BEWARE

[shad]

I believe that much of what is communicated concerning the Spirit by well meaning believers is sentimentality because of ignorance and because of an imbalance in their understanding. You can disagree with me if you want to but you better prove it and I don't mean just quoting scriptures that you have no understanding about. I don't like it and it irritates me when their sentimentality is attributed to the Spirit as the voice of the Spirit or some prophetic utterance. It makes me angry and I complain to God about it but I don't have to let it lead me into sin before the sun goes down and I retire for the evening. That's what Eph 4:26 and Ps 142:2 says and it seems to be alright with God. I go to bed with a smile on my face, love in my heart, peace in my mind and hope for what's coming next. When you go to bed that way you wake up pretty good, not always but most of the time.

Imoss you are perfect in Christ and you did nothing that brought any displeasure to God, as a matter of fact you blessed His sacred socks off. First and foremost we live our life before God and not people. Your anger was totally justified and right from the Spirit of God. If not for believers like you, we would be a church filled with sentimental ignoramuses that get all excited emotionally because they think they heard from God through a prophetic utterance that came from someone that couldn't wait to leave church and light up a Newport and on their way home they cussed out a homeless person for crossing the street without using the crosswalk.

VW, I don't want to hear your crap, just be still. That was some righteous indignation and I did it without any sinful thought, word or attitude. My heart doesn't condemn me, the devil can't condemn me and I don't really care if you condemn me or not.

 

[VW]

For someone who says that he believes the scripture you sure ignore a lot of it.

Tell you what, you don't talk to me, and I won't talk to you. Your religious spirit is distasteful.

I already knew that you felt no shame.

 

[VW]

He got to me again, and here I am again apologizing to this group. Such arrogance is astounding. Righteous indignation? The only being who can be said to have this is God, as only He is righteous.

Anyway, sorry folks. My fault. I am close to using the ignore button. I want to be able to read what he says without reacting as I am wont to do. It is hard.

 

[shad]

He got to me again, and here I am again apologizing to this group. Such arrogance is astounding. Righteous indignation? The only being who can be said to have this is God, as only He is righteous.

Anyway, sorry folks. My fault. I am close to using the ignore button. I want to be able to read what he says without reacting as I am wont to do. It is hard.

You are so caught up in your emotions over this that you can even think objectively. The believer has God's perfect righteousness and the Holy Spirit dwelling within. You are the one that brought to our attention that we have the mind of Christ through the Spirit. We have the Holy Spirit who is God and the mind of Christ, so if the mood of God is righteously angry because of spiritual idolatry, why wouldn't the believer who is filled with God's Spirit take on that same mood of God and be angry?

 

[pickles]

To further elaborate on what I'm saying is for instance; if a man worships the one true God, But does this on the first day of the week and not on the seventh, is he breaking God's Sabbath law? Jesus taught that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath days. It is also lawful to do good on anyday of the week. God is God everyday! And if a person wants to worship on Sunday, Wednesday or even Saturday, It is lawful to do so! I was one who was deeply troubled in my spirit about the Sabbath day as I work on Saturdays. Now I understand what the Sabbath really means! If a man hasn't eaten any unclean meat and the day he dies, eats a ham sandwich, is he breaking God's law? Jesus said that what goes into a man doesn't defile him, but what comes out (the heart) which defiles a man. If a man who prays and meditates constantly, does not partake of the pleasures of this world, but only has a passive knowledge of the name of Jesus, Is he in danger of being left out of the kingdom? Heaven forbid! for Christ died for him as well! Paul say that those who are without the law, do that by nature, that which the law requires, become a law unto themselves! These and many other examples is why the understanding of the Sabbath is so important as this is why all of this is possible. God said to rest from our works. Does this mean not to work on Saturday? By the letter, which was a shadow of things to come, yes. But the letter was fulfilled in Christ! We live after the Spirit. So to rest on the Sabbath age is to rest from the works of imagery! The letter of the law was an image! The Buddha statue, the pictures Jesus, black or white, the trinity, and anyother similitude of God is an IMAGE! God is Spirit and those who worship must worship in spirit and in truth. We were made in the image of God and not the other way around. Our victory and salvation is secure in Jesus,, so in that I bodly seek the truth knowing that no weapon formed against me shall prosper!

