Are woman supposed to stay silent in church?
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why sure...as a matter of fact, that's why duct tape comes in so many colors now...it's so that you can co-ordinate with the woman's outfit
I mean, just because the Bible says women can prophesy in church and a good number of women fulfilled important places in both testaments, why should we let that bother us?
Maybe the muslims have the right idea...why not ask women to walk about 5 steps behind whatever male they may have come to church with
don't let them vote, don't let them drive and by gum, don't let them join these public forums
why sure...as a matter of fact, that's why duct tape comes in so many colors now...it's so that you can co-ordinate with the woman's outfit
I mean, just because the Bible says women can prophesy in church and a good number of women fulfilled important places in both testaments, why should we let that bother us?
Maybe the muslims have the right idea...why not ask women to walk about 5 steps behind whatever male they may have come to church with
don't let them vote, don't let them drive and by gum, don't let them join these public forums
I mean, just because the Bible says women can prophesy in church and a good number of women fulfilled important places in both testaments, why should we let that bother us?
Maybe the muslims have the right idea...why not ask women to walk about 5 steps behind whatever male they may have come to church with
don't let them vote, don't let them drive and by gum, don't let them join these public forums
I am usually reluctant to presume that a thread has an insincere motive unless the OP demonstrates that to be so.
I don't think either of us wants to be intentionally rude to a real newbie!
I suppose that sincere posters don't post and disappear!
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I think the word of God is not dated and or not culturally applicable.....it seems when someone disagrees with the word of God concerning the qualifications that have been penned under inspiration concerning a pastor it becomes all to easy to sweep it under the rug and or under some recently coined phraseology invented by those who are not biblical to begin with......Maybe the publishers should start making perforated bibles for all who want to disregard the word when it offends their modern sensibility!
I tend to agree with you; however I do see both local issue and cultural issue as legitimate possibilities where an issue is so seldom addressed. The main problem I see with both of these explanations is lack of historical evidence in corroboration of either of them.
If there were historical evidence that Paul was addressing a local or cultural issue I would be persuaded that that was the intent.
The doctrine primarily arises from the pastoral letters to Timothy and Titus and a fleeting mention in a letter to Corinth; so there is reason to look into the possibility that the issue was local to Corinth, Ephesus, and Crete. The problem is that among Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny, Heroditus, Deodorus Siculus, and Eusebius; I can't find anything to support a local issue. Of course the fact that I have not found such evidence is not conclusive of its absence.
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And anyone who thinks this site is not the same thing as a church, I beg to differ.
"Wherever two or more are gathered in My name, there I am in the midst of them."
Jesus is here among us. I'd call that a body of believers. I'd call that a church.
"Wherever two or more are gathered in My name, there I am in the midst of them."
Jesus is here among us. I'd call that a body of believers. I'd call that a church.
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Actually, from what I was taught, the synagogues were divided.
<-----------women over there.
men over there--------------->
Even a curtain in between. So the teacher would read that Jesus said Blessed are the peacemakers, and some wife calls over to hubby, "Hear that, Peter? You're supposed to be a peacemaker." lol
Actually I can hear it more when Peter changed the dietary laws. "Hear that, sweety? We CAN have bacon with our eggs. Go talk to Farmer Apollo on the way home." Or, "Honey? What's he mean by...?" and then honey shouts back. You really only need three couples doing that before someone brings in a bow and arrow or a slingshot.
As for how it goes now, exactly why marry a hubby who isn't into studying the scripture? Kind of like having a trampoline with no springs attached on one side. The family does nothing but sag. Hubby IS supposed to be the head of the group. Why marry someone who won't be?
And unmarried ladies? Dad, Uncle Joe, older brother, BBF, pastor (after church) and elder? It's not like any woman should have no guys to turn to even in this day and age, or she's hanging out with the wrong guys.
Also why did that culture have more advantage to read the scripture? Scribes don't come cheap. Buying what they wrote cost a pretty penny. They probably had to go to the temple to read the scrolls. Now we can get it on the Internet, in libraries, at book stores. We've got the advantage. Not only do we have Bibles, we have versions that fit us, and Bible aids from men who studied the stuff for decades.
And, yup. There was a time to prophecy and sing a song, or speak in tongues with an interpreter nearby. But they didn't teach.
<-----------women over there.
men over there--------------->
Even a curtain in between. So the teacher would read that Jesus said Blessed are the peacemakers, and some wife calls over to hubby, "Hear that, Peter? You're supposed to be a peacemaker." lol
Actually I can hear it more when Peter changed the dietary laws. "Hear that, sweety? We CAN have bacon with our eggs. Go talk to Farmer Apollo on the way home." Or, "Honey? What's he mean by...?" and then honey shouts back. You really only need three couples doing that before someone brings in a bow and arrow or a slingshot.
As for how it goes now, exactly why marry a hubby who isn't into studying the scripture? Kind of like having a trampoline with no springs attached on one side. The family does nothing but sag. Hubby IS supposed to be the head of the group. Why marry someone who won't be?
And unmarried ladies? Dad, Uncle Joe, older brother, BBF, pastor (after church) and elder? It's not like any woman should have no guys to turn to even in this day and age, or she's hanging out with the wrong guys.
Also why did that culture have more advantage to read the scripture? Scribes don't come cheap. Buying what they wrote cost a pretty penny. They probably had to go to the temple to read the scrolls. Now we can get it on the Internet, in libraries, at book stores. We've got the advantage. Not only do we have Bibles, we have versions that fit us, and Bible aids from men who studied the stuff for decades.
And, yup. There was a time to prophecy and sing a song, or speak in tongues with an interpreter nearby. But they didn't teach.
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It never ceases to amaze me why someone would be against women speaking in a Christian church, would not become a member of a church which permits it, and yet becomes a member on this Christian site which encourages women to teach.
If you don't agree with the rules of this site, why become a part of it? Seriously, WHY?
If you don't agree with the rules of this site, why become a part of it? Seriously, WHY?