U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates
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The person she works for does not hold the same principles, obviously. As much as it is disappointing to hear, our employers don't care about our beliefs. They care about their business, and making money. Do you know how many jobs I didn't get because I told employers I can't work Sundays because of church? That's part of the reason why it took 11 months to get a steady job after graduating college. I'm just saying. You told your boss you're not comfortable with it, yet he still wants you to do it... If you're a strong Christian, you would have faith God would give you another job if you were to resign. Again. She knew the type of job it was when she was first hired.
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Below is post 154.
Below, I underlined the question you suggest you may have answered with the quote just above. I did "like" this above post.
I don't think she actually signed a contract that stated something like, "But, if the laws change, I don't have to abide by them.". So, there is no law broken. She is following her conscience and her beliefs as she sees they apply.
Still...I don't like this because I feel as if I am backing sin. I am not intentionally backing sin or disregard of God's laws. I am suggesting that we don't live in a theocracy. England had a monarchy at the time of this quote, and they decided what the official religion would be. One of the reasons for the pilgrims coming here was to avoid religious persecution and state-forced religion.
I think someone else posted this somewhere. Sorry, I'm not trying to pladgarize, but I think it is worth mentioning in this discussion.
Crossnote, I very much respect your opinions.
What I see is states laws becoming less relevant due in part, to federal funding of state run projects. I think that's at the bottom of all of this seemingly easy change of laws. I think states who do not follow the federal laws(play ball/go along with) will not receive proper funding for roads and bridges, and many other social programs that they cannot pay for on their own. In some sense, that's good. In some instances, it's not so good.
I don't think there is an easy solution. I do think, as I saw in another new thread on this topic, more and more state officials and judges are going to have issues. As for this woman, I believe she will be fired with just cause. It's a shame, but I don't think she has a leg to stand on.
Below, I underlined the question you suggest you may have answered with the quote just above. I did "like" this above post.
I don't think she actually signed a contract that stated something like, "But, if the laws change, I don't have to abide by them.". So, there is no law broken. She is following her conscience and her beliefs as she sees they apply.
Still...I don't like this because I feel as if I am backing sin. I am not intentionally backing sin or disregard of God's laws. I am suggesting that we don't live in a theocracy. England had a monarchy at the time of this quote, and they decided what the official religion would be. One of the reasons for the pilgrims coming here was to avoid religious persecution and state-forced religion.
I think someone else posted this somewhere. Sorry, I'm not trying to pladgarize, but I think it is worth mentioning in this discussion.
Crossnote, I very much respect your opinions.
What I see is states laws becoming less relevant due in part, to federal funding of state run projects. I think that's at the bottom of all of this seemingly easy change of laws. I think states who do not follow the federal laws(play ball/go along with) will not receive proper funding for roads and bridges, and many other social programs that they cannot pay for on their own. In some sense, that's good. In some instances, it's not so good.
I don't think there is an easy solution. I do think, as I saw in another new thread on this topic, more and more state officials and judges are going to have issues. As for this woman, I believe she will be fired with just cause. It's a shame, but I don't think she has a leg to stand on.
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Actually Mitspa, I have read the constitution. I was wondering perhaps if you are basing your principal argument on some other basis than that which I have based mine... meaning we are discussing the same general issue but focusing on different pivotal "facts".... this is why I was asking. Usually we are in agreement... but clearly NOT SO here, I was thinking to discover WHY.
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Yes im coming from a completely constitutional and biblical principals...holding that these are above any court or ruling or opinion of any group claiming authority on this issue. That as citizens our legal obligation is to the constitution not to a court..as Christians our obligation is to God above any authority than man might want to claim.
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If people are trying to get married...man and women...that agrees with God That is right to approve and promote...if they have sinned in the past, that don't mean they cant do what is right now and its right to approve what is right. We don't use the excuse that somebody sinned in the past to promote more sin...we don't say somebody sinned, therefore we must approve more sin.
