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Well as I said liberal seems to lean to one set of morals and conservative to another.But a blanket statement cant be made because politically I believe the liberal party has been taken over by far left crazies. For instance a former governor of my state is a friend of my family.Sweetest most sincere person,along with his wife,you'd ever meet. Serve food and clean in the church kitchen during pot lucks,had groups of people from the church to their home for special events,you could not find better Christians anywhere. So blanket statements cant be made.
Be careful about projecting your own values on God, as the bible is silent on the subject of abortion.
The bible also condemns taking pleasure in someone else's fall:
[h=1]Proverbs 24:17New International Version (NIV)[/h][h=4]17 Do not gloat when your enemy falls;[/h] when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice,
The bible also condemns taking pleasure in someone else's fall:
[h=1]Proverbs 24:17New International Version (NIV)[/h][h=4]17 Do not gloat when your enemy falls;[/h] when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice,
M
Do you believe the rest of the New Testament ..where we see how that scripture is placed into action by the apostles? Do you believe the scripture that tell us not to have fellowship with darkness but rather reprove it? I mean our faith is not based on this one passage of scripture and that passage taken out of context and put into a liberal agenda can become a excuse for evil.
K
Well I dont know the circles you travel in,Im not going to doubt your word.Ive mentioned before that I spent 20yrs in ministry and I have in hundreds of churches. I have not found people reveling in sinners dying. Ive found people at alters
tears streaming down their faces as they pray for their lost loved one then put a hand on the person next to them and pray for that persons loved one.Each lost person has family and often that family is praying for them to come to the Lord. People have dedicated their lives to reach the lost,to be missionaries,pastors etc. Every time a lost person came to the Lord during our concerts,every time,the people of the church cried with joy and prayed with the person and after the service and welcomed them to "the family". So this idea that you and Willie are talking about is foreign to me. Just honestly saying this has been my experience in 20 yrs of ministry.
M
I dont think you would understand the truth about Gods Justice ..if she explained it to you..so whats the point in the foolish and unlearned questions when those asking are not even able to understand the answer? you question as if your some kind of spiritual judge ..when all I have ever seen of your biblical understanding is childish at best.
K
The Bible doesnt use the word abortion but the idea is there.
Ex. 21- “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[a] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life
I've been in churches all my life, and I've been around a lot of people who are very angry at a lot of other people, eagerly "awaiting for the day" when God strikes back at them and brings them justice, as they see it.
A lot of those were people in the ministry who are angry that someone spoke against their ministry or got in their way from something they wanted (like a bigger church so that they could build a name for themselves, etc.)
I'm not saying those things are wrong, or that you or the people you've been around are wrong.
I'm just saying that I've seen a lot of people in church 24/7 who think ANYONE who disagrees with them over ANYTHING is their enemy--and that this makes them God's enemies by default--and they are pretty much jumping up and down with glee for the day when said enemies are destroyed.
I can fully admit that there are times I've BEEN that person towards those whom I felt were abusive or took advantage of people.
I'm trying to work on it though, which is probably why such comments stand out to me.
A lot of those were people in the ministry who are angry that someone spoke against their ministry or got in their way from something they wanted (like a bigger church so that they could build a name for themselves, etc.)
I'm not saying those things are wrong, or that you or the people you've been around are wrong.
I'm just saying that I've seen a lot of people in church 24/7 who think ANYONE who disagrees with them over ANYTHING is their enemy--and that this makes them God's enemies by default--and they are pretty much jumping up and down with glee for the day when said enemies are destroyed.
I can fully admit that there are times I've BEEN that person towards those whom I felt were abusive or took advantage of people.
I'm trying to work on it though, which is probably why such comments stand out to me.
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