The AntiDepressant Conundrum

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JosephsDreams

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If you like super hero movies, I saw the Cap movie tonight. It was real good. I am on Caps side btw. You can't choose the govt over your friends. Stark is a two timer.
 

JosephsDreams

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I am going to sleep. Have a good night LP.
 

tourist

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I am a native NYer transplanted to VT. But one day God will permit me to leave this place. Its so cold in the winter my pastor calls us the chosen frozen. But I don't like football anymore. Go NY Mets.
I recently did an 8 year stretch in Maine so I'm all set with being frozen. That was one God-forsaken place.
 
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Hi,

To answer your ? what do you really need to know . Types of dose rate are male and female the same in how they react to your body do some people reject them body wise = not work or cause other issues then theres can you mix the meds or will one over power the other , what will work and what wont .

who should take them and for what reason give me a clear idear of what you need to know I can answer in some detail not in all of cause just whats in my 42 years of working with some one and with out = some meds= the person would be dead as ,

Doing a poll is pointless as it does not relate to many people and theres well over 40 meds I can detail I wont as no point that's just a few for depression then related meds to them 1000 or so

Do a poll on 1000 people youll have a better idear and then theres age of the people and that's another can of worms ,

Ask direct ?,s then I,ll have an idear .

...noeleena...
 

JennaLeanne

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We are all a different stages aren't we, I think it's dangerous to have an opinion on something like this that is so black and white... I was on antidepressants since i was a teenager.. I have now been off them for 2 years, This is only down to the grace of God and me trusting in and renewing my mind based on his word... We should always be lead by the holy spirit concerning these things... He knows us individually :) Bless u xxx
 
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JustWhoIAm

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We are all a different stages aren't we, I think it's dangerous to have an opinion on something like this that is so black and white... I was on antidepressants since i was a teenager.. I have now been off them for 2 years, This is only down to the grace of God and me trusting in and renewing my mind based on his word... We should always be lead by the holy spirit concerning these things... He knows us individually :) Bless u xxx
You look like my sister.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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Sorry. My HALF sister. Dad only knows where my actual father went (probably dead).
 
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coby2

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I got oxazepam and remeron for 2 years. First prozac which resulted in a suicide attempt when they doubled the dose.
Sometimes I feel like I'm 80. I just don't know words anymore. On internet I can look it up but irl I say where is that thing? What thing? That thing thing!! My son knows exactly what I mean luckily.
My dad had a delirium and it was over but she didn't believe it, because he didn't know what a pen was. Oh but that's normal.
 
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blue_ladybug

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I think relying on God is without question, the number 1 best option. A lot of people do rely on chemical help though. I mean, I don't want to take away from their power, its just... You're putting it in perspective for me. God can change you to meet your needs, just seek him first. :D
Read my depression thread.. You'll see how I overcame my depression. :)
 

JosephsDreams

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Hi,

To answer your ? what do you really need to know . Types of dose rate are male and female the same in how they react to your body do some people reject them body wise = not work or cause other issues then theres can you mix the meds or will one over power the other , what will work and what wont .

who should take them and for what reason give me a clear idear of what you need to know I can answer in some detail not in all of cause just whats in my 42 years of working with some one and with out = some meds= the person would be dead as ,

Doing a poll is pointless as it does not relate to many people and theres well over 40 meds I can detail I wont as no point that's just a few for depression then related meds to them 1000 or so

Do a poll on 1000 people youll have a better idear and then theres age of the people and that's another can of worms ,

Ask direct ?,s then I,ll have an idear .

...noeleena...
It sounds like you may be a nurse or a doctor...Very informative.
 
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I would tell a Diabetic (type 2) To SERIOUSLY change their diet, and SERIOUSLY start hitting the gym in a big way. Then I would tell them to keep cutting down and purify your body a little bit more every day until you can eventually fast, and cleanse yourself... Reversing your type 2 Diabetes... and yes, Relying on God. I don't know much about insulin use in type 1 Diabetes, but I do know that fasting is a form of self preservation, and God designed us to be able to control our own health. Not NEEDING to rely on those who make a REDICULOUS living off of serving their "treatments" to people at an outrageous and unaffordable price.
I had in mind type I diabetes, I see I should have been more clear. My grandmother was type 1, her body didn't produce enough insulin...it was not a condition brought on by poor diet or lack of exercise. However, the underlying point of the diabetes and asthma examples was to hopefully illustrate taking medication for a condition doesn't make you any less faithful or Christian, which is essentially what you imply when you say something like this:

I think relying on God is without question, the number 1 best option. A lot of people do rely on chemical help though. I mean, I don't want to take away from their power, its just... You're putting it in perspective for me. God can change you to meet your needs, just seek him first. :D

You say this in your original post:
I really don't know how to feel about that stuff. Whether or not its useful, or complete poison. What do you guys think?
But you definitely have a bias here.

