Is medication sin

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Meds are only to be use temporary, by giving a person time to build up their trust in God. Penicillin actually occur from nature, but the others that doesn't goes through an naturally occurring process, should not be taken at all, because it will have some type of ill effects on that person.
Not taking meds that are necessary can have ill effects also, like death for instance.
 
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It sound as if you has a major clot floating around in your brain. You have to start eating organic to help to prevent this clot from growing bigger or spreading, and to start eating with your organic foods, soy sauce that is a good source for nattokinase which that help to break up clots. And no smoking cigarettes or anything else of that nature. The reason why you are feeling fatigue a lot, it is because the brain has accumulated a lot of toxins that is causing the drowsiness that the brain has to much toxins that it is hard for it to filter it all out while you are asleep; and by you putting more into your body isn't helping out as well.


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Should I lodge a complaint with the AMA? Because obviously you think you're a doctor capable of diagnosing online, and doctors will get their licences revoked for just such silliness.

(Is anyone else reporting the advertiser?)
 
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#64
The original post suggests they are not putting their faith in
anything or anyone. Pot luck is a very unhealthy lifestyle.
Now just a hootin' tootin' minute thare. Have you ever gone to a church potluck? They're delicious, and 90% of the food is good for you. (And, no, that's not my accent. That's my best Yosemite Sam impression.
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What I meant is, they don't trust medicine and they don't follow the true saviour
who bore their sins in his body on the tree, who then rose again that we might
be born again and become spiritually alive. They don't have an intimate true
relationship with the saviour of the world.
the only thing mentioned was praying when sick (faith in the Lord over man made meds) and blood mixing. all these other things you posted were never mentioned and have nothing to do with what we are talking about.
is putting your faith in the Lord over faith in medicine right or wrong?
if someone refuses to mix their blood should we criticize them?
 
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Does everyone here realize that our ancestors used medications freely. I am referring to our spiritual ancestors. Three of the earliest topical medications, natural meds, were wine, salt and oil.

I put olive oil on certain types of skin problems, a wound, or whatever seems in need of it. Wine and salt are good also. These are mentioned in the Word God has spoken to us through His designated children who lived as His prophets.
Frankincense and myrrh were used for various health problems too. That's why the Israelites had plenty for their stay in the wilderness to use on the altar too.
 
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planitsoon

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In the West we have replaced God, with our own "gods" so to speak:

YAHWEH-JIREH: "The Lord Will Provide". A lot of us have replaced Him with the banks

YAHWEH-RAPHA: "The Lord Who Heals. A lot of us have replaced Him with doctors

YAHWEH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace". A lot of people have replaced him with their shrink.

etc etc

That's why we find God much more at work in the poor countries, through Christians, that don't have a bank, a doctor or a shrink on every corner as some have to walk four days to get anywhere. These Christians have faith, well, to be honest, they need to have faith or they miss out and things are often a matter or life or death there.

So God rewards their faith and that most miracles happen there we all know and that is because of their faith. We can learn from that a lot and admire that and grow and try to step out ourselves in standing on His Word and trusting what he says as He is no Man that can lie.

There is no condemnation though for those in Christ Jesus, so even if you feel the need to take petro chemicals meds or non toxic meds that God gave us through nature, don't take it as rebuke but rather as an encouragement, just like when Jesus said to His disciples that they could not heal the boy because of their lack of faith in Matthew 17:20

If we are honest we should acknowledge that the Western church as a whole ia far from the church in the New Testament these days. We only see here and there in the West churches that experience Acts in their midst. But I believe it is growing and the earth is groaining and waiting for the appearance of the sons of God it says. The Kingdom of heaven suffers violence and violent men take it by force. Let's expand His Kingdom and do His will on earth! It has never grown that fast as today as He promsed in Daniel 2, the rock that crushed the statue would grow out into a big mountain, the reign would be on His shoulders and His Kingdom is an ever increasing Kingdom :) It came 2000 years ago.

Mathew 16:28 "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

We are sons of God, co-heirs with Christ, the light of this world, one in spirit with Him, ambassadors, kings and priest, seated in heavenly places with Him!
 
