Cure for cancer?

[mar09]

It may possibly slow it down. But anyone looking to it as a cure is likely to be disapointed.

When i first read deliberately on traditional chinese med from wiki not so long ago, i see there is so much in it so 'foreign' for us, who grew up with orthodox western medicine. (I hardly read wiki actually, altho they are a quick help sometimes.) True, their --tcm- ancient practices are based on a different philosophy, but u wonder abt their new technologies like green chemotherapy an dhow these are based on recent findings in science also? But whther we agree or not w/ their methods, ppl do get healed or recover, often when they continue w/ predominantly raw food regimens or Crusty's example perhaps (and this is not meant to point out where the healing comes from.. or start an argument).

Way below the page, i read this:
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This makes em think again that a lot of things we read about whether in health, faith or political matters are again so influenced by the things we grew up with and w/ which we are accustomed to. A poor farmer picks guava (leaves), guyabano (leaves), avocado, lemongrass and other leaves to make teas or infusions, and gets well w/o praying to a statue or saying chants. \sometimes even the richest man with all the resources, good food and modern medical facilities and services doestn make it. God knows what each needs and has provided for us, altho sometimes we did not know and not searched enough perhaps.

 

[JosephsDreams]

A raw food life style can cure, or slow down, or even be the main factor if cancer goes into remission. It is not a guaranteed cure though. It does greatly increase the chances of a complete recovery. Cancer cells are tenacious in what they do. They can sometimes, somehow adapt to certain efforts to eradicate them. It is probably, usually and almost definitely a far better course of action then chemo.
But if one were to choose chemo as the treatment, and most doctors will advise against it, but studies bear out that certain supplements and anti oxidants can protect the healthy cells will chemo destroys the cancer cells.
I don't know if enough info is available to prove holistic is a better alternative, or if any studies have been done, but I know someone who was in the medical field and then went into holistic treatments, and has seen over 10,000 clients in over 45 years, and says without a doubt that dramatic life style changes like a raw or vegan diet is a far better alternative, not always, but usually, then chemo.
By the way, when one has cancer, vegan is actually the way to go as opposed to raw, generally speaking.
Statistics show that, I forget the exact numbers, but something like more then half of cancer patients, maybe as much as 65% die of the side effects of the chemo before the cancer. A lot of them get organ failure or blood clots.
Of course when the cancer is diagnosed and what type of cancer is also crucial in regards to chances of recovery and how to treat it when considering holistic modalites.
There are many, many different holistic therapies which can be an adjunct to the main treatment, which have great benefits in their own right.
Chemo generally, in my opinion, based on lengthy conversations with doctors, from what I have read, and seen, ravages the body, and does more harm then good. That is not to say that it can not sometimes kill the cancer, but the odds are lower then a if one makes a lifestyle change, and other alternative treatments. And the holistic treatments are much gentler on the body, that's for sure.
God designed us perfectly. We brought death upon us when Adam and Eve sinned in the garden. Although we are all under the consequence of death due to sin, our bodies are still biologically capable of great healing and remedial abilities. The key is to allow the body to do its job. If we get out of its way, and just permitted it to function as designed, even in this compromised environment, many people would improve their quality of life and also the length without the need for the disastrous side effects of prescription drugs.

 

[Crustyone]

Just read that the mainstream medicines are finally starting to enhance the bodies own defenses against cancers. Alternative medicine has always done this. It's nice to see the medical scientists are catching up. Opdivo is one of that new type of drug. Also just read that Turmeric shrinks the blood vessels going to the cancer cells. Man that stuff is amazing.

 

[Crustyone]

Tourist, I just read your post #60 and I hope you got the part of not using it with food. It will react with some foods and not others though. Maybe OJ is OK. I just got a bottle of "oxygen pills" and each pill has 20 drops worth of H2O2 at 35% in dried form. It says to take two at at time, so one teaspoon of 3% probably isn't going to be worth much, but it does help with the tiredness. I am planning to give my sister some of the pills in hopes that it will have a positive effect on her Alzheimer's.

 

[Crustyone]

Just read about another "Cancer Cure" that was discovered by a Canadian nurse back in the early 1900s called Essiac tea. The website with the information for that and AMD prevention and a natural antidepressant is here: http://www.alsearsmd.com/confidential_cures/2016_March-Confidential-Cures-NL-FINAL.pdf

 

[Crustyone]

Also read that Turmeric will slow and on rare occasion kill off Cancerous cells because it restricts blood flow to those kind of cells. You need 750 mg of Turmeric and 5-8mg of black pepper twice a day.

