Are you able to comprehend simple sentences? If so, then here is the promise broken down:
"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."
* Jesus descends from heaven
* Those who have died in Christ will rise first
* After the dead are resurrected, then those who are sill alive will be changed and caught up with them.
The information above is very clear in its meaning and is not debatable. The timing of this event aside, that the event its self is going to take place just as it is written is not debatable. If it is, it is only because you are ignoring what it being said in the scripture.
"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."
* Jesus descends from heaven
* Those who have died in Christ will rise first
* After the dead are resurrected, then those who are sill alive will be changed and caught up with them.
The information above is very clear in its meaning and is not debatable. The timing of this event aside, that the event its self is going to take place just as it is written is not debatable. If it is, it is only because you are ignoring what it being said in the scripture.
Your response doesn't address all of my other points.
You spent time addressing the one Scripture I said was debatable. It's meaning might be clear to you, but it is by no means a consensus, or even close to it.
I still side with the "no rapture crowd."
You spent time addressing the one Scripture I said was debatable. It's meaning might be clear to you, but it is by no means a consensus, or even close to it.
I still side with the "no rapture crowd."