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Angela53510

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Well, if you get on an 100% organic kosher diet and drink the cleanest water, then you will not need any meds to help you to get out of the bed anymore. What God has created, it is good enough.


https://youtu.be/jtj8RZkAzy8?list=PLy9QJX2oahL4VD42kcdQYPvl422oC2OPs
What makes you think I have not? In fact, I became a vegetarian at age 17, and I started growing all my own organic food at age 20. I live in the mountains of BC, and I drink clear mountain water. I have never smoked, and in fact, I have crusaded against smoking in public places. I do use vitamin and mineral supplements, because my body does not digest food well. So I don't get infections, which most people who are on biologics get. I ground my own grain and baked all my own breads, created all my foods from scratch. I also did gluten free and vegan, long before they became the popular fad they are today. But despite living a very clean lifestyle, and never eating junk food or sugar, I still got RA. Because RA is a genetic illness, and the cure does not lie in lifestyle changes. However, I do believe that people need to eat better, exercise more and live for God.

But once an auto-immune disease gene is turned on, there is no way to turn it off. Scientists are working on that as a "cure" for auto-immune diseases. But who knows how long that will take? God did not create RA. It is a result of the Fall. Sin and death came into the world, when Adam and Eve fell in the Garden of Eden. Man and woman were created perfectly. But because of various environmental factors which came into play after the fall, the genetic load is increasing everywhere. Genes have become mutate, and auto-immune diseases are just part of that. Fortunately, Jesus is going to be returning before things get so bad that no one can survive in this fallen, sin stained and damaged world.

I am grateful that God has used my sickness to develop my character in him. Suffering does create character.

"More than that, we rejoice in our suffering, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured out by the Holy Spirit who was given to us." Romans 5:3-5

God is in control, and the answer to the Question asked in the OP title - no, it is not a sin to take medication, whether for mental or physical illnesses.
 
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Well, if you get on an 100% organic kosher diet and drink the cleanest water, then you will not need any meds to help you to get out of the bed anymore. What God has created, it is good enough.


https://youtu.be/jtj8RZkAzy8?list=PLy9QJX2oahL4VD42kcdQYPvl422oC2OPs
Well, thanks for your professional, medical opinion there Doctor. Oh wait, you're not a doctor? Oh pardon me. In that case I'll follow the advice of my primary health care professional since he's graduated college with a BS in molecular biology, then went to medical school and completed residency to become an MD and has been in practice for 15 years. However, thanks for your opinion and an obscure YouTube video. Thumbs up for you!
 
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lol, wacko Christians are often Christians that have at least have faith or try to trust in Gods Word and don't suffer from intellectual anemia like many in this world and the church that just follow the herd mindlessly and open their mouth for anything that's being fed from main stream media without testing. The majority is seldom right and that is one of the reasons that God always talks about a remnant and that road is wide that leads to destruction :) Knowledge is power. Enjoy these brave whistle blowers of Big Pharma that could not keep deceiving others and stood up for truth!

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ex+pharmaceutal+reps+speak+out++big+pharma

Better go for traditional medicine, that what God gave us through nature. Petro chemicals didn't exist until early 1900. In the words of Bono from U2 ones said, "Anything that humans touch, turn to crap!" :)
That first paragraph described you perfectly. My very problem with you, except your herd is the conspiracy theory herd.
 
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Should I lodge a complaint with the AMA? Because obviously you think you're a doctor capable of diagnosing online, and doctors will get their licences revoked for just such silliness.

(Is anyone else reporting the advertiser?)
Will they will tell you the same that most headches are due to clots in the brain. We has plaque that build up in the brain from where this plaque comes from? they cannot say.


[h=1]Severe Headache May Signal Clot In Brain Vein[/h]Date:February 19, 2001Source:American Heart AssociationSummary:A severe headache can indicate a stroke, but it could signal a lot of other things too. Research presented at the American Stroke Association’s 26th International Stroke Conference may help doctors tell the difference between a headache or migrane and a rare stroke called cerebral venous thrombosis (CVT). https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/02/010215075144.htm


[h=1]Nattokinase: The Japanese Clot-Busting Miracle Nattokinase: The Japanese Clot-Busting Miracle[/h]

It is known that all of these ill affects is coming from all of this unnatural stuff that we are eating. If you put something that doesn't occurs naturally in nature shouldn't be put into our bodies. I watch on Dr.Oz about a woman that had buttock enhancement, that has been done illegally; but it almost had killed her. You cannot expect that something that even nature doesn't recognizes, that it will not have any abnormal effects on the body, of course it will cause harm. I know that there are many corporation's sponsors that are on discussion websites to keep people from knowing about the effects that their products causes. But no matter what, the truth will always will be revealed..


