U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates

[BarlyGurl]

First I was not referring to you .... and second I don't think folks need the kind of knowledge of Christ that suggest that we don't stand for what is right and legal or allow evil to spread while we pretend to be spiritual...if you or anyone else are teaching that sort of Christ...its a false Christ and have no business trying to be a teacher of Gods Word.

2 Cor. 10:3For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,

 

[Mitspa]

2 Cor. 10:3For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,

you forgot something...

2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

 

[Mitspa]

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

 

[Dude653]

Her Christianity doesn't exempt her from the law. When you break the law, you go to jail.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to other peoples civil rights. This is exactly why people hate Christians

ACTUALLY, God tells us why the world hates us.

Are you sure youre a Christian? Are you really so worried about being a friend of the earth that you would make yourself an enemy of God?

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

Luke 7:23
"Blessed is the one who is not offended by me"

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to other peoples civil rights. This is exactly why people hate Christians

People hate Christians because Christians stand for the truth of God's word, and it offends the unbeliever.

 

[crossnote]

Not according to the earliest Christians. This is the new, modern definition you posted.

Acts 22:20 (KJV) And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.

Here is my proof, show me your citations...

μάρτυς, μάρτυρος, ὁ. witness; (1) as a witness to ascertainable facts; (a) legally (MT 26.65); (b) generally, as one who testifies to something (RO 1.9); (2) as one who declares facts directly known to himself; (a) from firsthand knowledge (AC 1.22) or (b) from firsthand experience (HE 12.1); (3) as one who tells what he believes, even though it results in his being killed for it witness, martyr (AC 1.8; RV 17.6) ANLEX

33.270 μάρτυς (1) ρος, dat. pl. σιν m: (derivative of μαρτυρέω[a] to witness, 33.262) a person who witnesses - witness, one who testifies. ἵνα ἐπὶ στόματος δύο μαρτύρων ἢ τριω̂ν σταθῃ̂ πα̂ν ῥη̂μα in order that everything may be confirmed on the basis of what two or three witnesses say MAT.18:16. LOUW /NIDA

[3459] μάρτυς martys 35x (1) a judicial witness, deponent, Mt. 18:16; Heb. 10:28; 2) generally, a witness to a circumstance, Lk. 24:48; Acts 10:41; in NT a witness, a testifier, of a doctrine, Rev. 1:5; 3,14; 11,3; 3) a martyr, Acts 22:20; Rev. 2:13 [3144] See witness. MOUNCE

μάρτυς mártys [witness],
μαρτυρέω martyréō [to bear witness], μαρτυρία martyría [witness, testimony], μαρτύριον martýrion [testimony, proof], ἐπιμαρτυρέω epimartyréō [to attest], συμμαρτυρέω symmartyréō [to bear witness with], συνεπιμαρτυρέω synepimartyréō [to confirm], καταμαρτυρέω katamartyréō [to bear witness against], μαρτύρομαι martýromai [to affirm], διαμαρτύρομαι diamartýromai [to charge], προμαρτύρομαι promartýromai [to bear witness beforehand], ψευδόμαρτυς pseudómartys [false witness], ψευδομαρτυρέω pseudomartyréō [to bear false witness], ψευδομαρτυρία pseudomartyría [false testimony] TDNT

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Not according to the earliest Christians. This is the new, modern definition you posted.

Crossnote is right. The NASB, which is the most literal translation from the original Greek, even translates it "witness" in Acts 22:20.

 

[crossnote]

We will just call her a hero....

See post 508. Martyr = witness.

 

[Dude653]

I am a Christian but Christianity does not exempt us from the law. She broke the law

 

[crossnote]

Her Christianity doesn't exempt her from the law. When you break the law, you go to jail.

Your christianity apparantly doesn't exempt you from spamming the same ole twisted message either.

 

[Dude653]

I'm gonna go to Walmart naked and when I go to jail, I'm gonna tell the judge that God said I don't have to wear clothes.....you know... Cause Christians are exempt from the law..

 

[crossnote]

I'm gonna go to Walmart naked and when I go to jail, I'm gonna tell the judge that God said I don't have to wear clothes.....you know... Cause Christians are exempt from the law..

God tells us marriage= one man+one woman.
Where does God tell us we don't have to wear clothes?

 

[Mitspa]

Her Christianity doesn't exempt her from the law. When you break the law, you go to jail.

She is obeying the constitution ...the true law of this law, not a small group of deviant judges. Furthermore obedience to God is above any law or court ruling of man.

 

[crossnote]

She is obeying the constitution ...the true law of this law, not a small group of deviant judges. Furthermore obedience to God is above any law or court ruling of man.

If that expanation didn't have to be repeated over and over, this thread would be down to 5 pages

 

[Mitspa]

I'm gonna go to Walmart naked and when I go to jail, I'm gonna tell the judge that God said I don't have to wear clothes.....you know... Cause Christians are exempt from the law..

This is your biblical defense of your position? Your spiritual maturity is amazing.

 

[Dude653]

Your religion and faith in God is for you to control yourself not for you to control others. I understand that everyone is entitled to their religious convictions but when your religion is violating other people's rights then that's when you have a problem. Anyone who doesn't see this is just being narrow minded and bigoted. What if I were president and pass a law that said no other religion than Christianity is to be recognized. That would be violating a lot of people's rights. As I mentioned earlier, religion has no place in government. You either have to accommodate all or accommodate none... Christians are not the only people who have rights in this country.... when one person dictates all then you have just that, a dictatorship

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

This is your biblical defense of your position? Your spiritual maturity is amazing-

"-ly lacking."

I'm pretty sure that's what you would've said if not engaging in irony, right?

Or was that sarcasm? Oh, well ...

 

[Mitspa]

Your religion and faith in God is for you to control yourself not for you to control others. I understand that everyone is entitled to their religious convictions but when your religion is violating other people's rights then that's when you have a problem. Anyone who doesn't see this is just being narrow minded and bigoted. What if I were president and pass a law that said no other religion than Christianity is to be recognized. That would be violating a lot of people's rights. As I mentioned earlier, religion has no place in government. You either have to accommodate all or accommodate none... Christians are not the only people who have rights in this country.... when one person dictates all then you have just that, a dictatorship

You seem to have no understanding of our constitutional system ...and you don't seem to have any desire to understand anything but what the left wing propaganda machine has told you to think. We as believers have every right to shape our society into the moral society that represents our values...that's what the constitution says and upholds.