I am always amazed at how even though my weakness is in recalling and finding the scripture, how Jesus will glorify himself in my weakness.
As soon as I logged off last night and began to read the next gospel that I had planned to, the first chapter I read had the scripture that I wanted to share with you. I know you may not see how big this is for me, but you need to understand that for me this can only be done by the power of Our Lord God.
I have only one message for you, it is not of me, but after prayer in Jesus Our Lord and savior this was shown as a grave concern. That is that no one can come to the father except through me: Jesus Our Lord and savior. A man can do everything good in works and prayer but if he does not accept this ,his chance at salvation is lost. Another man can struggle all his life to be good and pray, And still fail in works often. But if his faith is in Jesus as his Lord and savior he will have salvation.
Be sure that what you promote is in the gospel given to us by Our Lord Jesus.
You need to always remember that the understanding, wisdom, humility, and love of the world is imperfect. But these same things in Jesus are made perfect.
Instead of trying to prove your point, or my trying to prove you otherwise. Take time to consider why this message is given, is it given for the sake of anyones pride? Or is Jesus trying to help you know him as he askes you to.
Anyway here is the last scripture given to me ,for you.
Im not really sure what Jesus wants you to know through his Holy Spirit, but please know that Im not one that ussually gives out scripture so this must be important.
God bless, pickles

Galations 1:6 I am amazed that you are so soon deserting him who called you in accord with his gracious design in Christ, and are going over to another gospel. 7: But there is no other.Some who wish to alter the gospel of Christ must have confused you. 8:For even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach you a gospel not in accord with the one delivered to you, let a curse be upon him!
9: I repeat what I have just said, if anyone preaches a gospel to you other than the one you recieved, let a curse be upon him!

In the love of Our Lord Jesus, God bless, pickles

 

[imoss]

You need to understand that what Pickles has stated to you is true and comes from the Lord.

Bless your heart pickles I just love you to pieces.

 

[aspen]

You are lumping a lot of people into one group.

I am naming the behavior I have seen on this thread since I joined several weeks ago.

I have never seen IMoss claim to have never sinned,

Me neither - I never said she did. But I have seen VW claim this.

I've never seen her say anything like what you are saying about Israel

You are right me neither - once again - I never said she did. That would be Cup-of-ruin and miktre. Have you forgotten about the 3rd temple thread?

and I've never seen her reject the trinity.

Right again - I never said she did, but many people have done so on this site, and not only have they been allowed to remain members, I haven't heard a peep about it from other members.

I am not sure what the litmus test measures to identify acceptable people with heretical beliefs, but once you get that pass - you can say whatever you want without having a negative thread dedicated to you.

And they seem to be accepted with open arms - for some reason the rejection of this most basic of doctrines, the dividing line between Christianity and heresy, is not a problem because?

And again, your own prejudices as you assume that anyone who would disagree with you is anti-intellectual and then there is this "I must be wasting my time here" thing.

Yes. I am frustrated that I have had to spend so much time defending my beliefs to a person who refuses to use reason. It seems futile. This is the anti-intellectual part. It has nothing to do with my opinion of the people on this board and to have you imply this seems a bit hypersensitive to me. If I really thought everyone here was stupid, why would I speak to you as as adults? I try to post information that is well thought out - if I thought you were are stupid, I would simply grunt out one liners, without believing the anyone would get the information anyway. If I was being listened to and disagree with - I would stand up and cheer; however my character is being assassinated based on distortion.

Once again, I have no problem with people disagreeing with - I welcome it. To me, disagreement is interesting - it helps to broaden my understanding. In fact, I have changed my mind on two issues, recently:

1. I have recognized that groups redefine words - we all do it, I was not recognizing my own action - only others. I was frustrated that certain groups within Christianity were redefining the word religion.

2. Joyce Meyers.

Have you, VW, or imoss changed your mind on any issues lately?

What do you mean by that? Have you come to bring us poor ignorant folk the light of your intellect?

Do you really believe this? I am really blown away that I am being seen as arrogant in this situation - wow. I can understand it if you all disagree with me - my ideas are not mainstream - I do not expect you to agree, but I guess I do expect that my ideas would spark conversation, rather than accusations that I am teaching heretical ideas and that I am attacking orthodox beliefs and destroying the faith of young or confused Christians.