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Well, thanks for your professional, medical opinion there Doctor. Oh wait, you're not a doctor? Oh pardon me. In that case I'll follow the advice of my primary health care professional since he's graduated college with a BS in molecular biology, then went to medical school and completed residency to become an MD and has been in practice for 15 years. However, thanks for your opinion and an obscure YouTube video. Thumbs up for you!
Well, it seem as if you need another doctor, because your health is not improving. You are talking to someone that is a lot older than you that doesn't has no ill effects at all. Jogs for miles and doesn't get tired, and not a single wrinkle or blemish spot on my body. I believe and trust in God whole-heartedly.

[video]https://youtu.be/mCBHjJ3SsN4[/video]
 
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Well, it seem as if you need another doctor, because your health is not improving. You are talking to someone that is a lot older than you that doesn't has no ill effects at all. Jogs for miles and doesn't get tired, and not a single wrinkle or blemish spot on my body. I believe and trust in God whole-heartedly.

[video]https://youtu.be/mCBHjJ3SsN4[/video]
Umm...good for you? *golf clap*
 
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What makes you think I have not? In fact, I became a vegetarian at age 17, and I started growing all my own organic food at age 20. I live in the mountains of BC, and I drink clear mountain water. I have never smoked, and in fact, I have crusaded against smoking in public places. I do use vitamin and mineral supplements, because my body does not digest food well. So I don't get infections, which most people who are on biologics get. I ground my own grain and baked all my own breads, created all my foods from scratch. I also did gluten free and vegan, long before they became the popular fad they are today. But despite living a very clean lifestyle, and never eating junk food or sugar, I still got RA. Because RA is a genetic illness, and the cure does not lie in lifestyle changes. However, I do believe that people need to eat better, exercise more and live for God.

But once an auto-immune disease gene is turned on, there is no way to turn it off. Scientists are working on that as a "cure" for auto-immune diseases. But who knows how long that will take? God did not create RA. It is a result of the Fall. Sin and death came into the world, when Adam and Eve fell in the Garden of Eden. Man and woman were created perfectly. But because of various environmental factors which came into play after the fall, the genetic load is increasing everywhere. Genes have become mutate, and auto-immune diseases are just part of that. Fortunately, Jesus is going to be returning before things get so bad that no one can survive in this fallen, sin stained and damaged world.

I am grateful that God has used my sickness to develop my character in him. Suffering does create character.

"More than that, we rejoice in our suffering, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured out by the Holy Spirit who was given to us." Romans 5:3-5

God is in control, and the answer to the Question asked in the OP title - no, it is not a sin to take medication, whether for mental or physical illnesses.

Here's someone that know the brain... Fast forward 54 minutes into this video and she will explain about certain meds.

[video]https://youtu.be/nrSqYqWnjBs[/video]

There's a lot of people that is on this site that aren't whom they says that they are, but if they keep the deception going, then they will have more problems in their life.
 
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Here's someone that know the brain... Fast forward 54 minutes into this video and she will explain about certain meds.

[video]https://youtu.be/nrSqYqWnjBs[/video]

There's a lot of people that is on this site that aren't whom they says that they are, but if they keep the deception going, then they will have more problems in their life.


Keep on preaching from that stump. How's it working out for you?
 
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Umm...good for you? *golf clap*
All of my life I always tries to encourage people to eat healthy and exercise, but people always choose to listen to the devil because the devil doesn't want no one to be in great health. People choose to put themselves in these situations, God always tries to lure us away, but we doesn't listen to Him; and so He let us dwell in our own misery that we has chosen to follow to learn from our mistakes.
 
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All of my life I always tries to encourage people to eat healthy and exercise, but people always choose to listen to the devil because the devil doesn't want no one to be in great health. People choose to put themselves in these situations, God always tries to lure us away, but we doesn't listen to Him; and so He let us dwell in our own misery that we has chosen to follow to learn from our mistakes.
Whatever you say. Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for me to take my Satanic medications and draw a sigil on the floor so I can conjure a demon.
 
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Keep on preaching from that stump. How's it working out for you?
If you doesn't has no trust in God, then how can He work with you. God has shown me a lot of things, but one thing about me is that I'm very open minded for new ideas. That is probably why He worked on me.
 
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Whatever you say. Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for me to take my Satanic medications and draw a sigil on the floor so I can conjure a demon.
Well, I think you has already has one drawn on the floor from last night; and so you can reused it.
 
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If you doesn't has no trust in God, then how can He work with you. God has shown me a lot of things, but one thing about me is that I'm very open minded for new ideas. That is probably why He worked on me.


Oh, will you look at that...it's past midnight my time, and I can no longer accept any more contributions from self-important, overly inflated "christians" until my normal business hours (11am-10pm EST). Thank you for your time. Good night.