If the Titanic Were Sinking Today, Who Should Have First Access to the Lifeboats?

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In an Emergency Situation, People Should be Saved in This Order:

  • 1. Children; 2. Women; 3. Men. (For all votes, please state your thoughts as to why in your post.)

    Votes: 10 43.5%

  • 1. Children; 2. Men; 3. Women

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 1. Children; 2. Women OR Men (each gender should have an equal right to be saved.)

    Votes: 4 17.4%

  • 1. Women; 2. Children; 3. Men.

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • 1. Men OR Women (equal rights); 2. Children.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other--I have another opinion I would like to share in my post.

    Votes: 10 43.5%
  • Total voters
    23
Dino246

Dino246

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Who should have first access? The people closest to the lifeboats. Provided that there are enough, and that there aren't passengers prevented from access as there were in the 1997 movie. Of course, the crew should help the passengers, and not simply jump in first. After that, I think it is up to each passenger to decide for themselves whether to go or to leave place for another. Again referencing the '97 movie and the real tragedy, no place in a lifeboat should go unused.

Yes, the selfish and self-important will be saved... temporarily. But there is judgment coming, and no lifeboats out of that.
 
Born_Again

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We're all gonna drown, but I got a helmet. :D
 
violakat

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In general, I would say children first, especially the youngest, as they would have a less likely chance of surviving. And then 2nd would be what adult who would not survive, such as a paraplegic/quadriplegic, someone who is on crutches or missing an a limb, etc. Then either or.
 
Nautilus

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I'm 6'3'' 200+ lbs. im getting on a boat whether you like it or not
 
AsifinPassing

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Leo should get first seat in the lifeboats. I really felt like he was greatly mistreated.

 
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NukePooch

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#46
Well, it should be women, children, and the disabled first.

But, in today's society?





 
Grace-Like-Rain

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AsifinPassing said:
Leo should get first seat in the lifeboats. I really felt like he was greatly mistreated.

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It's not like they didn't have two hours to construct their own boat out of doors, life preservers and bed sheets.


(Talking about Jack and Rose here... I'm sure the actual passengers didn't realize they wouldn't have a place in the boats until too late. So senseless and tragic.)
 
Roh_Chris

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"Did you say there is place on the lifeboat for me?"

"Hold on for a minute, I have to update my FB status and tweet about this." :p
 
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wwjd_kilden

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the thing is, what messed up the Titanic even was failure of planning / organization / leadership, . If a ship has enough lifeboats, good routines and people do as told, it shouldn't matter who goes first because all should get a place in a boat
 
Oncefallen

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wwjd_kilden said:
the thing is, what messed up the Titanic even was failure of planning / organization / leadership, . If a ship has enough lifeboats, good routines and people do as told, it shouldn't matter who goes first because all should get a place in a boat
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This was a major problem with the Titanic.....lifeboats for less than half the occupants. It's builders and designers were so certain that they had build a ship that was unsinkable that they felt the extra lifeboats would clutter the deck too much.
 
Roh_Chris

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Oncefallen said:

This was a major problem with the Titanic.....lifeboats for less than half the occupants. It's builders and designers were so certain that they had build a ship that was unsinkable that they felt the extra lifeboats would clutter the deck too much.
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And add to the ship's deadweight tonnage.
 
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Stone5524

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For best results I would fill them first with air
 
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HonestlyHumbled

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1. Women and Children
2. Men

Why?
Because men are physically stronger than women and children. The children need to be cared for.
 
Oncefallen

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blue_ladybug said:
I'm fairly sure they WERE already filled with air before the Titanic even left on it's voyage.. :confused:
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Modern ships predominantly us self inflating rubber life rafts since they take up very little space prior to being inflated. In the days of the Titanic life boats were basically over sized wood row boats.
 
p_rehbein

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The Order of this is well established in Naval Law is it not?

Women and children, Elderly, Injured, Sick [all these being equal], Men, Crew, Captain as I recall..........could be wrong
 
seoulsearch

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p_rehbein said:
The Order of this is well established in Naval Law is it not?

Women and children, Elderly, Injured, Sick [all these being equal], Men, Crew, Captain as I recall..........could be wrong
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The heart and feeling behind this thread isn't actually about the Titanic at all, but rather, how men are valued--or undervalued--in our society.

The Titanic happened to be a very striking example, which is why the title is centered around it, but the actual issue doesn't have anything to do with the Titanic or Naval Law.

I don't always succeed but I almost always write threads in a way that the original post must be read in order to fully understand the meaning of the thread's title.

(I'm glad you posted this though, as I find this law to be interesting... and have wondered how it came to be established in the first place.)
 
zeroturbulence

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On the Costa Concordia, the captain was one of the first ones on a lifeboat...

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C

crosstweed

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I once read the biography of a man by the name of Rev. John Harper.

It was a short but powerful book ("the Titanic's Last Hero", or something to that effect). I wept like a baby and prayed God would make me that sacrificial in spirit. I just now looked him up on the Titanic's passenger list. The web page doesn't have a lot of information about him personally, but the biography I read consisted of some of his own words, eulogies and letters written about him after his death, and what happened that night on the Titanic, and what he did, according to passengers who survived, including his niece and his little daughter. He without hesitation put her and his niece on the life boat and remained on the ship - knowing he was sending his child away an orphan (her mother had died a few years prior in childbirth). So what did this deeply devoted Christian man who was totally sold out for God have to say about who should be on the life boats?

"Get the women, children, and the unsaved into the lifeboats!"
He could have made use of the opportunity to get on the lifeboat... after all, who was going to take care of his child? But instead, those who were were picked up later by rescue ship said that he gave away his life jacket to someone who wasn't saved... and spent his last minutes pleading with people to accept Christ.

I think the unsaved and the children should be the first ones on the life boats. And I'm not sexist, but I think the women should be next after them, and here's why: men are supposed to protect and provide for women. That is the role that God has given him. If I were a man, I would take the same position. There's an unselfishness about it that is nonexistent in cultures that haven't been touched by Christ. I mean, can you visualize a ship full of Muslims going down and them putting the women and kids on the boat first? Their oldest sons, maybe... "Sorry Fatima... You've always been my favorite, but..."

It's one thing if a woman volunteers to stay in order that someone else can go, but for some reason, any other arrangement feels... cowardly.

I'd rather have my last testimony be ====> this. <====== God help us all.
 
garet82

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Myself. Coz i cant swim. Last time i just got back from other island n hd to use ship to got back. Even i only be there for three hours i got unconfortable with the ship. It was night n i walked outside to got fresh air, i saw all dark. I remembered titanic ship n it made me unconfortable thingking if the ship accidently sunk n i became fish food lol
Silly me :D lol
 
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