Is the Devil bound right now...?

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Is Satan bound right now?


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I guess I hit the hammer right on the nail; the group of men's doctrines among Christianity that do not accept a literal, bodily return of our Lord Jesus is especially the Full Preterist crowd.
I'll ask again...

Where is the scripture that states Jesus' corporeal return...?

Simple enough...
 
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I can't imaging how anyone could actually think that we are currently living in the millennial kingdom.
I can't imagine how anyone, even remotely familiar with scripture, could deny that we are in the 1K year reign.
 
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RobbyEarl

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I can't imagine how anyone, even remotely familiar with scripture, could deny that we are in the 1K year reign.
Okay I will stupidly step in again. Is Jesus sitting on the throne in Jerusalem? No He is not and therefore we cannot be in the 1K reign.
 
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RobbyEarl

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secondly in the 1K reign people don't die, my wife's mother a child of God just passed away and buried on April the 1, 2016.
 
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RobbyEarl

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If y'all are reading this stuff let it be known that RobbyEarl has warned you. Jesus Died for Bowman and will accept Him, but the bible is clear that a false prophet will be accursed. I pray that Bowman see's the light and comes out of this doctrine of devils. Yes Satan wants you to think that he is bound, he is the great deceiver. I pray for you bowman.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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If y'all are reading this stuff let it be known that RobbyEarl has warned you. Jesus Died for Bowman and will accept Him, but the bible is clear that a false prophet will be accursed. I pray that Bowman see's the light and comes out of this doctrine of devils. Yes Satan wants you to think that he is bound, he is the great deceiver. I pray for you bowman.
Explain the charges of false prophecy, please. What are your grounds?

This appears to be a debate forum.
 
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If y'all are reading this stuff let it be known that RobbyEarl has warned you. Jesus Died for Bowman and will accept Him, but the bible is clear that a false prophet will be accursed. I pray that Bowman see's the light and comes out of this doctrine of devils. Yes Satan wants you to think that he is bound, he is the great deceiver. I pray for you bowman.
Satan has already fooled you.

You praise him for power that he does not have....and, at the same time, diminish Jesus' work at The Cross.
 
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Armini3

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gotta hand it to ya I love how you were quick to explain and underline (your view/interpretation ) at the end there separating the "church" from the tribulation believers will save that forever continuing discussion for another thread tho....:)
Hi John,

Yes, the people during the thousand year reign of Christ will see His face and that because he will be here physically ruling from Jerusalem from the throne of King David.

"Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson? Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength? “It is I, proclaiming victory, mighty to save.” Why are your garments red, like those of one treading the winepress? “I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing. It was for me the day of vengeance; the year for me to redeem had come. I looked, but there was no one to help, I was appalled that no one gave support; so my own arm achieved salvation for me, and my own wrath sustained me. I trampled the nations in my anger; in my wrath I made them drunk and poured their blood on the ground.”


"On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him."

"Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

"Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war. He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is The Word of God.
The armies of heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and pure, follow Him on white horses. And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God, the Almighty. And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh:

King of kings and Lord of lords.

Now, before anyone confuses or misinterprets the scriptures above, these are all prophecies regarding the Lord's return to the earth when He ends the age and establishes His millennial kingdom and where at which time is when Satan will be bound in the Abyss. The above prophesies ARE NOT referring to the gathering of the church, which will have taken place several years earlier.

 
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Satan has already fooled you.

You praise him for power that he does not have....and, at the same time, diminish Jesus' work at The Cross.
Bowman Jesus loves you and died on a tree that you might be saved, while you hated Him, He died for you anyway. I may not be a theologian nor a prophet, just a door keeper in the house of God and even the prodigal, but I know my shepherds voice. We are told to test the spirits and your message don't pass. Notice i said your message and not you. I will not attack you only your message, for Christ died for you as well as me.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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How could victory be ruling from the throne of jerusalem physically with A) no one to help him from any of the nations and B) if the mount of olives is outside jerusalem?

(Olives. Blech. My family used to try to make me me eat those things even though i hated them *puke*. Scapegoat me. And what sucks is that i have a HUGE family i didn't even know about until recently. There are like 12 families or so outside of this immediate one. But they're all jewish or something i think. Thank heaven for the internet keeping me occupied and sane. At least i have great hair.)
 
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RobbyEarl

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How could victory be ruling from the throne of jerusalem physically with A) no one to help him from any of the nations and B) if the mount of olives is outside jerusalem?

(Olives. Blech. My family used to try to make me me eat those things even though i hated them *puke*. Scapegoat me. And what sucks is that i have a HUGE family i didn't even know about until recently. There are like 12 families or so outside of this immediate one. But they're all jewish or something i think. Thank heaven for the internet keeping me occupied and sane. At least i have great hair.)
May God bless you, I have a friend who has 7 children and none of them are his and he has no children of his own. They were given to him by the death of his first wife who already had children before they were married and the His sister died who had three children and He took them in and His new wife already had a child. so this man praise God is raising 7 children and none are His own. May god bless Him and prosper the works of his hands. Dude just hold on, God will bless you.
 