 

[JosephsDreams]

The trend in western medicine is biotech drugs, and stem cell therapy.
With bio tech drugs there are still some problems to be worked out, mostly how to turn these cells off once the mass murder of tumors is accomplished. And how to moderate the cells response so as not to be aggressive to the point where they kill more then tumors. And of course the delivery, to name probably the most complex challenges.
The bio tech drugs, to simplify it, use specific proteins/DNA to wrap around the cells, to induce the body to produce certain stimuli to 'turn off" or knock out cell lines of cancer mutation. What these drugs do is basically super charge the immune system. They remove the "brakes" that keep the bodies T cells from recognizing cancer as an enemy, and have helped demonstrated the immune system is capable of destroying cancer. These class of drugs are using our cells as living bio drug treatments. A fancy way of saying that it is freeing our bodies to do as God designed.
Folks, it all comes back to God. Even science is now admitting that without a healthy immune system, they can't do anything. This drug is just a stimulator of our immune system. Something that would not need stimulation in the first place if we lived a lifestyle closer to how our creator designed. We would have never died if we didn't sin. God created us to be immortal in these bodies in the environment and lifestyle He originally intended for us.
If this drug can be fully realized, in time, it will save millions.
Even if fully developed, I Personally would not rely on it as a morning after type thing. The real answer, it will never change, is to live as close of possible to how God intended. It is work and sacrifice, but well worth it. Sadly, it is human nature to take the easiest route, even if it is not the best.

 

[mar09]

How abt grounding as part of healing..short, w/ link to peek at some research.
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[oldethennew]

thank you both, for sharing and caring about us all...

 

[Crustyone]

God put in most of us, the desire to care about each other.

 

[laura_charlotte]

Wow, I'm glad you still have your leg. There is quite a bit of info on cancer. I'm surprised it continues to devastate lives. There are many people who claim they brought their findings and documented cases of cures to the Cancer Society and they were not interested. There is no money in healthy people.

That's it - there's no money in healthy people, because we're independent of big pharma, and chose not to live a life, a shortened, half lived, unhealthy life on medication that can temporarily resolve one problem and give multiple others.

Mental and spiritual state does NOT play a role in getting cancer. You don't get cancer from not being spiritual enough, or TOO spiritual. Staying positive is essential, but cancer isn't caused by negativity.. Sometimes an operation takes care of the cancer, as it did with mine..

This is total misinformation. As a surgeon once said, eating healthily is far cheaper than surgery, ongoing 'treatment' and quite often, a disease which costs people their lives. "don't worry about cancer, there's a chance that an operation will get rid of it" is the most ignorant, least empowering and most discouraging statement. Prevention is the most empowering and best cure for cancer as I will explain.

Emotional factors that cause stress are major contributors to the development of cancer. If people don't know God, they don't know what hope is, these factors are absolutely related to the cause and cure of cancers.

A few of my family members have had cancer and from 19 I knew I had to be active in preventing it. It's not enough for a girl to go to a 'medical professional' and get her breasts checked by them or scanned by a machine every so often when cancer's already developed.

I'm a vegan and I've always be actively pursuing the enemy's war on my physical and mental well being. I was put on this earth for a reason, to do God's will. The enemy's main goal is to take me out via my health anyway he can and ultimately take my life prematurely to stop me from fulfilling God's purpose for my life.

The enemy has completely failed both mentally and physically. From casting every thought I have from the enemy to God, from getting up at 5 am to do my exercise, from my making right choices with food, everything that goes into my mind, my body and everything I have in my surrounds is nothing but positive, healthy and filled with God. The devil can't touch me, he's tried and failed. Here's now:

Thoughts - the mental battle - turning every thought and word over to Christ, living in the word daily.
Education - educating yourself on health, nutrition, diet, exercise, lifestyle - there's no excuse now days to live in ignorance at all with the availability of local libraries and the internet. Reading articles, research, reviews and testimonies are excellent sources of education to stay on top issues.
Lifestyle - eating only healthy real sustaining foods with adequate supplements.
Exercise - doing this daily, regularly.

I don't eat anything that's processed or has to be cooked, I only eat raw and organic 'real' food, which 9 times out of 10 is just fruit. Bananas, mangos and blueberries is what I've started on today and nothing is better for the brain and body than fruit.

People are unashamedly clueless how red meat with all it's chemicals, additives and hormones is one of the biggest causes of cancer as are products from the dairy industry yet they still chose to put that poison in their bodies. It's a complete myth that if you give up these poisonous products you'll be lacking in protein or calcium. Both can be found in plenty of plant foods in abundance and with nothing but positive effects on the body.

I power walk a minimum of 6 times a day approx 40 minutes each time.

