The Rapture
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1Jn 1:7 But if (conditional) we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Woe to all those who walk in darkness, Those who walk in darkness are NOT walking in the light are they? And if they are not walking in the light, they are not cleansed by His Blood. This is according to what all of Scriptures teach. Woe to this generation indeed, they claim with their mouths they are walking in the light, but their deeds are evil.
^i^ Responding to OP
Woe to all those who walk in darkness, Those who walk in darkness are NOT walking in the light are they? And if they are not walking in the light, they are not cleansed by His Blood. This is according to what all of Scriptures teach. Woe to this generation indeed, they claim with their mouths they are walking in the light, but their deeds are evil.
^i^ Responding to OP
I guess my problem is impatience. My wife keeps reminding me I was once right where many others are today. On this Matt. 24 reading, she just reminded me that way back in 1985, a friend, probably three times smarter than I am, tried to show me things that I have only finally "discovered" in the past three or four years.
And, I have to assume that he probably explained the simple logic of the chapter much better than I am able to..... but I couldn't see either.
And, I have to assume that he probably explained the simple logic of the chapter much better than I am able to..... but I couldn't see either.
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(Robin)
Dude! I've said nothing for or againt the so-called rapture ... it was you, that my comment was pointed at.
And you know this ... and you ignore the implications of what you are, and what you are doing, here to others ...
you're a sad little mean spirited man, but you dont need me to tell you this, you already know it in your heart of hard hearts,
and someday, perhaps at the rapture, our Lord is also going to talk to you about it ... so wipe that silly smirk off
your face, and take stock.
Dude! I've said nothing for or againt the so-called rapture ... it was you, that my comment was pointed at.
And you know this ... and you ignore the implications of what you are, and what you are doing, here to others ...
you're a sad little mean spirited man, but you dont need me to tell you this, you already know it in your heart of hard hearts,
and someday, perhaps at the rapture, our Lord is also going to talk to you about it ... so wipe that silly smirk off
your face, and take stock.
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You are flogging a dead horse trying to convince Pre Trib people they are wrong. I know because I was one. It is partly an emotional thing. Who wants tribulation! Someone once said 'A lie will fly round the world before truth gets its boots on' The Pre Trib Rapture belief is a classic example.
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(Robin)
Did I post you recently ... dont recall that, but if I did ... and if I hurt your feelings, I dont think I did it on purpose.
As for this other ... fellow ... however, YES, the comment was pointedly intended. It wont accomplish it's intended
purpose though, that's just foolishness on my part ... and yes, I do see a fool, every time I look in the mirror.
But was my comment to the bully, belligerent ... No, you'd best look up the term; my admonition was based upon
watching his many mean spirited postings ... he is a bully, pure and simple, and he's gotten away with it for a very
long time ... he must be a web site manager, else he would have been ask to leave way before this? Perhaps I'm
endangering my stay here, perhaps, but if no one else speaks out, this ... fellow ... will continue to do hurt others.
That you come to his defense ... surprises me ... he wont even come to his own defense. That is, a true, loving, gentleman would have, at least, ask what he had done, when someone remarks, as I have done ... No ... he didn't did he! That, in itself
should tell you volumns about his attitude towards others.
But, again, you are right, I'm not the most loving individual ... but I am old enough to recognise a rotten apple when I see it.
Did I post you recently ... dont recall that, but if I did ... and if I hurt your feelings, I dont think I did it on purpose.
As for this other ... fellow ... however, YES, the comment was pointedly intended. It wont accomplish it's intended
purpose though, that's just foolishness on my part ... and yes, I do see a fool, every time I look in the mirror.
But was my comment to the bully, belligerent ... No, you'd best look up the term; my admonition was based upon
watching his many mean spirited postings ... he is a bully, pure and simple, and he's gotten away with it for a very
long time ... he must be a web site manager, else he would have been ask to leave way before this? Perhaps I'm
endangering my stay here, perhaps, but if no one else speaks out, this ... fellow ... will continue to do hurt others.
That you come to his defense ... surprises me ... he wont even come to his own defense. That is, a true, loving, gentleman would have, at least, ask what he had done, when someone remarks, as I have done ... No ... he didn't did he! That, in itself
should tell you volumns about his attitude towards others.
But, again, you are right, I'm not the most loving individual ... but I am old enough to recognise a rotten apple when I see it.
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I very much appreciate your posts here on the subject of the rapture. I am in agreement with you and it is very clear in the Bible as far as I'm concerned too.
Especially since we know and are secure in the fact that there is no more judgment for the believer. It was taken care of on the cross. Also, was just listening to a message on the way to work tonight and it's important in the understanding of the scriptures that:
All the Bible is written "for" us..... But not all the Bible is written "to" us.
Some portions of scripture are to the Jews., and we also benefit from that but certain promises and warnings are strictly to the Jews. And certain verses are written for us the church. For instance the vs about let not your plight be on the Sabbath... that is to the Jews since they are the ones who follow the Sabbath. The church does not 'do' the Sabbath, we do Sunday.
Just a tiny example. Another example i just remembered,...when that vs about "Judgment must begin in the house of God." That is also speaking to the Jews since Jesus already took our judgement. When Jesus got the money changers out of the temple He said "make not my Father's house a place of merchandise or something to that effect., don't have my Bible here at work. or did He say "a den of thieves" ?? Either way, the idea is clear.