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but yet her attacking me, as she has done for months now is ok..

what we see is the bias if the room..
Seriously, dude? Maybe because I don't keep telling how great I am and how much I never defend myself like you keep doing.
I do not fight for myself. I have no need to.

I and people like UTAH fight for the people who are not secure, or even know the truth, who may be led astray by these false prophets and false teachers..
There really are people like that on this site. Not many, but some. What you don't ever seem to get is you aren't one of them!!!

Me either, but at least I don't keep setting off my own grenades.


That's exactly what I've been trying to tell you all along. Stop thinking and acting like you're all that plus a pile of chips, and my little digs go away.

Honest! God doesn't NEED us! He can get rocks to do the same thing, and probably better than either one of us!
 
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see what i mean. this has nothing to do with what i said, just an attack.

pitiful
And seriously? You don't think God is here or is omnipresent? I could take your post one of two ways. I chose to take it the positive way, and yet this is an attack? You really really don't get you are offensive or defensive, do you? (I'm not buying that.)
 
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I forgive everyone. I am not going to sit here and be told I am something I am not though.

There happens to be a thing called integrity, and truthfulness also.

Here you are screaming and judging me, And yet she is th eone who did the attacking.

Where is the integrity?
You ned to look in the mirror, This is the very thing that God me and others to confront you and a few others as hard as we did, Because you were hypocrites..
 
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My personal opinion as to what is wrong? We don't discuss the Bible enough! We post a series of verses out of context, to support our ideology/theology. This is eisegesis. It is reading into the Scripture what we personally want it to say.

Instead we need to do exegesis. We need to read the Word with open hearts, and see what God is saying - not what we want it to say. That only happens when we spend time in a passage, look at the surrounding verses, learn about the culture, and once we have done all that, go back to the Word of God, prayerfully and see what God is saying, even if it doesn't line up with a favourite idea was have.

There would not be the fighting, if we were actually concentrating on the Bible, and what Jesus is saying to us. How can we apply the verses to our lives? How can we become better disciples, and how can we use those verses to MAKE disciples, which was Christ's final command!?

In Greek, we go through long passages. Last night I was reading Col. 1:1-23. I had studied all the words, the verb tenses, the noun cases, the grammar, but it was still piecemeal in my heart. I got my UBS Greek out, and just read it. Of course, I have to read slowly, and that is something I do not do often enough with my English Bible. As I slowly read the words, God showed me his amazing power, his majesty and glory. It lasted into the night and it is still with me today.

That is letting the word transform you! And it doesn't have to be Greek. English is fine - but really read it, and talk to God about what he is saying. I'm going to post the verses I was reading. I hope everyone will see the image of Christ, like I saw it when reading these verses.

If we all studied the Bible like this, together, we wouldn't have to fight and disagree. As for contending against false doctrine, I agree there are some non-negotiables. Like the Deity of Christ! As for the minor theologies, like soteriolgy and eschatology, and ecclesiology etc, etc, we don't need to fight about them, if we are truly having a discussion about the verses, and not our pet ideologies.

"Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,2 To the saints and faithful brothers in Christ at Colossae:
Grace to you and peace from God our Father.
Thanksgiving and Prayer

3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love that you have for all the saints, 5 because of the hope laid up for you in heaven. Of this you have heard before in the word of the truth, the gospel, 6 which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit and increasing—as it also does among you, since the day you heard it and understood the grace of God in truth, 7 just as you learned it from Epaphras our beloved fellow servant. He is a faithful minister of Christ on your behalf 8 and has made known to us your love in the Spirit.
9 And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10 so as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God. 11 May you be strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy, 12 giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. 13 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
The Preeminence of Christ

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. 19 For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.
21 And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, 22 he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.
 
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Amen...well said...now the tares will be offended because they will think you are talking about them..

....kinda like the song " you're so vain " by Carly Simon .."I bet you think this song is about you..don't you?..don't you? " ( the funny thing is about that song..it was all about that person...:confused: )
The sad part is I was forever interested in who it was about, and decades later she told.

And I forgot and no longer care.
 
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And again, I reiterate, indubidably. In other words, ditto! ;)
You STILL talk too much. lol

(Little joke. No one take this seriously.)
 
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Luther never had it easy that is for sure. He brought the church back to what it 'actually' had believed before becoming corrupt (in its view of Justification etc). I often hear people who have erroneous theological convictions use this type of reasoning... fortunately unlike Luther, their views where never held by the church.

There is an aweful lot of confusion in the church by Law and Grace.. its a shame really.. It is nothing new, Legalists and antinimoians have always been about ;)
The church asked Luther, "Are you sure about that?" Luther told them to give him time to think it over. It took him a day or two before he came back with, "Yes!"

I wish I was that smart!
 
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That perplexed kittycat is me. :rolleyes: LOL I just don't have the capacity to read through every post, especially when they resemble legal documents. I'm glad Jesus' message is simple, cuz my mind can't hold a lot. :eek:


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That perplexed kittycat is me. :rolleyes: LOL I just don't have the capacity to read through every post, especially when they resemble legal documents. I'm glad Jesus' message is simple, cuz my mind can't hold a lot. :eek:


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There's one or two (or more) I simply scroll by knowing what they'll say on any given subject, but, yeah. If I get involved, and stay involved I read it all. Not in one sitting, but eventually.
 