As for Israel, he started this conversation, and he's the one that spun it up.

Once again, I do not agree with Israel (the member), however, I do believe that he has been punished and dismissed unfairly, because he does not agree with certain people in here who must not be disagreed with.

You are angry at IMoss because you believe that she lied about you, but she spoke exactly the impression that many have of you, that you are most reluctant about the truths of the gospel that are most socially unacceptable.

You recognize that I am angry at imoss because I believe she lied about me. Let me clarify - I am anger at imoss because she continues to misrepresented my beliefs based on several posts. Now, you seem to be justifying her misrepresentation of my doctrinal understanding and character, based on what other people believe about me on this board. Since when do people's opinion define or justify lies?

If you believe that I am too reluctant about the truths of the gospel, why not ask me to clarify my position? The reason I think Imoss does not ask is because she misread my posts, made a big deal about them and is too prideful to back off and the more she continues, the least likely she will safe face.

As far as being embarrassed by the gospel - I simply am not. I am tired of Christians trying to justify their narrow, misunderstandings of Christianity and the double standard they place on God.

Imoss I am sorry that you believe that a correct understanding of doctrine is more important than a heart sanctifying relationship with Jesus. I simply disagree with you on this point. Can't we simply agree to disagree? I really thought all this was settled, I was surprised to get up this morning a get online a discover that this thread is still alive and well.

 

[pickles]

You need to understand that what Pickles has stated to you is true and comes from the Lord.

Bless your heart pickles I just love you to pieces.

And I you Imoss.
If we stand at all in the love of Jesus, we must stand as a witness to his salvation!
Otherwise, we have none of his love within us.
God bless, pickles

 

[Israel]

I am always amazed at how even though my weakness is in recalling and finding the scripture, how Jesus will glorify himself in my weakness.
As soon as I logged off last night and began to read the next gospel that I had planned to, the first chapter I read had the scripture that I wanted to share with you. I know you may not see how big this is for me, but you need to understand that for me this can only be done by the power of Our Lord God.
I have only one message for you, it is not of me, but after prayer in Jesus Our Lord and savior this was shown as a grave concern. That is that no one can come to the father except through me: Jesus Our Lord and savior. A man can do everything good in works and prayer but if he does not accept this ,his chance at salvation is lost. Another man can struggle all his life to be good and pray, And still fail in works often. But if his faith is in Jesus as his Lord and savior he will have salvation.
Be sure that what you promote is in the gospel given to us by Our Lord Jesus.
You need to always remember that the understanding, wisdom, humility, and love of the world is imperfect. But these same things in Jesus are made perfect.
Instead of trying to prove your point, or my trying to prove you otherwise. Take time to consider why this message is given, is it given for the sake of anyones pride? Or is Jesus trying to help you know him as he askes you to.
Anyway here is the last scripture given to me ,for you.
Im not really sure what Jesus wants you to know through his Holy Spirit, but please know that Im not one that ussually gives out scripture so this must be important.
God bless, pickles

Galations 1:6 I am amazed that you are so soon deserting him who called you in accord with his gracious design in Christ, and are going over to another gospel. 7: But there is no other.Some who wish to alter the gospel of Christ must have confused you. 8:For even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach you a gospel not in accord with the one delivered to you, let a curse be upon him!
9: I repeat what I have just said, if anyone preaches a gospel to you other than the one you recieved, let a curse be upon him!

In the love of Our Lord Jesus, God bless, pickles

Let me clarify. I'm not saying that praying to a statue is acceptable. What I'm saying is that Christians will condemn these people, but are Christian images any better or worse off than the statue of Budda? I here that Allah is not God's name, but the Irony in this is that Jesus is not God's name either. They're are no 'J's' in the Hebrew language. And for that matter is Yashua, Yeshua or any other name given to the messiah His true name? But glory be to God, the ceator of all tongues! We now live after the spirit. We as a people need to put all idols away!

 

[charisenexcelcis]

You are lumping a lot of people into one group.

I am naming the behavior I have seen on this thread since I joined several weeks ago.
But your reply was directed toward IMoss. What is interesting is that in the following replies, you do lump together groups of people. Your all over the board with this, but you are replying to Imoss. Read your post:
I have never seen IMoss claim to have never sinned,

Me neither - I never said she did. But I have seen VW claim this.

