My b/f said that every man would fall...Is this the truth?

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Yeraza_Bats

Yeraza_Bats

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Im actually a bit offended by what your bf said, Im not real excited to be lumped into some category of sexual deviance just because Im male : /

There is nothing that forces you to commit sexual immorality besides your own personal choice, if a guy really cant "control" himself in that situation, its because he has chosen not to do the right thing, but give into temptation. Its because he wanted to do it, not because men are so perverse that they have no self control over themselves :/
Claiming anything beyond that is just making excuses to justify doing wrong.
 
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Lily777

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Yeraza_Bats said:
Im actually a bit offended by what your bf said, Im not real excited to be lumped into some category of sexual deviance just because Im male : /

There is nothing that forces you to commit sexual immorality besides your own personal choice, if a guy really cant "control" himself in that situation, its because he has chosen not to do the right thing, but give into temptation. Its because he wanted to do it, not because men are so perverse that they have no self control over themselves :/
Claiming anything beyond that is just making excuses to justify doing wrong.
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Your response reminded me of this Bible verse. And I'm trying to get to the Biblical Truth here.


1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
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Angela53510

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I can't speak for anyone but my husband. He got saved in his late teens, and he has never been tempted by other women. I trust him totally.

Your boyfriend is setting you up for a fall. In addition, my father was not a Christian until just before he died, and I am totally certain he never failed to honour in body and mind his marriage vows. (This from talks growing up, and before he died)

"Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." Phil. 4:8

Tell your boyfriend that God can help him through whatever temptation he is facing, and to stop rationalizing it. ALL men do not fail. They may have other areas they need to work on, just like women, but they are not all tempted into sexual sin. What a ridiculous sweeping generalization!
 
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Lily777

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I would have to disagree with that. That can't even be proven. There are plenty of men who are capable of doing the right thing in that situation and one that is truly following God can most definitely resist something like that.

We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us and he will not let us be tempted beyond what we can bear. :)
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Those two verses also spoke volumes. Thank you and God bless you and yours :)
 
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Lily777

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Angela53510 said:
I can't speak for anyone but my husband. He got saved in his late teens, and he has never been tempted by other women. I trust him totally.

Your boyfriend is setting you up for a fall. In addition, my father was not a Christian until just before he died, and I am totally certain he never failed to honour in body and mind his marriage vows. (This from talks growing up, and before he died)

"Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." Phil. 4:8

Tell your boyfriend that God can help him through whatever temptation he is facing, and to stop rationalizing it. ALL men do not fail. They may have other areas they need to work on, just like women, but they are not all tempted into sexual sin. What a ridiculous sweeping generalization!
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Yeah that's where I was at. Not ALL men fail in that area, it could be other areas like you are saying and of course women alike. Thank you. :) God bless you and yours :)
 
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Tintin

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Lily777 said:
Please help, anyone.

My b/f and I were discussing sexual sin.

He told me that EVERY single man who would be seduced by a woman would fall if he did not "turn away".
Or in other words, that EVERY single man, if a woman seduced or came unto him (lf like if she was undressing in front of him and coming onto him), would not be able to turn away from her, "if he did not "go away" from her.

He even told me to call Dr. Charles Stanley and he would admit the same. (I doubt I would get through to Stanley, so I can't really ask him)


Is this true?

Please anyone.
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Yes. I just surveyed every single man in the world and the results are conclusive.
 
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Lily777

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LOL needed a laugh, rofl.. thank you :) :D
 
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ray_james

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Joseph in the Bible was confronted by Potiphar's wife, his reaction:
Genesis 39:12 - "And she caught him by his garment, saying, Lie with me: and he left his garment in her hand, and fled, and got him out."
Committing any sort of sin is a choice. Whether it is committing adultery or lying. You cannot rightly say that "every man would fall", because that is just not true.
I believe a daily walk with the Lord is critical to anyone who expects to overcome temptation.
 
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Lily777

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Thank you also so much :)
 
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shotgunner

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Depends on what she looks like. LOL



Seriously, that is ridiculous. I've not ever had women throwing their clothes at me but I have ignored some very blatant suggestions. The thing a Christian man does is to never place himself in a situation where he can fail. I don't hang out alone with other women.
 
