Mental Health Medications and Christians

[4enlightment]

There is a difference between anecdotal stories and medical case studies. No one can put 100% support behind anecdotal stories. Can those situations be real? Absolutely. But they are by no means 100% factual and indicative of all cases.

But to find out the truth, since we all has been eating gmo foods for the past 2 decades, let's have a peer review by using us as the guinea pigs by having everyone not you alone with that organic diet of yours, but everyone to go organic for a couples of months to see if there is a difference in their health (drink only natural spring water as well). If there's no differences in their health, then I hope and pray for a lightning bolt comes from the sky and strike me dead.


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1 Kings 18:23 Get two bulls for us. Let Baal’s prophets choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it.

 

[JosephsDreams]

Personally, I follow the dietary laws in the Old Testament. I had a good friend who kept them most of his life and lived as healthy a life as I've seen and ate as healthy as I've ever seen. He died of throat cancer while he was still lifestyle and wasn't taking any medication. I don't say that in any way to judge or criticize him. I completely respected his decision to do that.



Bingo. I completely agree.

God cursed the ground because of man's sin. (Genesis 3:17) the food that comes from it is no longer 100% successful in keeping us healthy.

When you say OT diet, that means that your friend was not living a lifestyle conducive to a diet that is healing at a cellular level.
I am not saying that even on a ideal diet we won't get sick and die, just that our quality of life will be better and we will live longer.
And yes, even on a ideal diet one can get sick early on, but it is unusual.
The ground is cursed can mean many things, but even if it is applied as you imply, it does not negate any of what I said as far as prolonging our life, or a better quality of life in old age.
I know it, because I have either personally witnessed it, or have heard second hand from people who have.

 

[JosephsDreams]

What I am telling her is that the meds for her seizures might does work, but what causing the seizures is still in the body. And if you replace it with foods that the body doesn't rejects means that the body will not be deficient anymore that the eliminating process will be working properly eliminating what caused her to have these seizures. Then she will not need to take meds anymore. Her problem had existed from when she were a child and which what has caused the seizures had entered into the body from when she had consumed as a child or through what her mother had consumed while she was carrying her. If her drinking water had lead from the pipes that the fluoride in the water caused lead to come out from the pipes that she was still consuming and taking her meds might make it look as if it were an incurable problem. But maybe she had moved from the lead pipes during the time when gmo were put onto the market that made it look even more worst or that she had a poor diet with no nutritional value at all. I know that a well balance meal will help everything to work in harmony because there is no lack of nutrients.

People are not understanding that gmo's is not a natural affect of nature, that it should be considered as foreign substance that doesn't belong in the body. They are creating Chimera at places that they call animal pharm. They are suppose to be use for medical research to create organs and other parts of the body. But they are not telling the public about these organs that they are creating from these animals that the animals that they has implanted these organs from these chimeras, that the animal s bodies are rejecting them. And so they are giving these animals antibiotic resistance drugs (To bring down the animals defense system as an AID patients) to prevent the animals body from rejecting these organs. And so if anyone get an organ from these animals will also have to live on these meds for the rest of their life and be put on special diet that has no nutritional value at all. But the gmo foods that are rejecting and building up an defense against it as well, because that is why the majority of the people , overweight or not, are malnutrition. The reason why, is that the body is digesting it, but not absorbing it. And so it is storing it until it is eliminated.

And the mad cow disease is cause from feeding cows beef and it own poop. But now they have resolved that by feeding cows chicken instead with chicken poop with the rest of their foods. And now we are eating, if it is not organic or grass fed, sick animals as well.

It is a combination of everything that causing all of these disorders, and so the best thing to do is to go organic.

If it was only about organic, then why were people getting sick at a young age 150 years ago when there was no pesticides?

 

[JosephsDreams]

Are you saying no brain damage can be reversed?

 

[JosephsDreams]

If so, then why can people get better from concussions? How do people come out of comas when they have brain damage? How do people survive brain damage and eventually come back?

 

[4enlightment]

Ok wait just a cotton pickin' minute!! A seizure disorder is NOT a mental illness. It is a neurological disorder and can be caused by many things. In my case, I was held back at birth because the doctor wasn't there yet and the nurses wanted to wait for him, before delivering me. Therefore, I had a loss of oxygen to my brain, which created the epilepsy that I have to this very day. Was I born with brain damage? Yes I was. Am I mentally ill because I have seizures? Absolutely not.





