Show me the scriptures in the New Testament that talk about "sacramentalism". It is obviously a corruption of the word οἱ ἅγιοι, hagios, in the Greek, which means "holy" as an adjective, and "saints" as a plural noun. No such word or evidence of any kinds of sacraments in the Bible.
40. Protestants' excessive mistrust of the flesh ("carnality") often leads to (in evangelicalism or fundamentalism) an absurd legalism (no dancing, drinking, card-playing, rock music, etc.).
I gave up drinking because I was an alcoholic, and God told me too. I don't like legalism either. But if the Protestant church is going to be charged with legalisms, the RCC with its rites and rituals, and not knowing if you are saved till after you die, and people have BOUGHT masses to get you out of purgatory, is the worst kind of legalism!
I gave up drinking because I was an alcoholic, and God told me too. I don't like legalism either. But if the Protestant church is going to be charged with legalisms, the RCC with its rites and rituals, and not knowing if you are saved till after you die, and people have BOUGHT masses to get you out of purgatory, is the worst kind of legalism!
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Many Protestants have denied infant baptism, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Acts 2:38-39; Acts 16:15; Acts 16:33; Acts 18:8; 1 Cor 1:16; Col 2:11-12). Protestantism is divided into five major camps on the question of baptism.
Just offhand, Acts 16:15 doesn't mean that the jailer had a baby baptized. We have no idea who his "household" was.
Just offhand, Acts 16:15 doesn't mean that the jailer had a baby baptized. We have no idea who his "household" was.
The rest of these verses are about children coming to faith, if we teach them and show them God in our lives. All the Acts Scriptures are about what happened at the birth of the church, not the rules governing baptism.
So there were no rules? If not, that might explain the anarchy Protestantism finds itself regarding baptism.
Acts 2:38 has to be taken in context of Acts 2:38.
"And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Acts 2:38
This very clearly says that you have to repent and then you will be baptized.
"And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Acts 2:38
This very clearly says that you have to repent and then you will be baptized.
A baby or child does not have the capacity to repent!! So the promise to your "children" in Acts 2:39 does not mean "infant baptism," but rather to their offspring, who will grow up with the promise that they, too, can know Christ, repent and be baptized.
Acts 2:38 - Peter says to the multitude, "Repent and be baptized.." Protestants use this verse to prove one must be a believer (not an infant) to be baptized. But the Greek translation literally says, "If you repent, then each one who is a part of you and yours must each be baptized” (“Metanoesate kai bapistheto hekastos hymon.”) This, contrary to what Protestants argue, actually proves that babies are baptized based on their parents’ faith. This is confirmed in the next verse.
Acts 2:39 - Peter then says baptism is specifically given to children as well as adults. “Those far off” refers to those who were at their “homes” (primarily infants and children). God's covenant family includes children. The word "children" that Peter used comes from the Greek word "teknon" which also includes infants.
Luke 1:59 - this proves that "teknon" includes infants. Here, John as a "teknon" (infant) was circumcised. See also Acts 21:21 which uses “teknon” for eight-day old babies. So baptism is for infants as well as adults.
Acts 10:47-48 - Peter baptized the entire house of Cornelius, which generally included infants and young children. There is not one word in Scripture about baptism being limited to adults.
Have you abandoned the doctrine of Original Sin? Both actual and original sin are removed as an adult at baptism. Original Sin was not acquired by informed consent, therefore it can be removed without informed consent, as with babies.
49. The great majority of Protestants deny baptismal regeneration, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Rom 6:3-4; 1 Cor 6:11; Titus 3:5).
Oh, so sad they way this copy and paste twists Scripture, over and over. Let's look at Romans 4.
"By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life." Romans 6:2-4
In context,
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This is not something again, that an infant or young child can understand.
Oh, so sad they way this copy and paste twists Scripture, over and over. Let's look at Romans 4.
"By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life." Romans 6:2-4
In context,
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This is not something again, that an infant or young child can understand.
At least the Eastern Orthodox Church insists of full immersion in its baptism ritual. I was baptized Orthodox when I was 19. I did it for my grandmother, but it did not save me. Believing in Jesus did save me!
that Jesus is not there?
50. Protestants have rejected the sacrament of anointing of the sick (Extreme Unction / "Last Rites"), contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Mk 6:13; 1 Cor 12:9, 1 Cor 12:30; Jas 5:14-15).
Not a sacrament, but again, wrong information about Protestant Churches. I have been in churches from Pentecostal to Baptist and they all use anointing with oil, and pray for the sick, as per James 5:14-16. I would advice you to screen this stuff, because it, and maybe you, know nothing about the practises of Protestant churches.
Not a sacrament, but again, wrong information about Protestant Churches. I have been in churches from Pentecostal to Baptist and they all use anointing with oil, and pray for the sick, as per James 5:14-16. I would advice you to screen this stuff, because it, and maybe you, know nothing about the practises of Protestant churches.
51. Protestantism denies the indissolubility of sacramental marriage and allows divorce, contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Gen 2:24; Mal 2:14-16; Mt 5:32; Mat 19:6, Mat 19:9; Mk 10:11-12; Lk 16:18; Rom 7:2-3; 1 Cor 7:10-14; 1 Cor 7:39).
My same RCC friend above, who claimed to be a Christian, but was horribly immoral, was married to an alcoholic, abusive man. They had 5 children together. When she talked to her priest about divorce, they said it was not possible. However, they did say she could get an annulment. After all those years of marriage and 5 children! Talk about loopholes in the "indissolublity " of marriage.