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what we have read in this thread from those who understand the precious Love of Christ has
truly humbled us, tears push against old eyes and we feel such comfort in your words of love
and understanding....TY precious ones, you are such a part of our hope.....
 
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what we have read in this thread from those who understand the precious Love of Christ has
truly humbled us, tears push against old eyes and we feel such comfort in your words of love
and understanding....TY precious ones, you are such a part of our hope.....
Amen, dear brother & sister! :)

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ok, we have to go now, this is just to sweet and lovely!!!'
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I was reading this thread earlier while in the city and my phone died lol

Ahhhh
I was in the city all day lol
I had forgotten how wonderful my internet connection can be lol
 
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you have had it out for me for months. I am getting alittle sick of your silly attacks. I think it is best for both of us..

1. I do not like when people are hypocrites. A lot of the people you defend are quick to slam others. and slander them, But yell and scream if someone does it to them.

I POINT THIS OUT and IF THEY KEEP DOING IT. I POINT IT OUT MORE..

If people like you do not like it. That's too bad.

I also will stand up for the gospel.. I have always done this.

You lied and said I argue with everyone, and get angry. That's funny, I do not agree with calvanists. Yet I do not fight with them. I do not fight with the YEC's even though I disagree, or even amillenials or post tribbers. Even though I disagree with them.
Yes I may have a strong debate every now and then, But The people I pit myself against are legalists. And hypocrites..

If you do not like it, That's fine, You do not have to. But please. Practice what you preach..
 
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My personal opinion as to what is wrong? We don't discuss the Bible enough! We post a series of verses out of context, to support our ideology/theology. This is eisegesis. It is reading into the Scripture what we personally want it to say.

Instead we need to do exegesis. We need to read the Word with open hearts, and see what God is saying - not what we want it to say. That only happens when we spend time in a passage, look at the surrounding verses, learn about the culture, and once we have done all that, go back to the Word of God, prayerfully and see what God is saying, even if it doesn't line up with a favourite idea was have.

There would not be the fighting, if we were actually concentrating on the Bible, and what Jesus is saying to us. How can we apply the verses to our lives? How can we become better disciples, and how can we use those verses to MAKE disciples, which was Christ's final command!?

In Greek, we go through long passages. Last night I was reading Col. 1:1-23. I had studied all the words, the verb tenses, the noun cases, the grammar, but it was still piecemeal in my heart. I got my UBS Greek out, and just read it. Of course, I have to read slowly, and that is something I do not do often enough with my English Bible. As I slowly read the words, God showed me his amazing power, his majesty and glory. It lasted into the night and it is still with me today.

That is letting the word transform you! And it doesn't have to be Greek. English is fine - but really read it, and talk to God about what he is saying. I'm going to post the verses I was reading. I hope everyone will see the image of Christ, like I saw it when reading these verses.

If we all studied the Bible like this, together, we wouldn't have to fight and disagree. As for contending against false doctrine, I agree there are some non-negotiables. Like the Deity of Christ! As for the minor theologies, like soteriolgy and eschatology, and ecclesiology etc, etc, we don't need to fight about them, if we are truly having a discussion about the verses, and not our pet ideologies.

"Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,2 To the saints and faithful brothers in Christ at Colossae:
Grace to you and peace from God our Father.
Thanksgiving and Prayer

3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love that you have for all the saints, 5 because of the hope laid up for you in heaven. Of this you have heard before in the word of the truth, the gospel, 6 which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit and increasing—as it also does among you, since the day you heard it and understood the grace of God in truth, 7 just as you learned it from Epaphras our beloved fellow servant. He is a faithful minister of Christ on your behalf 8 and has made known to us your love in the Spirit.
9 And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10 so as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God. 11 May you be strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy, 12 giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. 13 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
The Preeminence of Christ

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. 19 For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.
21 And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, 22 he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.

Sadly I agree..

We either fight, Or slander and call each other names, because they are calvanist (even if they are not.)
No debate any more. it is sad.
 
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I do not fight for myself. I have no need to.

I and people like UTAH fight for the people who are not secure, or even know the truth, who may be led astray by these false prophets and false teachers..
I seen the name JASON AND I started thinking that the false teacher Jason007 was back......
 

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I agree with your post.

I would just elaborate on one thing in your statement ... we are not trying to "slay the pharisee" ... but the false doctrine that he shares.

God wants all men to come to the truth ~

I think the distinction is important because if we go into battle with the wrong mindset it WILL affect our fight.
Amen. If we go into battle with the wrong spirit, then we will not have the blessing of the Right Spirit, which is the Holy Spirit.

Without the blessing of the Lord, all our sayings and doings are vain.

God does not want us to defend Him, He wants us to simply trust and obey. He told us not to try to separate the wheat from the tares. When the time comes to do it, He will do it. Just speak forth truth in a spirit of humility and love. The world can often discern our motives better then we can.
 
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