I also take my supplements, I never rely on them, they're just one piece of the pie, part of the bigger picture of my health. It's totally insufficient to just take some plastic, synthetic, cheap piece of garbage supplement that you think will have some kind of positive affect because of the supposed vitamin name that the company has slapped on it. You have to examine everything, the ingredients, that goes into the supplement, do some trial and error, read reviews, find a reputable brand and be willing to spend the money on natural supplements that are worth it and help do the job.

Cancer can't live in a body with glutathione in it. I take nascent and or detoxified iodine every day along with glutathione as, along with every other factor I've listed, are two of the major preventative measures against cancer.

 

[JosephsDreams]

That's it - there's no money in healthy people, because we're independent of big pharma, and chose not to live a life, a shortened, half lived, unhealthy life on medication that can temporarily resolve one problem and give multiple others.



This is total misinformation. As a surgeon once said, eating healthily is far cheaper than surgery, ongoing 'treatment' and quite often, a disease which costs people their lives. "don't worry about cancer, there's a chance that an operation will get rid of it" is the most ignorant, least empowering and most discouraging statement. Prevention is the most empowering and best cure for cancer as I will explain.

Emotional factors that cause stress are major contributors to the development of cancer. If people don't know God, they don't know what hope is, these factors are absolutely related to the cause and cure of cancers.

A few of my family members have had cancer and from 19 I knew I had to be active in preventing it. It's not enough for a girl to go to a 'medical professional' and get her breasts checked by them or scanned by a machine every so often when cancer's already developed.

I'm a vegan and I've always be actively pursuing the enemy's war on my physical and mental well being. I was put on this earth for a reason, to do God's will. The enemy's main goal is to take me out via my health anyway he can and ultimately take my life prematurely to stop me from fulfilling God's purpose for my life.

The enemy has completely failed both mentally and physically. From casting every thought I have from the enemy to God, from getting up at 5 am to do my exercise, from my making right choices with food, everything that goes into my mind, my body and everything I have in my surrounds is nothing but positive, healthy and filled with God. The devil can't touch me, he's tried and failed. Here's now:

Thoughts - the mental battle - turning every thought and word over to Christ, living in the word daily.
Education - educating yourself on health, nutrition, diet, exercise, lifestyle - there's no excuse now days to live in ignorance at all with the availability of local libraries and the internet. Reading articles, research, reviews and testimonies are excellent sources of education to stay on top issues.
Lifestyle - eating only healthy real sustaining foods with adequate supplements.
Exercise - doing this daily, regularly.

I don't eat anything that's processed or has to be cooked, I only eat raw and organic 'real' food, which 9 times out of 10 is just fruit. Bananas, mangos and blueberries is what I've started on today and nothing is better for the brain and body than fruit.

People are unashamedly clueless how red meat with all it's chemicals, additives and hormones is one of the biggest causes of cancer as are products from the dairy industry yet they still chose to put that poison in their bodies. It's a complete myth that if you give up these poisonous products you'll be lacking in protein or calcium. Both can be found in plenty of plant foods in abundance and with nothing but positive effects on the body.

I power walk a minimum of 6 times a day approx 40 minutes each time.

I also take my supplements, I never rely on them, they're just one piece of the pie, part of the bigger picture of my health. It's totally insufficient to just take some plastic, synthetic, cheap piece of garbage supplement that you think will have some kind of positive affect because of the supposed vitamin name that the company has slapped on it. You have to examine everything, the ingredients, that goes into the supplement, do some trial and error, read reviews, find a reputable brand and be willing to spend the money on natural supplements that are worth it and help do the job.

Cancer can't live in a body with glutathione in it. I take nascent and or detoxified iodine every day along with glutathione as, along with every other factor I've listed, are two of the major preventative measures against cancer.

What is a ideal diet to help prevent cancer? Is raw more ideal then vegan?

 

[JosephsDreams]

How long have you been eating raw?

 

[JosephsDreams]

If your eating primarily only fruit over long periods of time, it can be detrimental.

 

[laura_charlotte]

How long have you been eating raw?

Since I was 19 years old in 2001.

What is a ideal diet to help prevent cancer? Is raw more ideal then vegan?

Precisely everything that i've already outlined in my first post. Please go back and read my first post for the detailed answer to this question. I need to clear up you definitions and understandings, I suggest you do some further reading into this topic. Read up on veganism. Raw is not 'more' ideal than vegan. Raw IS vegan.

If your eating primarily only fruit over long periods of time, it can be detrimental.