Depression, anxiety, ptsd, bipolar - they are more than just "boo hoo i'm sad/mad/scared"...for many people, medication gives them just enough quality of life to go about their day and function....just like folks who take medication for physical ailments.

I'm not saying by any means that medication is a cure-all...just don't be so quick to make assumptions on a person's relationship with God if they are receiving treatment for mental illness.
 

JosephsDreams

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The weather influences my moods often enough. But that is probably so with a lot of people. So does not getting enough sleep. And the main thing that has gotten me down most of life, when I do get down, which thankfully is not to much or for to long, is relationship stuff. Especially when I know I did something wrong and am at fault. Just bugs the heck out of me.
But really never having been depressed for any length or with any depth, I can not even imagine how crippling it must be for some people. I truly do feel for them. And I admire and respect anyone who can decrease or eliminate it, be from pray, diet, meds, or a combo.
The bottom line is it has become something that is not incapacitating in someones life, so even if its by singing a song of hope every morning...
 

JosephsDreams

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I had in mind type I diabetes, I see I should have been more clear. My grandmother was type 1, her body didn't produce enough insulin...it was not a condition brought on by poor diet or lack of exercise. However, the underlying point of the diabetes and asthma examples was to hopefully illustrate taking medication for a condition doesn't make you any less faithful or Christian, which is essentially what you imply when you say something like this:




You say this in your original post:


But you definitely have a bias here.

Depression, anxiety, ptsd, bipolar - they are more than just "boo hoo i'm sad/mad/scared"...for many people, medication gives them just enough quality of life to go about their day and function....just like folks who take medication for physical ailments.

I'm not saying by any means that medication is a cure-all...just don't be so quick to make assumptions on a person's relationship with God if they are receiving treatment for mental illness.
It doesn't matter if someone eats only Burger King and nothing else everyday (I would not recommend that though) or if they are on chemo, or 2 or 3 different psychotropic drugs, or if they mumble to themselves while they shop. It does not imply anything about them being less of a Christian.
I have learned long ago, some Christians that are the most peculiar and strange people you'll ever meet can be the most sanctified or consecrated Christians you'll ever know or meet.
Didn't the people say we are a set apart and peculiar people? We are not of this world. We're going to seem a little different tot he world, and maybe sometimes even to each other.
That is not what defines us. It is our relationship with and love for, Jesus, and our love for each other, and even the world.
 

blue_ladybug

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I would just like to point out that not ALL people who have depression are mentally ill. For most, life events trigger depression. Mine did..
 

JennaLeanne

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Someone on here just gave me a reputation comment. Please can whoever it was inbox me so I can say thankyou... Or just receive my thanks here. You have blessed me :)
 
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Everyones in need of God's healing and restoration, one way or another. When we come to the Lord we come with baggage, each and everyone one of us, but we all cope with and deal with our brokeness differently.

As I walk with the Lord through a voyage of discovery, learning who He is to me and who I am to Him, He addresses me as son and I address Him as father.

We all need to grow into the fullness of the identity He has for us. That's why I take comfort in this pslam, because I am assured He will restore my soul.

Psalm 23 1-3

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He makes me lie down in green pastures.
He leads me beside still waters.[a]
3 He restores my soul.
 

JennaLeanne

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Everyones in need of God's healing and restoration, one way or another. When we come to the Lord we come with baggage, each and everyone one of us, but we all cope with and deal with our brokeness differently.

As I walk with the Lord through a voyage of discovery, learning who He is to me and who I am to Him, He addresses me as son and I address Him as father.

We all need to grow into the fullness of the identity He has for us. That's why I take comfort in this pslam, because I am assured He will restore my soul.

Psalm 23 1-3

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He makes me lie down in green pastures.
He leads me beside still waters.[a]
3 He restores my soul.

Amen. Beautiful x
 

JosephsDreams

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Years ago a Christian friend of mine told me probably every Christian should have that Pslam memorized.