Ahwatukee

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Hello garee,

I think it must be asked what is he bound from doing.? Assembling with the angels that have not left their first place estate?


If I may, it is stated right in the same scripture as to why Satan is bound in the Abyss:

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He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. "


Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.


The scripture above is speaking of the same group of angels that Peter was speaking about:

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For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to Tartaroo putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;"

Both Jude and Peter are speaking about the angels, those son's of God mentioned in Gen.6:1 who took human wives and conceived giants, also known as the offspring of the watchers of heaven. These angels who took wives and defiled themselves are those whom God has reserved in chains of darkness i.e. Tartaroo, until the day of judgment. To be clear, Jude and Peter are not speaking of Satan and those angels who originally rebelled with him, for they are out and about in heaven and in the earth.

Satan's literal restriction in the Abyss will take place at the end of that last seven years when Christ returns to the earth to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom. Satan and his angels will be cast out of heaven around the middle part of the seven years, where he will know that his time is short and that because from the time that he is cast out he knows that he will only have 3 1/2 years left before Christ returns and he is thrown into the Abyss.

 

Ahwatukee

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Okay I will stupidly step in again. Is Jesus sitting on the throne in Jerusalem? No He is not and therefore we cannot be in the 1K reign.
Hello RobbyEarl,

Again, this is directed at Bowman. The reason why we can deny that we are currently not living during the thousand year reign of Christ is because Christ is not here on earth and ruling from Jerusalem and scripture says that he will be. Also, none of the events of wrath that precede Christ's return have yet taken place. The only way that they can make us as currently living in the millennial kingdom is to wave their magic preterist wand and poof! We just got rid of that pesky literal stuff.
 

Ahwatukee

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Satan has already fooled you.

You praise him for power that he does not have....and, at the same time, diminish Jesus' work at The Cross.

Hello RobbyEarl,

This is again directed at Bowman:

No one has diminished Jesus work on the cross. He met the righteous requirements of the law on our behalf, freeing us from the law which gave/gives sin its power. And He paid the penalty for our sins, freeing us from condemning judgment. By His work on the cross he defeated the powers of darkness triumphing over them by taking away their ammunition, which was the law. However, Rev.20:1-3 is speaking of a literal event that will take place when Christ returns to the earth to end the age where Satan will literally be thrown into the literal location of the Abyss for a literal thousand years. It is because of your spiritualization of the scriptures that you don't understand this.
 

Dan_473

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I think that was the very first time that I have ever witnessed you posting any scripture at all in the 1K+ replies that you have made.

Keep up the good work!
thanks for the compliment!

I have posted scripture quotes much more recently than 1,000 posts ago. I'm not sure why you haven't seen them.


but you are correct in that I do try to avoid excessive scripture quoting.

as Ecclesiastes said,
there is "a time to be silent and a time to speak."

and,
God has "made everything beautiful in its time."


imo, excessive scripture quoting blunts the force of the scriptures being quoted.
 
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Hello RobbyEarl,

Again, this is directed at Bowman. The reason why we can deny that we are currently not living during the thousand year reign of Christ is because Christ is not here on earth and ruling from Jerusalem and scripture says that he will be. Also, none of the events of wrath that precede Christ's return have yet taken place. The only way that they can make us as currently living in the millennial kingdom is to wave their magic preterist wand and poof! We just got rid of that pesky literal stuff.
Show us the scripture that states this.
 
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Hello RobbyEarl,

This is again directed at Bowman:

No one has diminished Jesus work on the cross. He met the righteous requirements of the law on our behalf, freeing us from the law which gave/gives sin its power. And He paid the penalty for our sins, freeing us from condemning judgment. By His work on the cross he defeated the powers of darkness triumphing over them by taking away their ammunition, which was the law. However, Rev.20:1-3 is speaking of a literal event that will take place when Christ returns to the earth to end the age where Satan will literally be thrown into the literal location of the Abyss for a literal thousand years. It is because of your spiritualization of the scriptures that you don't understand this.
Scripture is clear.

Satan is already bound.

Embrace it.
 

Dan_473

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I'm not a Furturist either.

That doesn't mean I don't have enough common sense to realize God's Word declares a literal physical bodily return of our Lord Jesus back to this earth, as written, and at the same time I know that still has yet to happen today.


wait, there's folks who don't believe in a a literal physical bodily return of Jesus?

I know the jehovah's witnesses think Jesus came invisibly in 1914... but some non-jw's think that too?