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Lily777

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Thank you : ) Gbu
 
Dino246

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I'm curious what your b/f is trying to say through pressing this opinion. My gut feeling, something is off-kilter in his world, and it might be wise for him to talk to a pastor or counselor. I'm not trying to accuse him of anything though, just saying that the root of this issue should be examined carefully. I respect that you are seeking input here, wanting a scriptural answer. :)
 
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tenderhearted

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Your boyfriend's views should ring caution to you. You really should be prayerful about this relationship. You're dating a man who is giving you the signs that he cannot be trusted. I don't know if you have plans to marry him, but he's basically admitting that if he was in a situation like this, he would fall. You may want to save yourself the grief and back off. Don't brush off these conversations-- take it seriously. You are getting a glimpse of what your future would be like. You deserve someone who wants to honor you in everyway. If he isn't able to do that, they're plenty of men who can. :)
 
Shawn2516

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Typical of christians. When someone's view doesn't meet their own, they immediately go into male bashing and "need the lord" prayers. Perhaps her boyfriend is wrong in his perspective (and I believe he is), but one shouldn't jump to conclusions that he is evil and is trying to trap his own GF to get laid by other girls.

I find it amazing that men on the one hand, would tell christian girls over and over to cover up because they just don't understand the temptation it puts on us men, and on the other, ridicule this guy to death because he said the obvious. I would say 50/50 out of guys offered would take it.

Christian women are getting cheated on by christian men. Christian men are getting cheated on right now by christian women.

You can say all the "its full of crap" all you want, but reality does not reflect this. As you type how absurd it is that someone would even consider doing it, someone has a box of tissue paper's crying their eyes out. I don't know whats wrong with Christians being so good and excelling at burying their heads into the sand.
 
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popeye

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If you will notice all the new Christian movies depict the man as a spiritual train wreck with the near perfect wife struggling to deal with her hypocrite husband.

This spawns the weakling male viewpoint.
IOW, without the rescue of the powerful dynamic women all the male zeros are destined to be mired in their selfish apathy.
 
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atwhatcost

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Ever consider contacting Dr. Stanley?
 
maxwel

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Mitspa said:
No not all women are that attractive ... but generally its could be true
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Alright, it may not be politically correct, but this was really funny.
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Donkeyfish07

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maxwel said:
Alright, it may not be politically correct, but this was really funny.
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Ha ha, its true though, i could resist Jabba the Hutt any day of the week.....but if a Katherine Heigel-ish looking woman wanted to tempt me.....my only chance of escaping her clutches is the first 60 seconds. No thank you and walk away without looking back. Beyond that strategy, there is absolutely no escape.
 
Shawn2516

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popeye said:
If you will notice all the new Christian movies depict the man as a spiritual train wreck with the near perfect wife struggling to deal with her hypocrite husband.

This spawns the weakling male viewpoint.
IOW, without the rescue of the powerful dynamic women all the male zeros are destined to be mired in their selfish apathy.
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I've noticed this too. Now days, most of all the leaders in movies are women, while the men are her servants to order around as she pleases. I'm not surprised by this. God knows its him, man, woman, children, and animals. Then Satan comes along and reverses this order, making it animals, children, women, man, and lastly God.

If a child is reported to be killed people would think another day another dollar, but if a animal gets hurt, people actually start mobilizing. Its amazing that human beings have pretty much lost touch with how valuable other human beings are, but I digress. I think the reason why is as Jesus Christ said, in the last days sin shall abound, and because of it, the love of many shall grow cold.
 
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shotgunner

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Shawn2516 said:
I've noticed this too. Now days, most of all the leaders in movies are women, while the men are her servants to order around as she pleases. I'm not surprised by this. God knows its him, man, woman, children, and animals. Then Satan comes along and reverses this order, making it animals, children, women, man, and lastly God.

If a child is reported to be killed people would think another day another dollar, but if a animal gets hurt, people actually start mobilizing. Its amazing that human beings have pretty much lost touch with how valuable other human beings are, but I digress. I think the reason why is as Jesus Christ said, in the last days sin shall abound, and because of it, the love of many shall grow cold.
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I'm not quite that cynical. I still see much good and beauty in the world. It's easy to see if you look for it and don't let the media frame your entire view.
 
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