U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates

[nw2u]

Edit: I quoted the wrong post so I deleted it.

I think the government does still work that way. I think the solution is to work within the laws, to evangelize, to convert, while being tolerant as Jesus was. It isn't possible to convert all. That's biblical. It's denial of the truth or a lack of knowledge and understanding to think we can. It was never, to my knowledge, written in the bible that we will all believe until the new heaven and earth. At that point, I think there will be a small population on earth compared to prior.

I don't think the U.S. Constitution was set up to follow the bible exactly, but to afford opportunity to believe as we wish in the doctrines of our individual Christian beliefs. At the same time, it seems quite biblical to allow those who are determined to lose their souls to do so at their discretion, as long as they are not infringing upon the rights of the believers.

When the new kingdom is set up on earth, the devil will be gone for a thousand years. There will be great peace on earth until he is released again for a time. So, it looks to me like God allows the devil to tempt us to strengthen our faith or to solidify our unfaithfulness.

The majority of the citizens of this country must understand that concept. They are who have changed this country's laws by their election of it's officials. Infighting is destroying this country, not disbelief. You may be a better Christian than me, but what does that prove, your pride?

 

[Mitspa]

If someone is a better Christian...that's not a sign of pride but humility ...its pride ..gay pride that is at issue here...and those who will never yield to what is right and seek to force their wickedness upon others.

 

[Mitspa]

Religion or not, she still has a job to do. If she can't do the job then she should resign.

She did her job..her job is not to submit to lawlessness and perversion but to represent the good of her community.

 

[Mitspa]

My brother is a tea partier... and he supports pretty much every economic agenda that will put him under a bridge.

I think you have too much faith in people. For the last 200 years they've done nothing but vote against their own best interests on both sides. Humanity as a whole has bought lock stock and barrel into satan's lies and deceptions. And that ain't going to change.

Kudos to you if you think you're going to stop satan's world government of oppression. I wish you luck. Me, I'm not listening to liberals or conservatives. I'm listening to my God who tells me it's only going to get worse, and that we should stop straining at the gnat and get ready for the inevitable.

I don't need luck...I serve God and if you think God is telling you to surrender to evil..Its not the god of the bible, its the god of this age.

 

[nw2u]

If someone is a better Christian...that's not a sign of pride but humility ...its pride ..gay pride that is at issue here...and those who will never yield to what is right and seek to force their wickedness upon others.

Only by the fruits of their labor, not by posts on a forum.

Equal rights to Christians and non-Christians alike, is actually what is at issue here.

As others have stated, it's her duty to resign and her obligation through her Christian beliefs to advocate for her convictions. If God's grace and her hard work allow, she will succeed in placing Christian laws on the books and eliminating all vestige of free will. Yes, believe it or not, those who sin have that ability due to God given free will. They will end up in eternal punishment, but God doesn't force them to choose Him. He wants our love freely given. It's the very best kind.

 

[Dude653]

Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to other peoples civil rights. This is exactly why people hate Christians

 

[Mitspa]

Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to other peoples civil rights. This is exactly why people hate Christians

No this is my nation and I have every right..maybe more, to shape this society as any pervert does.

 

[Mitspa]

Only by the fruits of their labor, not by posts on a forum.

Equal rights to Christians and non-Christians alike, is actually what is at issue here.

As others have stated, it's her duty to resign and her obligation through her Christian beliefs to advocate for her convictions. If God's grace and her hard work allow, she will succeed in placing Christian laws on the books and eliminating all vestige of free will. Yes, believe it or not, those who sin have that ability due to God given free will. They will end up in eternal punishment, but God doesn't force them to choose Him. He wants our love freely given. It's the very best kind.

So why are you posting? And resisting sexual deviants and lawless judges desire to corrupt our society has nothing to do with trying to force religion on anyone, thats about being a good citizens upholding what is constitutional and right for our society.

 

[crossnote]

Just a clarification...
martyr=witness, not necessarily unto death. She is truly being a witness (martyr).

 

[crossnote]

Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to other peoples civil rights. This is exactly why people hate Christians

WRONG. And so are those who agree with your twisted reasoning.
The reason they hate Christians and their convictions...

John 3:19 (KJV) And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

 

[nw2u]

Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to other peoples civil rights.

God's word is relevant. Many just don't understand that God given free will does allow for civil rights for all. We have a choice between good and evil. What is good? What is evil? Which faith is yours? Are you an agnostic or atheist? God doesn't step in when you are trying to decide what to follow. He provides the gifts of the Holy Spirit and His word for help.

If you are Christian, then you believe those definitions of good and evil are in God's words. If you are Muslim, the prophet and their God has definitions of good and evil. If you are a pagan, I don't know where the definitions are. If you are a satanist, I don't know where those definitions are, but I imagine them to be in direct opposition to God's words. If you are agnostic or atheist, I imagine science, philosophers, or economics might be your guide to what is good and evil. I don't know for sure.

This is exactly why people hate Christians

No, folks hate Christians because they are constantly arguing every jot and tittle of the law and spend too much time fighting each other, than living His word and thereby proving their positions, God's word, through the fruits of their labor. Jesus words to Peter come to mind. Forgive me for being lazy and paraphrasing. Do you love me? Yes. Feed my sheep, and so forth.

Did Jesus mean to feed them with a loaf of bread? Well, yes, when needed, but I think he meant to feed their minds and souls with the word of God through the word and exemplary living. Yes, we are all evil and covered in the Blood, but not until we repent and so forth.

Sorry. I will go now. I am tired and I don't want to make a terrible error. Thanks for considering my opinions.

 

[Mitspa]

Did I just read that this fellow who claims to be a Christian and seems to promote evil and attack those who stand against it.."hates christains" ?

 

[Mitspa]

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

 

[nw2u]

Just a clarification...
martyr=witness, not necessarily unto death. She is truly being a witness (martyr).

Not according to the earliest Christians. This is the new, modern definition you posted.

 

[nw2u]

Did I just read that this fellow who claims to be a Christian and seems to promote evil and attack those who stand against it.."hates christains" ?

No, and this is exactly why you are spreading misinformation. You have an issue with reading comprehension.

 

[Mitspa]

Not according to the earliest Christians. This is the new, modern definition you posted.

We will just call her a hero....

 

[Mitspa]

No, and this is exactly why you are spreading misinformation. You have an issue with reading comprehension.

ok fair enough...I did fail to see the part where he expressed his hate through others....

 

[Mitspa]

By the way ...the bible says we (Christians) are hated for upholding righteousness...not for attacking others who do or promoting that evil is a civil right....

 

[nw2u]

ok fair enough...I did fail to see the part where he expressed his hate through others....

My hate of Christians? Please reconsider your opinions. You are gravely in error and push away those seeking to become closer to God through a greater understanding of His words, by your posts.

 

[Mitspa]

My hate of Christians? Please reconsider your opinions. You are gravely in error and push away those seeking to become closer to God through a greater understanding of His words, by your posts.

First I was not referring to you .... and second I don't think folks need the kind of knowledge of Christ that suggest that we don't stand for what is right and legal or allow evil to spread while we pretend to be spiritual...if you or anyone else are teaching that sort of Christ...its a false Christ and have no business trying to be a teacher of Gods Word.