Ok, so re-read my above post, and you'll see what's wrong with me and why and how it came about. You cannot reverse brain damage. Not with food, not with drugs. I don't care if organic food is better, it's not gonna reverse my brain damage.. Only GOD can reverse it, but for whatever reason, he prefers not to. So I embrace my brain damage, because it makes me unique. Y'all are always wondering why I'm so weird, now ya know.. lol

i remembered a joke about a man asked God why he did not help me, and God responded back that He had ignored people that he has sent them to him, but you kept on replying back to them that you are going to wait on God help. Maybe God is trying to help you and others, to make sure that this stuff to be removed from off of the earth. Because as it says in the days of Noah, in the book of Jasher, that they were creating gmo animals that were offending God and birth control, but God wanted them to be fruitful, And so , God had washed them away from His sight.. Right now, to me it seem as if it were like in the days of Noah. Well, I better get on my rooftop with an umbrella.

 

[4enlightment]

If it was only about organic, then why were people getting sick at a young age 150 years ago when there was no pesticides?

The dieting were poor at the time. They probably had only ate meat and shellfish, but weren't balanced. I know the cause of scurvy, and in order to find that out is that they must of had been so stupid of not eating anything with Vitamin C. And so whatever stupid thing that they has done beside drinking milk from a cow that had ate snake roots.

 

[blue_ladybug]

If so, then why can people get better from concussions? How do people come out of comas when they have brain damage? How do people survive brain damage and eventually come back?

Concussions occur when someone endures head trauma, and that is NOT brain damage. Nor is a coma, which is often times medically-induced so the brain can recuperate without further stress being put on it. An alzheimer's victim's brain cannot be reversed back to normal. Alzheimer's literally eats the brain.

 

[blue_ladybug]

If so, then why can people get better from concussions? How do people come out of comas when they have brain damage? How do people survive brain damage and eventually come back?

That would depend on the degree and severity of the damage. Even if they do "come back", they're never gonna be quite normal as they were before..

 

[Stephen63]

[video]https://youtu.be/hG0vfHgt76M[/video]

My, look at that HUGE Illuminati pyramid on stage! No wonder TBN has her on their show!

 

[prove-all]

8But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the
king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of
the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.

12Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat,
and water to drink.13Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and
the countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's meat: and as
thou seest, deal with thy servants.

14So he consented to them in this matter, and proved them ten days.

15And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter
in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat.

17As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in
all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.

19And the king communed with them; and among them all was found none like Daniel,
Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah: therefore stood they before the king.

20And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king enquired of them,
he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

 

[Billyd]

If you don't have an MD after your name and a license to practice medicine, stop with the medical advice.

If anyone here (or knows someone who is) is suffering from any mental health problem Consult a qualified and licensed provider. Please don't let these quacks here cause you to suffer another minute. For every person that anyone here claims to have been healed by their faith, diet, non GMO foods, etc, I can introduce you to five who have been harmed. With proper professional treatment, mental health problems can be managed and cured. DON'T USE THE INTERNET AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR HEALTH CARE!

I suffer from Epilepsy. I have spacial seizures. Without my medication, I would spend most of my time in an almost catatonic state. With it I live a normal life. One of the side effects of epileptic medications is periods of depression. Have you ever spent hours in a dark closet crying "please God not now"? My neurologist manages my depression with medication. It's wonderful. I can have a life.

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

The internet would have saved my daughters life had I consulted it before my doctor, it also would have saved me the experience I had with being wrongly prescribed to on three separate occassions.

Its not so bad

 

[keepitsimple]

If you don't have an MD after your name and a license to practice medicine, stop with the medical advice.

If anyone here (or knows someone who is) is suffering from any mental health problem Consult a qualified and licensed provider. Please don't let these quacks here cause you to suffer another minute. For every person that anyone here claims to have been healed by their faith, diet, non GMO foods, etc, I can introduce you to five who have been harmed. With proper professional treatment, mental health problems can be managed and cured. DON'T USE THE INTERNET AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR HEALTH CARE!

I suffer from Epilepsy. I have spacial seizures. Without my medication, I would spend most of my time in an almost catatonic state. With it I live a normal life. One of the side effects of epileptic medications is periods of depression. Have you ever spent hours in a dark closet crying "please God not now"? My neurologist manages my depression with medication. It's wonderful. I can have a life.

Gives me reasons to respect you more than I already did Billy. Well said my friend

 

[Angela53510]

Since we have moved onto other diseases besides mental illness, I want people to know how wrong they are that eating the right foods can cure illness or make people healthier.

From age 17, I was an organic vegetarian. I had a huge organic garden, out in the wilderness, miles from civilization. I grew all my own food - including putting up veggies for winter. I did not smoke, although I did play in bars, with second hand smoke, and I drank until God saved me almost 36 years ago.

