Woman position ( 1 Corinthians 14:34-37)

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bowharp

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Elin said:
"Without holiness no one will see the Lord."
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We are made holy through Jesus. No amount of work can ever make us holy or saved. Only through Jesus and because of Him.

We can never be holy because we are sinful. We will always sin no matter how many good works we do as christians. It's only realizing:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
 
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bowharp

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BarlyGurl said:
bowharp said:
Isn't great we don't have to follow legalistic laws to be saved in Jesus? :) :) :)







You are a foolish girl who errs in not knowing the distinction between legalism and the precepts of God which we are instructed to obey....THIS IS WORSHIP, not happy sing songs. You would do well to learn to READ your bible and conform your opinions to what the scripture says.
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You don't know me. So how can you judge me as being foolish?

Keep your hateful comments to yourself. Thank you.
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bowharp said:

What defines a man isn't by his outward appearance, physical or status.
[SUP]" [/SUP]But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.” 1 Samuel 16:7
You can be skinny, fat, ulgy, good-looking, metrosexual, alpha-man, disable, dis-figured... but God looks inwardly.
This applies to women. God looks inwardly. At her character, not the position or role of a woman :p
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Bow, I read the posts in this thread. Those that mention manliness are referring to the role and responsibilities of men. Fewer men today than in years past are fulfilling their obligations. A man of God will not allow popular opinion and the majority nor liberal voices to move him away from his God given roles as husband and father. He will also be backed with strong conviction and moral backbone. Unwavering in the truth.


 
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bowharp said:
We are made holy through Jesus.
No amount of work can ever make us holy or saved. Only through Jesus and because of Him.
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The Holy Spirit sanctifies us through obedience.

Wiithout obedience there is no sanctification, and without sanctification no one will see the Lord.
 
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bowharp said:
You don't know me. So how can you judge me as being foolish?

Keep your hateful comments to yourself. Thank you.
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Instead of focusing on the one personal statement and looking for something to be offended at why don't you focus on what she is trying to tell you.
 
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BarlyGurl

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I don't have to have met you... I am reading your comments on this thread... they reveal the errors in your understanding, You need to correct them... the SOONER THE BETTER. Forthrightly telling you you are in error, AND pointing you to the solution is not being hateful. In the same manner you misuse "hateful" as you do "legalism" and neither of the biblical definitions of these words are in harmony with yours.
 
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Elin said:
Agreed. . .we are not saved by obedience,
but also remembering that obedience is the evidence that one has been saved,
and the omission of obedience as a way of life shows that one has not been saved.

We can't get away from obedience in the Christian life.
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Exactly as the bible expresses obedience throughout it.

The obedience is not what does the saving in and of itself, but is the proof of one who is truly born again in the Spirit.
Without that obedience and the other fruits of the Spirit that will be added to our lives, the Lord clearly says those who do not have those fruits will be cut off and burned.
 
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bowharp

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oldhermit said:
Instead of focusing on the one personal statement and looking for something to be offended at why don't you focus on what she is trying to tell you.
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Because my focus is on Jesus and the Word. This takes precedence.

And to be frank, I don't know her well. She could say anything, her word is not gospel.

Keep eyes on the Lord. There's a lot of wolves clothes in sheep skin.
 
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bowharp said:
Because my focus is on Jesus and the Word. This takes precedence.

And to be frank, I don't know her well. She could say anything, her word is not gospel.

Keep eyes on the Lord. There's a lot of wolves clothes in sheep skin.
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What she is telling you is true. Stop being offended at the little things and listen to what others are trying to tell you. All she is trying to do is help you.
 
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No, a learning relationship has to go two ways not one way. A one way learning relationship is a sick relationship, inside or outside the assembly.
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Please forgive my derailment, but do you mind if I ask why you are not a Christian? I'm glad that you are here and love the honesty of your profile. I'm just wondering why you do not beleve in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. I am truly not trying to offend you, so please don't take it that way, and I wish you would stay.
 
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bowharp

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oldhermit said:
What she is telling you is true. Stop being offended at the little things and listen to what others are trying to tell you. All she is trying to do is help you.
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I'm not saying Obedience in the Lord is wrong. Not sure what's all the fuss about, to be honest.
 
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I am guessing I am now on ignore.... <shaking my head> Lord help!
 
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bowharp said:
I'm not saying Obedience in the Lord is wrong. Not sure what's all the fuss about, to be honest.
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The point she is trying to make is that obedience is and always been requisite to man's relationship with God. "If you love me you will keep by commandments" is a non-negotiable absolute. Paul put it another ways in Romans 81-15, Rom 8:1-15. "Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God." "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” Paul is not talking to non-believers here, he is talking to Christians.
 
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bowharp

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anywho, just want to say I love you all. Honestly, I do.

Apologies to anyone I may of offend. I really didn't mean too.

Your point of view is valid. I'm not here to judge anyone.

Peace and God bless.
 
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bowharp

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oldhermit said:
The point she is trying to make is that obedience is and always been requisite to man's relationship with God. "If you love me you will keep by commandments" is a non-negotiable absolute. Paul put it another ways in Romans 81-15, Rom 8:1-15. "Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God." "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” Paul is not talking to non-believers here, he is talking to Christians.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
 
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bowharp said:
no sis, you're not ignore. *hugs*

You are part of the family in Christ.
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That's a nice post Bowharp, But my concern is that you RECIEVE the admonishment and ACT on it... it is for your GOOD! if you evade or ignore this issue, it WILL come up again and again... until you find yourself is a desperate snare! That snare can be a number of things, but trust me they are NEVER good and at worst can cause you to hear "I NEVER KNEW YOU".
I am signing out... so I will not reply further now.
Bowharp, please go back to the previous posts and read them very carefully... it is good food for you :)
 
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bowharp

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BarlyGurl said:
That's a nice post Bowharp, But my concern is that you RECIEVE the admonishment and ACT on it... it is for your GOOD! if you evade or ignore this issue, it WILL come up again and again... until you find yourself is a desperate snare! That snare can be a number of things, but trust me they are NEVER good and at worst can cause you to hear "I NEVER KNEW YOU".
I am signing out... so I will not reply further now.
Bowharp, please go back to the previous posts and read them very carefully... it is good food for you :)
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Thanks BarlyGurl. We'll do. Have a good day and God bless :)
 
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Do you think Mikko ever notices his "sermons" are talked about long and hard, but in counterpoint to what he says?
 
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