U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates

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kaylagrl

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ishmel weather u like it or not was first born. that makes him air to the blessing . but the bible don't work that way god rewards decietfullness look at Jacob he wasn't first born and he stole his brothers blessing. gods cool with that. and when Abraham went to Egypt and told pharo sarah was his sister so farrow takes her and god punishes pharo for nutn. and Abraham walked out with everything. another story. the ten plagues of Egypt cause moses couldn't take his people. so god hardens pharos heart. so he wont letthe people go. and god only tortures these people just because he is god also god murdered innocent children all for a point. if that isn't evil i don't know what is. what exactly did satan do? that is much worse then that?


I think you better slow down.You're well on your way to being banned.This is a Christian site and it appears you are Muslim,just a guess.Either way take a look at the rules of CC again. Just a friendly warning.
 

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Yes the miss place blame game our society has lead people into believing is ridiculous.

Me and my sisters grew up listening to the same music, watching the same movies, and playing the same video games that they try to say causes people to kill and steal. But because of the environment we grew up with good parents disciplining us we never murdered anybody.
Murdering is frowned upon despite culture... Most cultures condemn that.

Yeah, and who monitors your TV intake? Your parents. Who buys you the games? Your parents. And besides this, the issue is not murder but homosexuality. If you can parelles that and murder, you could parelle fornication and murder.

I agree it is getting harder to control these things, with the internet making content far easier to retrieve and both parents working.
But it's astounding that one minute, Christians may blame society for corrupting their kids, but if someone points to society as the greater influence of their sins (that Christians don't like) then the "no one pulls your strings and take responsibility for yourself" card is pulled. The card that in this context isn't favorable.

The Bible puts the onus on the parent to raise the children - not the culture around them. "You are not of this world" oh but the world need to bend for us so that our kids will sin less!
 
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But taking an oath to the country is different. You swear to uphold the law and AGREE to the consequences of breaking your oath. The bible even teaches not to break your oaths. It's ironic that she's in the situation she's in because she did what Jesus warns against - swearing alligeince or swearing faithfulness.

Matthew 5
The job description changed. Clearly she wouldnt have taken an oath had gay marriage been legal at the time she took the job.
 

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No but we need to take the politics and political correctness and social engineering out of schools and teach them critical thinking, math, science and whatnot....and they need to go to the bathrooms and locker rooms that correspond with the plumbing they possess. All the social engineering does is give them a crutch and teach them how to use them or it to get ahead..... instead of being a productive member of society and working hard to be successful.

If you have a kid in your class that is missing an arm....do you point out to him that he is missing an arm...or do you teach him how to use his knee in its place.....that sort of thing. The gay agenda is nothing more that a full frontal assault on the family...and the family is what holds a nation together. A strong family is an insurance policy for future success of said nation.
Political correctness, media bias and censoring is a big problem. And if you don't like what's going on in schools, why don't you pull them out and homeschooling them, instead of waiting for someone to do these things?

And again, I understand it's not that simple for parents who work. But to those Christians who don't have children, a good question to ask yourself is: Do I want to deal with this climate as a parent? It's probably best not to have kids if you are very uncomfortable with this culture. My opinion - we don't think we will.
 

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The job description changed. Clearly she wouldnt have taken an oath had gay marriage been legal at the time she took the job.
... and she just missed it plastered all over the news and papers? Why didn't she immediately make plans to resign?
And Jesus never put conditions on "do not swear AT ALL."
 
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... and she just missed it plastered all over the news and papers? Why didn't she immediately make plans to resign?
And Jesus never put conditions on "do not swear AT ALL."

Im not her so I cant answer that.Im just saying the job description changed.
 

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Im not her so I cant answer that.Im just saying the job description changed.
She may have needed the money with no other immediate prospects... like the rest of us. :/
 

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Yes the miss place blame game our society has lead people into believing is ridiculous.

Me and my sisters grew up listening to the same music, watching the same movies, and playing the same video games that they try to say causes people to kill and steal. But because of the environment we grew up with good parents disciplining us we never murdered anybody.
I didn't read this closely enough, lol, forgive me. My ideas still stand for anyone else to read through. :)
 
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Political correctness, media bias and censoring is a big problem. And if you don't like what's going on in schools, why don't you pull them out and homeschooling them, instead of waiting for someone to do these things?

And again, I understand it's not that simple for parents who work. But to those Christians who don't have children, a good question to ask yourself is: Do I want to deal with this climate as a parent? It's probably best not to have kids if you are very uncomfortable with this culture. My opinion - we don't think we will.
Well...First of all I like the school my son is in currently. Secondly, I parent him and hope he becomes a leader and not a follower. Obviously, life happens, but currently he is proving himself to be a leader. You have to pray with your kids and pray into them the qualities of character you want them to possess. I'm not against homeschooling but it sort of covers the lamp if you will. I want him to influence other kids in a positive way.
 

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Well...First of all I like the school my son is in currently. Secondly, I parent him and hope he becomes a leader and not a follower. Obviously, life happens, but currently he is proving himself to be a leader. You have to pray with your kids and pray into them the qualities of character you want them to possess. I'm not against homeschooling but it sort of covers the lamp if you will. I want him to influence other kids in a positive way.
There are actually a lot of misconceptions about homeschooling - kids can be just as well adjusted socially as any other child (thus able to spread the Gospel without awkardness, I think you mean). How a homeschooled child adjusts socially again largely falls on the parent and the environment they expose their kids to.
 
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There are actually a lot of misconceptions about homeschooling - kids can be just as well adjusted socially as any other child (thus able to spread the Gospel without awkardness, I think you mean). How a homeschooled child adjusts socially again largely falls on the parent and the environment they expose their kids to.
For sure...I know a family very well that homeschooled their kids. They have 5 and each one of them has turned out to be a stellar human being.
 

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yes i volunteer. i give money to the homless and i don't tell them there going to hell if they don't believe my god is real. the funny thing is the islamists believe your going to hell because you deny there god(the funny thing is there the same god)
If you were 14 there'd be an excuse for such ignorance...but 46? Eh Eh.
 

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If you can show me in the Bible where it says we aew to force Christianity on others thru the Judicial system then I will eat the page
Is that your best straw Man? No one is saying any such thing. Where in Scripture does it say we can't be an influence for good, where we can't speak out, where we can't resist an evil edict by non participation, where we can't vote?
 
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Is that your best straw Man? No one is saying any such thing. Where in Scripture does it say we can't be an influence for good, where we can't speak out, where we can't resist an evil edict by non participation, where we can't vote?
This is the old...christians are supposed to be 'nice' and not stir the pot and if they do they are being hateful bigots etc. It's just a way that they can "walk of the field" and not be held accountable for their actions or behavior.
 

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... and she just missed it plastered all over the news and papers? Why didn't she immediately make plans to resign?
And Jesus never put conditions on "do not swear AT ALL."
So every time an ungodly ruling is passed we are to just resign? It's a good thing Mordecai and Esther didn't follow your proposal.
 

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But taking an oath to the country is different. You swear to uphold the law and AGREE to the consequences of breaking your oath. The bible even teaches not to break your oaths. It's ironic that she's in the situation she's in because she did what Jesus warns against - swearing alligeince or swearing faithfulness.

Matthew 5

I am aware that Christ tells us to take no oaths at all when talking to God, yeah.


But that doesnt change the fact that God is still against homosexuality.