It was after the birth of my 4th child, I started getting sick. I developed asthma and my doctor felt that the hormonal changes due to pregnancy affected my lungs. I suffered terribly, having to go to the ER daily for breathing treatments. I kept on growing my garden, and eating well, but I was really sick.

When my allergist suggested allergy shots, it seemed like the best way to get over the horrible allergies that I had developed. And it did work, probably 90% better after 7 years of shots. I was supposed to continue on them, but by that time, I had moved far from Vancouver and that allergist, and one I saw in Edmonton didn't know anything about small airway passage asthma, so I stopped the shots.

But it was too late! I messed with my auto-immune system, which might have triggered Rheumatoid Arthritis. I was treated minimally the first 6 years, and I developed terrible deformities and I pretty much gave up on life. Then I got started on a biologic, with another cancer drug, and I was better! Well, till the minor cancer drug failed, 7 years ago. I've been searching for something that works, trying to eat a lot of veggies and fruits, esp. organic, and drinking filtered water. Lots of water!

Nope! I am still sick. I do know some people that changes in diet have resulted in drastic results in treating their RA. Sadly, I am not one of those people. My rheumatologist just told me today I shouldn't expect more than I have right now, because I am by far the most severe patient he has ever had.

I don't accept that! I am going to continue to look for answers. Right now, I am in pain 24/7, and I can barely type or do anything anymore. But I know God is in control. I continue to pray for and ask for prayer for my RA. I will eat in a healthy manner. And maybe a new drug will come out and that will control the flares?

In the meantime, I am happy that dietary changes have helped some. But that doesn't work for us all, and it is really hard hearing those pat answers when we have been doing all the right things. Like someone is stabbing us in the back, so to speak!

 

[JosephsDreams]

If you don't have an MD after your name and a license to practice medicine, stop with the medical advice.

If anyone here (or knows someone who is) is suffering from any mental health problem Consult a qualified and licensed provider. Please don't let these quacks here cause you to suffer another minute. For every person that anyone here claims to have been healed by their faith, diet, non GMO foods, etc, I can introduce you to five who have been harmed. With proper professional treatment, mental health problems can be managed and cured. DON'T USE THE INTERNET AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR HEALTH CARE!

I suffer from Epilepsy. I have spacial seizures. Without my medication, I would spend most of my time in an almost catatonic state. With it I live a normal life. One of the side effects of epileptic medications is periods of depression. Have you ever spent hours in a dark closet crying "please God not now"? My neurologist manages my depression with medication. It's wonderful. I can have a life.

Your thoughts may be with good intentions, but your displaying your ignorance. But then again your 74 years old. Your just parroting what your generation knows.
Your day is almost past. There is a reason the younger people have more knowledge about lifestyle on one hand then you do in your whole body.
It is largely because of your generations experimentation with pesticides, and drug treatments they come to the conclusions they have. Why we have had a complete turn around in how we view diet and lifestyle.
Your generation laughed at people who jogged. You looked at weight lifters as odd balls.
It was your generation that spurred the hippie movement. The younger people had a more finely tuned innate grasp of why this country was failing then its parents did.
It was your kids that began to question things. They asked why are blacks being treated so disgracefully. Why did we have to go to Vietnam. Why can't woman be treated as equals.
And now you want to rant about the god like powers of MD's. But no surprise, because to your ilk, they and the United States government could do never do any harm. Never lie nor mislead you.
You have seen your day, and I for one am glad we are coming out of those dark ages when people who viewed the human body holistically were treated like the witches were at Salem. Your way of thinking about nutrition and biological healing is archaic.
I am glad things are working out for you. It is true, you don't know what you don't know.
Ignorance is bliss.

 

[JosephsDreams]

