a priest anymore in a Temple. We do not render an eye for an eye, but we are to turn the other cheek. We can now eat unclean animals (Which is a violation of OT Law).
[VIDEO=youtube;zE7PKRjrid4]https://youtube.com/watch?v=zE7PKRjrid4[/VIDEO]
Free will is a choice that leads you down a path that determines which road you want to take. If you choose the red pill, it will lead you into seeking the truth. If you choose the blue pill, you can believe, whatever you want to believe.
Free Will in the Bible:
#1. Joshua 24:15 KJV -
"Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve"
#2. Matthew 11:28 KJV -
"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."
#3. John 7:17 KJV -
"If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God."
#4. John 7:37 KJV -
"If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink."
#5. Acts 2:38 KJV -
"Repent, and let everyone of you be baptized"
#6. Acts 3:19 KJV -
"Repent therefore and be converted"
#7. Acts 16:31 KJV -
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved"
#8. Acts 17:30 KJV -
"but now commands all men everywhere to repent"
#9. Revelation 22:17 KJV -
"Whoever wills, let him take the water of life freely."
#10. Genesis 4:7 KJV -
"If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."
"Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve"
#2. Matthew 11:28 KJV -
"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."
#3. John 7:17 KJV -
"If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God."
#4. John 7:37 KJV -
"If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink."
#5. Acts 2:38 KJV -
"Repent, and let everyone of you be baptized"
#6. Acts 3:19 KJV -
"Repent therefore and be converted"
#7. Acts 16:31 KJV -
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved"
#8. Acts 17:30 KJV -
"but now commands all men everywhere to repent"
#9. Revelation 22:17 KJV -
"Whoever wills, let him take the water of life freely."
#10. Genesis 4:7 KJV -
"If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."
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The Law still remains, spiritually discerned, by the Spirit within each Believer, as the very Law is written upon our hearts. Each Word of the Word remains as the Word, and those in Christ do not view any of the Word as useless or of any less active value in teaching and rebuking and encouraging towards righteousness.
As for this verses, in relation to free will: mere sophistry.
Choice and free will are not the same. I won't say that free will doesn't exist, but also will not support such humanism.
As for the first bit, it seems that you assumed the end of my quote to be worldly, rather than giving any benefit of doubt. That is a "judge now, prove it later" mentality.
As for this verses, in relation to free will: mere sophistry.
Choice and free will are not the same. I won't say that free will doesn't exist, but also will not support such humanism.
As for the first bit, it seems that you assumed the end of my quote to be worldly, rather than giving any benefit of doubt. That is a "judge now, prove it later" mentality.