I've never seen her say anything like what you are saying about Israel

You are right me neither - once again - I never said she did. That would be Cup-of-ruin and miktre. Have you forgotten about the 3rd temple thread?

and I've never seen her reject the trinity.

Right again - I never said she did, but many people have done so on this site, and not only have they been allowed to remain members, I haven't heard a peep about it from other members.

I am not sure what the litmus test measures to identify acceptable people with heretical beliefs, but once you get that pass - you can say whatever you want without having a negative thread dedicated to you.

And they seem to be accepted with open arms - for some reason the rejection of this most basic of doctrines, the dividing line between Christianity and heresy, is not a problem because?
Most of the people you mentioned are on the fringes. As for basic doctrines, you are hetero-orthodox on your view of the Bible and salvation, but you have not been shunned.
And again, your own prejudices as you assume that anyone who would disagree with you is anti-intellectual and then there is this "I must be wasting my time here" thing.

Yes. I am frustrated that I have had to spend so much time defending my beliefs to a person who refuses to use reason. It seems futile. This is the anti-intellectual part. It has nothing to do with my opinion of the people on this board and to have you imply this seems a bit hypersensitive to me. If I really thought everyone here was stupid, why would I speak to you as as adults? I try to post information that is well thought out - if I thought you were are stupid, I would simply grunt out one liners, without believing the anyone would get the information anyway. If I was being listened to and disagree with - I would stand up and cheer; however my character is being assassinated based on distortion.
But you do speak down to people. And when someone chaffs against it, you react with incredulity.
Once again, I have no problem with people disagreeing with - I welcome it. To me, disagreement is interesting - it helps to broaden my understanding. In fact, I have changed my mind on two issues, recently:

1. I have recognized that groups redefine words - we all do it, I was not recognizing my own action - only others. I was frustrated that certain groups within Christianity were redefining the word religion.

2. Joyce Meyers.

Have you, VW, or imoss changed your mind on any issues lately?
I can only speak for myself in saying that my views do change.
What do you mean by that? Have you come to bring us poor ignorant folk the light of your intellect?
Because you said that you are "wasting your time here." Wasting you time because of what? This is like the guy who would text that he was wiping the dust off his shoes. Whatever your intent was it sounded like you were blessing us with your presence.
Do you really believe this? I am really blown away that I am being seen as arrogant in this situation - wow. I can understand it if you all disagree with me - my ideas are not mainstream - I do not expect you to agree, but I guess I do expect that my ideas would spark conversation, rather than accusations that I am teaching heretical ideas and that I am attacking orthodox beliefs and destroying the faith of young or confused Christians.


As for Israel, he started this conversation, and he's the one that spun it up.

Once again, I do not agree with Israel (the member), however, I do believe that he has been punished and dismissed unfairly, because he does not agree with certain people in here who must not be disagreed with.
Israel has a history here and he's a big boy. Try having an extended and friendly conversation. He entered into that conversation because he saw a rift and was taking advantage of it. He was saying that not being a self-proclaimed non-Christian should not be a note of caution for those who come in expecting conversations between Christians. He thought that the conflict between you and IMoss would lend help to his contention and he was right.
You are angry at IMoss because you believe that she lied about you, but she spoke exactly the impression that many have of you, that you are most reluctant about the truths of the gospel that are most socially unacceptable.

You recognize that I am angry at imoss because I believe she lied about me. Let me clarify - I am anger at imoss because she continues to misrepresented my beliefs based on several posts. Now, you seem to be justifying her misrepresentation of my doctrinal understanding and character, based on what other people believe about me on this board. Since when do people's opinion define or justify lies?
IMoss posted the entries that made her think that. You have the opportunity to clarify or repudiate them. But even though most remained silent, few were surprised by that understanding. If she misunderstood you, and her post indicates that she is open to that possibility, than she did not lie, she misunderstood. You drew a line in the sand, when you used the word "liar".
If you believe that I am too reluctant about the truths of the gospel, why not ask me to clarify my position? The reason I think Imoss does not ask is because she misread my posts, made a big deal about them and is too prideful to back off and the more she continues, the least likely she will safe face.