I never said it is a miracle cure all for everyone all the time. But the odds are that for most people, there will be improvement of some sort, and even outright close to if not 100% healing of many ailments.
I keep saying it. People who think they eat well, do not. It is that simple. Not well enough to go into cellular healing. I have spoken to many people over the years. My friend, who is in his 80's is a doctor, a ND, and has had over 10,000 clients/patients has told me the same thing.
Obviously some people have to do different things from a dietary standpoint depending on their problem, so let me generalize. It is not enough to just go Organic. Going vegetarian for a relatively short period of time may not do it either. For some people it has to be life time commitment. Interesting that not one person here has asked me what are the general dietary guidelines. I have heard organic, vegetarianism, and non GMO.
I am not being critical, as some of this to some people is radical. But just by what some of you are saying indicates to me that you really don't understand what must be done. And most of you here that think you may have tried it did not do what needed to be done to go into remedial healing. So you say it doesn't work, but you never really did it.
And again, I am not saying it cures everyone all the time.
I am saying that God made our bodies in way we still can not really understand, and it has amazing biological healing capabilities if given the opportunity.
It is the body that heals. Meds have their place. I am not suggesting anyone should stop taking them. Some people need to be on them for life. But many don't. They have us hooked. And we are not taking enough responsibility for our own bodies. That God created. The USA is the place I want to be for trauma. But stop and think.
I think it is something about 30,000 people die a year because of prescription meds complications. Last time I checked.
We are the most heavily medicated country in the world. Our quality of life in our later years is terrible. So we live longer, but we are franken-med-people.
The prescription drug companies are getting rich beyond belief. The world health organization has the USA rated, I think it is, like number 20 in overall quality of care and health. Yet we are the country that spends the most, by far. I think there is no 5 countries that spend what we do.
Doesn't anyone see a problem with med overuse and dependence? And we are to blame. Because we are no educated about it, because some of us are addicted to the foods we eat, and can't alter our diets, and some of us don't believe diet and lifestyle plays a major role in this.

 

[Willie-T]

Your thoughts may be with good intentions, but your displaying your ignorance. But then again your 74 years old. Your just parroting what your generation knows.
Your day is almost past. There is a reason the younger people have more knowledge about lifestyle on one hand then you do in your whole body.
It is largely because of your generations experimentation with pesticides, and drug treatments they come to the conclusions they have. Why we have had a complete turn around in how we view diet and lifestyle.
Your generation laughed at people who jogged. You looked at weight lifters as odd balls.
It was your generation that spurred the hippie movement. The younger people had a more finely tuned innate grasp of why this country was failing then its parents did.
It was your kids that began to question things. They asked why are blacks being treated so disgracefully. Why did we have to go to Vietnam. Why can't woman be treated as equals.
And now you want to rant about the god like powers of MD's. But no surprise, because to your ilk, they and the United States government could do never do any harm. Never lie nor mislead you.
You have seen your day, and I for one am glad we are coming out of those dark ages when people who viewed the human body holistically were treated like the witches were at Salem. Your way of thinking about nutrition and biological healing is archaic.
I am glad things are working out for you. It is true, you don't know what you don't know.
Ignorance is bliss.

Joe, I think you missed a generation. LOL You spent that whole rant talking about my parents.

I believe you were just born during the Civil Rights Movement. LOL

 

[4enlightment]

My, look at that HUGE Illuminati pyramid on stage! No wonder TBN has her on their show!

Well, I see that it is on our money, but no one will not throw them away and or exchange them for nickels and dimes. I guess we all are Illuminati when it comes to money.

 

[keepitsimple]

Your thoughts may be with good intentions, but your displaying your ignorance. But then again your 74 years old. Your just parroting what your generation knows.
Your day is almost past. There is a reason the younger people have more knowledge about lifestyle on one hand then you do in your whole body.
It is largely because of your generations experimentation with pesticides, and drug treatments they come to the conclusions they have. Why we have had a complete turn around in how we view diet and lifestyle.
Your generation laughed at people who jogged. You looked at weight lifters as odd balls.
It was your generation that spurred the hippie movement. The younger people had a more finely tuned innate grasp of why this country was failing then its parents did.
It was your kids that began to question things. They asked why are blacks being treated so disgracefully. Why did we have to go to Vietnam. Why can't woman be treated as equals.
And now you want to rant about the god like powers of MD's. But no surprise, because to your ilk, they and the United States government could do never do any harm. Never lie nor mislead you.
You have seen your day, and I for one am glad we are coming out of those dark ages when people who viewed the human body holistically were treated like the witches were at Salem. Your way of thinking about nutrition and biological healing is archaic.
I am glad things are working out for you. It is true, you don't know what you don't know.
Ignorance is bliss.

Well now .. wasn't this a wonderful response ? "your day is almost past" .. "you have seen your day" .. "younger people have more knowledge about lifestyle on one hand then you do in your whole body" .. "your displaying your ignorance" .. "then again, you're 74 yrs. old" .. "and now you want to rant about the god like powers of MD's" .. etc. etc. etc. So wise and all knowing Joseph ... give us all your holistic cure for Billy's lifetime of severe epileptic seizures. And while you're at it, include your remedy for the horrific depression and anxiety that the vast array of chronic illnesses carry with them. If you knew what they felt like, you would never talk to anybody that does in this manner again. For the record, you come across as a pathetic excuse for a christian and even less a human being. That's the least you deserve ... and the best you're gonna get.