My experience is different as it is for millions of others who are living the raw vegan lifestyle. If you want to look at anything detrimental, consider animal cruelty and global warming - what the meat and dairy industries are inextricably linked too. Have a look at the cancer and other disease percentages in the vegan communities of the world vs the health and lives of those who aren't - who eat meat, dairy, smoke, drink and eat all the bad sugars. Back to the personal front, I can produce perfect blood and heart tests and a perfect brain scan. I live an active perfectly fulfilled life as a primary school teacher doing the Lord's work and have done so since my early 20's. There's nothing detrimental at all about living the raw organic lifestyle, it has nothing but benefits short and long term.

 

[JosephsDreams]

Since I was 19 years old in 2001.




Precisely everything that i've already outlined in my first post. Please go back and read my first post for the detailed answer to this question. I need to clear up you definitions and understandings, I suggest you do some further reading into this topic. Read up on veganism. Raw is not 'more' ideal than vegan. Raw IS vegan.



My experience is different as it is for millions of others who are living the raw vegan lifestyle. If you want to look at anything detrimental, consider animal cruelty and global warming - what the meat and dairy industries are inextricably linked too. Have a look at the cancer and other disease percentages in the vegan communities of the world vs the health and lives of those who aren't - who eat meat, dairy, smoke, drink and eat all the bad sugars. Back to the personal front, I can produce perfect blood and heart tests and a perfect brain scan. I live an active perfectly fulfilled life as a primary school teacher doing the Lord's work and have done so since my early 20's. There's nothing detrimental at all about living the raw organic lifestyle, it has nothing but benefits short and long term.

You can be raw and not vegan, but it is unusual, yes. It is true, raw almost always means vegan.
And raw ​is more ideal then vegan.
You need to slow down...Your preaching to the choir. We are on the same side. But don't be so focused that you are discarding what I am saying. I have been 100% vegan for 23 years. I have been raw for 5 of them, although not presently. I have fasted too many times to count.
I am not saying this to be arrogant or brag. I am trying to reach you. Your enthused by your lifestyle, and rightly so. Your doing what less then 1 percent of the population is doing. I salute you.
But... stop listen...to what I am saying.
You did not answer me. So it sounds like you are eating mostly fruit.
I know that over long periods of time, like 5 to 6 years, to 10 years or longer, if your eating primarily all fruit, you are going to develop problems. It is a lot of sugar floating around in your blood. I understand that it is sugar from fruit. But it is still sugar.
And your not the only one has has eaten a primarily fruit diet for long periods of time, assuming you are doing that. Other noted ND's and holistic people and authors have, and they eventually run into trouble. There teeth start to rot. There bone density decreases. Some of them have gotten brain fog.
I am not talking about a raw diet. I am talking about a raw diet of almost all fruit.
Do you realize the extent of DNA depreciation over the generations? The detox your experiencing? The degrading of our environment? Do you understand what I am trying to tell you?
Let me ask you a question. Your raw since 2001. How much has your innate stamina increased, do you think, percentage wise?
If you wanted to stay vegan, but break the raw food diet, how would you go about it? I know, or I think it sounds like you want to stay raw, but just go along with my scenario. How would you go about eating cooked foods again? And what percentage would you eat of cooked foods?

 

[JosephsDreams]

Are you completely 100% raw? Because there is a difference of being 100% raw as opposed to 90% raw. The detox is different, the emotional, and biological healing is different. Even the spiritual aspect is somewhat different.

 

[laura_charlotte]

Forgot to mention magnascent iodine as an alternative, all the best to those going through it and those interested in preventing it, ultimately it's in the Lords Hands, but as christians we must take initiative in whatever way we can to help ourselves. God speed.

 

[JosephsDreams]

There is a direct correlation between your diet and tissue quality, and of course disease; Physical, as well as some emotional / psychological issues. Before a person sets to redefine their diet and lifestyle, usually their tissue quality is not good. The standard American diet is a acronym for SAD. The average American actually is like a walking pus bag. So you have to understand that when you make the change to a better diet, be it a vegan, or all raw diet, or something in between on those lines, your weight is going to go way down. When I first changed my diet, everybody thought I was making a tremendous mistake because I lost so much weight. I went from being a very well built guy to being like a toothpick.
To do this successfully, you have to understand what is going on with the body. When I first got into this and went to some of the natural hygiene meetings, some of these people looked horrible. They were terrible examples of good health. The reason was that they were the people into the early stages of this diet. Their bodies were detoxifying and weight-loss was part of that. The people that were doing well were not going to the meetings because they were already past that.
Many people never get through this stage because there is so much confusing information out there that is misleading. Many people, then and today, do not realize that the person trying the "perfect diet" does not always have the perfect body and because of this, he or she suffers in making the transition.
And then their are other common misunderstandings at higher levels. Those who have passed the transition stage can experience other issues with biological off gassing, and possible cellular fermentation.