As far as being embarrassed by the gospel - I simply am not. I am tired of Christians trying to justify their narrow, misunderstandings of Christianity and the double standard they place on God.
Again, I don't understand how you can read that reply and not see it as a bit arrogant. Who are you talking about? All Christians, because that is exactly what you just said.

 

[charisenexcelcis]

Let me clarify. I'm not saying that praying to a statue is acceptable. What I'm saying is that Christians will condemn these people, but are Christian images any better or worse off than the statue of Budda? I here that Allah is not God's name, but the Irony in this is that Jesus is not God's name either. They're are no 'J's' in the Hebrew language. And for that matter is Yashua, Yeshua or any other name given to the messiah His true name? But glory be to God, the ceator of all tongues! We now live after the spirit. We as a people need to put all idols away!

There are no c's, q's or w's. Greek on the other hand also has no h's, so Iesou would be better.

 

[pickles]

Let me clarify. I'm not saying that praying to a statue is acceptable. What I'm saying is that Christians will condemn these people, but are Christian images any better or worse off than the statue of Budda? I here that Allah is not God's name, but the Irony in this is that Jesus is not God's name either. They're are no 'J's' in the Hebrew language. And for that matter is Yashua, Yeshua or any other name given to the messiah His true name? But glory be to God, the ceator of all tongues! We now live after the spirit. We as a people need to put all idols away!

Let me clarify something here, I do not pray or worship any image, and I believe it is safe to say that most christians do not ether. I pray and worship that which is real, Our Lord Jesus, in him God Our Father.
Also, I do not condem any person. No matter what they believe. That belongs only to God Our Father.
What I hope you will see, is that if I aprove or exuse a faith that holds up anything other than Jesus Our Lord and savior. I am promoting and supporting a path of condemnation.
Because of the great love and salvation I have come to know through Jesus, I will always witness for Jesus. Because of not only my hope that they will know him also, but because as scripture says, that he pleads through us.
Try to see without judgement, that those who witness for Jesus, do so, because of the love of Jesus.
I know that it may seem that those who witness pass judgement, but it is not about judgement.
It is about giving witness to a perfect gift.
Yes there have been those that have judged, but have you considered that by saying that those who witness are passing judgement, that you may be judgeing as well?
See how easly it can happen, you or I think we are seeing something new, or are being better at understanding, can lead to pride and judgement.
That is why Jesus gave us not only his life but his name, and with this his gospel and Holy Spirit.
If we trust in our own understanding ,without the truth, without the name of Jesus Our Lord and Savior. The grave danger we put our very souls and also those we speak to, at risk?
I see in your words the compassion, and care for all in this world. Your desire to protect.
But there is a danger in this, because it is not you or I that decides who enters into heaven, it is not by our power or streangth that we or any are saved.
It is only Jesus that saves, because of God Our Father.
Like I said before, If you promote that all faiths will bring one salvation, are you prepared to tell that person, oops, I guess I was wrong. And then see them lose all the promises of Our Lord Jesus?
To see that one condemed?
I can only witness to Jesus and all that he has given us.
Please go before Jesus in prayer, ask him to show you the truth and message of the cross.
Trust in the truth of the scriptures on this, believe in the very words of Jesus. NO one can come to the father except through me.
There is a great and good message in the cross.
Trust not in my words but the very words of Jesus.
My prayer is that all of us in Jesus will know his truth.
In the love of Jesus, God bless, pickles

 

[Israel]

As for Israel, he started this conversation, and he's the one that spun it up.

Once again, I do not agree with Israel (the member), however, I do believe that he has been punished and dismissed unfairly, because he does not agree with certain people in here who must not be disagreed with.
Israel has a history here and he's a big boy. Try having an extended and friendly conversation. He entered into that conversation because he saw a rift and was taking advantage of it. He was saying that not being a self-proclaimed non-Christian should not be a note of caution for those who come in expecting conversations between Christians. He thought that the conflict between you and IMoss would lend help to his contention and he was right.

My intention was not to take advantage of any rift. It was simply to point out that we judge others not paying attention to the fact that we do the same things.