My same RCC friend above, who claimed to be a Christian, but was horribly immoral, was married to an alcoholic, abusive man. They had 5 children together. When she talked to her priest about divorce, they said it was not possible. However, they did say she could get an annulment. After all those years of marriage and 5 children! Talk about loopholes in the "indissolublity " of marriage.
52. Protestantism doesn't believe procreation to be the primary purpose and benefit of marriage (it isn't part of the vows, as in Catholic matrimony), contrary to Christian Tradition and the Bible (Gen 1:28; Gen 28:3, Ps 107:38; Ps 127:3-5).
Well, I could care less about "tradition" but leaning on Genesis and Psalms, with NO New Testament verses tells me something wrong there. Of course, there is the simple fact that there was no birth control available in those days, but we have it today. Oops, that is the next wrong point! I think the purpose of marriage is ultimately to glorify God since he tells us he made us for his glory.
"everyone who is called by my name
whom I created for my glory,
whom I formed and made.” Is a. 43:7
Marriage is a covenant union of a man and a woman for the purpose of committing to each other in companionship, provision of good and shelter, sexual privileges, children and protection.
[/QUOTE] Genosis 1: "Be fruitful, and multiply, except when it is inconvenient." Children potentially glorify God for an eternity, plus their offspring. That's a lot of glorifying, and much of it God won't see. What will He do about it? Contraception and abortion are evils of the same root.
53. Protestantism sanctions contraception, in defiance of universal Christian Tradition (Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant) up until 1930 - when the Anglicans first allowed it - and the Bible (Gen 38:8-10; Gen 41:52; Ex 23:25-26; Lev 26:9; Deut 7:14; Ruth 4:13; Lk 1:24-25). Now, only Catholicism retains the ancient Tradition against the "anti-child" mentality.
This is kind of funny! I don't know of any BIG catholic families these days. Except maybe the Irish. I do know of several huge families, and have it on good authority that contraception was not used. That includes my MIL's Baptist family of 10. To say nothing of the Duggars! LOL
This is kind of funny! I don't know of any BIG catholic families these days. Except maybe the Irish. I do know of several huge families, and have it on good authority that contraception was not used. That includes my MIL's Baptist family of 10. To say nothing of the Duggars! LOL
We won't even get into all the child abuse going on in parishes everywhere, including moving the priest instead of reporting him to the police. That is as "anti-child" as you can get! My husband grew up in a small town in BC. Everyone knew the priest was abusing the altar boys, but no one in the church did anything about it, and the complaints just got him sent up north in BC, where he continued to abuse until a group of men in that town got together almost 25 years later, and reported him to the police. I once googled all the places in Canada where the priest was proven to abuse the boys sexually, and the list was HUGE! That includes the horrors of the Mt. Cashel orphanage in Newfoundland.
http://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/politics/wells-government-mount-cashel-timeline.php
http://youtu.be/nr6aJd4Kz_4
Really, child abuse is the biggest reason that the entire hierarchical RCC should be torn down. I'm not saying that there are not offenders in leadership in Protestant Churches, I know a woman from an extremely fundamentalist Protestant Churh who was sexually abused, but it was not hidden by a higher up leadership, because there was no higher up leadership. The entire RCC is a hiding place for pedophiles, under the guise of being holy and special, while the altar boys and orphans get sexually and physically abused.
Cased closed on this point!
http://youtu.be/nr6aJd4Kz_4
Really, child abuse is the biggest reason that the entire hierarchical RCC should be torn down. I'm not saying that there are not offenders in leadership in Protestant Churches, I know a woman from an extremely fundamentalist Protestant Churh who was sexually abused, but it was not hidden by a higher up leadership, because there was no higher up leadership. The entire RCC is a hiding place for pedophiles, under the guise of being holy and special, while the altar boys and orphans get sexually and physically abused.
Cased closed on this point!
We know from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice investigation into this matter that almost all of the cases of the sexual abuse of minors that took place in Catholic institutions occurred between 1965 and 1985. By contrast, in the last five years, the average number of credible accusations made against 40,000 priests is exactly 7.6. Quite frankly, there is no entity in the United States today, private or public, that can match this record..
I'm willing to do the research and do a sex scandal comparison with Protestant and Catholic clergy IN THE LAST 5 YEARS. But I won't enjoy it, even though I'm confident that Protestant clergy CANNOT MATCH THE CATHOLIC RECORD.
The Catholic Church's record of aggressive and proactive protective measures is unparalleled in any organization today. Since the beginning of the abuse crisis, the Catholic Church:
- has instituted a "zero tolerance" policy in which any credibly accused priest is immediately removed from ministry. Law enforcement is also notified;
- has trained over 5 million children in giving them skills to protect them from abuse;
- has trained over 2 million adults, including 99 percent of all priests, in recognizing signs of abuse;
- has conducted over 2 million background checks, including those in the intensified screening process for aspiring seminarians and priests;
- has installed "Victim Assistance Coordinators" in every diocese, "assuring victims that they will be heard";
- has conducted annual independent audits of all dioceses to monitor compliance with the groundbreaking 2002 Charter for Protection of Children and Young People;
- has instituted in all dioceses abuse review boards – often composed of child welfare experts, child psychologists, and abuse experts – to examine any claims of abuse against priests.
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