A clear sign of this is teeth problems. Blood gases are connected to teeth problems. You have to be very careful, for if. your teeth start to become pain-sensitive, that means your stomach has a back pressure of gases. Your teeth are the first place you will feel pain, if you have backed-up gas inside your blood. If this happens, the gases back up into your blood and that is where the trouble begins. It could also de-mineralize your bones in the roots of your teeth.
As time goes on, you can eat more fruit, however, if your stomach starts to extend, you start to get a gas-filled stomach and your teeth start to hurt, this means higher blood gases and fermentation. If that happens, you might be eating too much fruit. That means you should be eating more fats, more nuts, and eating a variety of different foods.
Having greens in your diet is much safer. I do not recommend anybody eat a diet of only fruit. I think that if you do that, you will run into disaster. I have seen some people actually just about destroy themselves. People say they eat a fruitarian diet of only fruits. I do not have proof, but I think a lot of them are just telling tales.

 

[JosephsDreams]

A primary contributor to cancer is high levels of a well-known growth factor that significantly increase the risks of colorectal, breast, and prostate cancer, as well as other cancers, medical researchers have found.
The growth factor, known as insulin-like growth factor 1, or IGF1 is necessary for proper growth in children, but studies of men and women more than 40 years old raise the possibility that it contributes to the growth of tumors. These studies were conducted at Channing Laboratory in Boston, a joint facility of Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, and at the Harvard School of Public Health.

Simply put, in layman's terms, animal protein is a primary contributor in cancer formation. I am not saying that it is the only reason. But leaving animal protein out of your diet goes a on long way in reducing your chances of getting cancer.
If you do have cancer, leaving it out of your diet can help increase your chances of recovery.
I have been a vegan for 23 years, and I eat relatively little (plant) protein in that time. Lately, I have been lifting weights, because I wanted to gain muscle mass and weight, and I increased my intake of plant protein.
Before I was a vegan, I was about 175 pounds from my late teens to my early/mid thirties. After I became a vegan, but before I started working out, I was at about 145 pounds for most of the next 23 years.
In about 6 months since I started working out, I gained about 16 pounds. I have increased my caloric intake. I was eating, on average about 800 to 1200 calories a day, except for times when I was training for marathons, in which I increased my carb intake, but not my protein or fat intake. Since I started working out I am eating about 2400 calories a day. A fair amount of that is a increase in seeds and nuts and beans (protein).
A great deal of research has been focused on the role of insulin-like growth factor-I and –II (IGFs) in muscle growth. The IGFs play a primary role in regulating the amount of muscle mass growth, promoting changes occurring in the DNA for protein synthesis, and promoting muscle cell repair.
Insulin also stimulates muscle growth by enhancing protein synthesis and facilitating the entry of glucose into cells. The satellite cells use glucose as a fuel substrate, thus enabling their cell growth activities. And, glucose is also used for intramuscular energy needs.
This cell growth activity due to an abundance of (mostly) animal protein (with or without exercise) is one of the primary causes of cancer cells forming. Without animal protein there is little instigation of IGF1 and little muscle growth (this is one of the reasons why vegans and raw foodists are so rail thin with negligible muscle mass), so accordingly, changes in the DNA and chances of renegade cells whose only purpose is to multiply (as opposed to healthy of cells which have a number of functions and which have a "die off" switch) are also dramatically decreased.
My point is this: if you eat only a little protein, you will limit the IGF1. I am gaining muscle, and weight, for a number of reasons; one is the increased calories, the other is the body adaptation to my resistance training, and the other is the increased protein. Without the increased protein, I may have gained only about half the amount of weight I did. Body builders gain muscle and weight for the reasons I stated above. But at the same time they are increasing their chances of getting cancer with all the animal protein most of them eat.
I understand that while I am eating increased amount of plant protein (beyond what I would consider advisable amounts), and that plant protein has a different synergistic effect in the body with the IGF1 then animal protein does, and that it does not coactive in the same way as animal protein, I am somewhat increasing my chances of getting cancer.
I am doing things with holisitc modalities to hopefully offset that, but I can't be sure. But for me the decision to take this course is a balance of personal priorities.
This is why quite a few bodybuilders are dying or getting sick (although not always necessarily cancer) at relatively young ages. The smarter ones are altering their diets to less or no animal protein when they retire or get older.
We really do no understand why people get cancer. We have some of the pieces to the puzzle, but are still missing (probably) many more. Cancer is complicated. But what we do know, should be put in action to increase our chances of a longer and healthier life.