 

[imoss]

just reflecting on how super cool it would be if Pickles led Israel to the Lord. Oh how we would rejoice! I know for sure as I have trouble at times with scripture recall so the significance of the scripture for you Israel is not lost to me. Please do read her posts as she said, they are specifically for you and if you will read some of her posts you will realize that this is a very important thing for you thats happened here today. Praise the Lord and bless you & his faithful servant Pickles.

 

[VW]

But now you also, put them all aside; anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices, and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true konwledge according to the image of the One who created him - a renewal in which there is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.

Do you recognize this scripture? Do you accept the authority of the apostle Paul? Who wrote this by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit? You accuse me of asking that we do something that is not in the scriptures, and ignore this plain command. Your religious spirit is getting the better of you.

 

[VW]

Let me say something here. I am not perfect! I am a sinner, maybe worse than any here. I know this by seeing Jesus as clearly as I can! I did not condemn Israel, and never would. I recognize what he is laboring under, and that is all I ever said. I tried to enter conversation with him, but to no avail. I stood between imoss and aspen to extend the hand of peace, because I knew that there could be no good from the way the conversation was going. I knew that aspen had posted a message which disturbed me, and I went back are searched to see if what I thought was true. I found that the post was not saying what I thought, and stated so. It was not clear, but it was not saying that all roads or paths lead to God. It did say that many religions have better acting members than christianity. I agree with this, whole heartedly. The only person here who I am upset with is Shad, and that is because he has set his mind and heart against the Holy Spirit and any teaching about Him that is not from him personally.

Jesus Christ came into this world to save sinners, and I am one of those.

Jesus Christ is perfect, and the Father's seed in us is perfect. John wrote about the 2 natures, as did Paul and others. We have a fleshly nature which is dead and sinful. We have a heavenly nature, which is perfect and not capable of sin. We have the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of the Father, (same Spirit,) who is in us to teach us to live in the new nature which is from God, and not in the old nature which is destined to death and can only work death. He teaches us to walk not by knowledge or wisdom which we have gained, but by the love of God in all things and with all, so that in this walk, Jesus will be all, and in all.

 

[Browncoat]

I believe G-d is more pleased when we work to improve our walk with Him and when we help support and lift up others in their walk with Him, than when we play the game of finger pointing

Just my opinion. If it is out of order, I apologize and will retract my statement.

 

[shad]

But now you also, put them all aside; anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices, and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true konwledge according to the image of the One who created him - a renewal in which there is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.

Do you recognize this scripture? Do you accept the authority of the apostle Paul? Who wrote this by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit? You accuse me of asking that we do something that is not in the scriptures, and ignore this plain command. Your religious spirit is getting the better of you.

If you would bother to really study the Scriptures and really do some digging you would find that the anger that is referred to in Col 3:8 and Eph 4:31 is orge - a noun that has to do with the natural impulse of the flesh that comes from the old sin nature in man. This is why it is to be laid aside or put off.

The anger in Eph 4:26 is orgizo - a verb expressing strong justified emotions that have been provoked. They do not have to be put off because they are justified and do not last long, unlike orge that can be long lasting and build up resentment in the soul. This kind of anger if turned inward comes out later in bursts and can turn into outrage.

For your information and to cover your lack of specific knowledge in this area, I hope you will add to your faith this knowledge that comes from God's inspired word to instruct you in righteousness that the Holy Spirit can use to guide you into the truth.

 

[VW]

If you would bother to really study the Scriptures and really do some digging you would find that the anger that is referred to in Col 3:8 and Eph 4:31 is orge - a noun that has to do with the natural impulse of the flesh that comes from the old sin nature in man. This is why it is to be laid aside or put off.

The anger in Eph 4:26 is orgizo - a verb expressing strong justified emotions that have been provoked. They do not have to be put off because they are justified and do not last long, unlike orge that can be long lasting and build up resentment in the soul. This kind of anger if turned inward comes out later in bursts and can turn into outrage.

For your information and to cover your lack of specific knowledge in this area, I hope you will add to your faith this knowledge that comes from God's inspired word to instruct you in righteousness that the Holy Spirit can use to guide you into the truth.

The passage in Eph does in no way encourage anger. This is an attempt of your using your knowledge of scripture to make God jump to your tune. Be angry if you want, either one.

 

[Thaddaeus]

Yikes!!!! Who are you warning us against?

let the guilty speak !!!!!!!