When others use Gods name in vain

[Mooky]

Hi all,

Just wondering what you do when someone in your company uses our Lords name in vain or as a cuss word.
It has often shocked and surprised me to even hear professing christians doing this and it angers me profoundly that in one breath they call on His name for help and aid and in the next breath dishonour him by casually using His name as an expletive.

And then there is the issue of non believers who do this.I have one such person in my life who frequently desecrates His holy name when angry, surprised or shocked but because I am trying to win her over to Christ I am not sure how I can tell her that I find this highly offensive and view it as a personal injury especially since this is the Name by which I have been saved.

And why is it that when someone injures their thumb with a hammer names such as " Hare Krishna" ," Mohammed" or " Bhudda" are exempt from being a word of derision?

Anyway, I am looking for pointers on how to confront people on this terrible sin while maintaining the balance of being firm yet still being winsome and conveying love.
Thanks!

 

[Sirk]

Hi all,

Just wondering what you do when someone in your company uses our Lords name in vain or as a cuss word.
It has often shocked and surprised me to even hear professing christians doing this and it angers me profoundly that in one breath they call on His name for help and aid and in the next breath dishonour him by casually using His name as an expletive.

And then there is the issue of non believers who do this.I have one such person in my life who frequently desecrates His holy name when angry, surprised or shocked but because I am trying to win her over to Christ I am not sure how I can tell her that I find this highly offensive and view it as a personal injury especially since this is the Name by which I have been saved.

And why is it that when someone injures their thumb with a hammer names such as " Hare Krishna" ," Mohammed" or " Bhudda" are exempt from being a word of derision?

Anyway, I am looking for pointers on how to confront people on this terrible sin while maintaining the balance of being firm yet still being winsome and conveying love.
Thanks!

It's not my responsibility to change others. If cussing crosses a boundary for you when others do it, I would question whether it is a legitimate boundary or if you're just too sensitive. If it's the former then it'd be better to associate yourself with people who have pure lips.

 

[Mooky]

Sirk! I think you are mistaken.If you profess to love Christ then wouldn't you want to defend His honour? Or maybe you are just another lukewarm pew warmer.

 

[WarriorForChrist]

Sirk! I think you are mistaken.If you profess to love Christ then wouldn't you want to defend His honour? Or maybe you are just another lukewarm pew warmer.

If it is in a work place I would let them know that it is offensive. If I am out in public I just do what I can do from following people who say these things. My son is constantly correcting people who say OMG. I even tell him it isn't ok to say Oh My Gosh. I try to explain to my son that he shouldn't constantly correct other kids because they don't know better since their parents aren't teaching them the ways we teach him.

 

[Tintin]

Sirk! I think you are mistaken.If you profess to love Christ then wouldn't you want to defend His honour? Or maybe you are just another lukewarm pew warmer.

Really? Don't go there. You don't know him, so don't presume to know where he stands. From where I stand, The Sirk is a committed Christian. He's offering perspective. I'm sure he doesn't like it either when people dishonour God's name, but he also realises that there's not a whole lot he can do about it.

 

[WarriorForChrist]

Sirk! I think you are mistaken.If you profess to love Christ then wouldn't you want to defend His honour? Or maybe you are just another lukewarm pew warmer.

Yeah this was a bit harsh and uncalled for. I think Jesus can defend Himself just fine. I'll add another point, if I know the person is a self proclaiming Christian and using the Lords name in vane or cursing like a sailor then I will call them out on it. My father is real bad about cursing in front of my kid and he is a Christian. I call him out on it all the time.

 

[Mooky]

^ I understand.But can you imagine how the Muslims would carry on if the name of their prophet was defamed? Why can' t we christians speak up when Gods holy name is misused?Someone I know reckons that this is one of the reasons why society is becoming so wicked.As the saying goes ," Evil prospers when good men do nothing."

 

[Gr8grace]

Hi all,

Just wondering what you do when someone in your company uses our Lords name in vain or as a cuss word.
It has often shocked and surprised me to even hear professing christians doing this and it angers me profoundly that in one breath they call on His name for help and aid and in the next breath dishonour him by casually using His name as an expletive.

And then there is the issue of non believers who do this.I have one such person in my life who frequently desecrates His holy name when angry, surprised or shocked but because I am trying to win her over to Christ I am not sure how I can tell her that I find this highly offensive and view it as a personal injury especially since this is the Name by which I have been saved.

And why is it that when someone injures their thumb with a hammer names such as " Hare Krishna" ," Mohammed" or " Bhudda" are exempt from being a word of derision?

Anyway, I am looking for pointers on how to confront people on this terrible sin while maintaining the balance of being firm yet still being winsome and conveying love.
Thanks!

Using the Lords name in vain is not some superficial cuss word. people cuss and are crude............the Lord is not really worried about that, in fact the Lord himself used some pretty harsh language.

Using the Lord's name in vain........is not believing in the character and nature of who and what God is. His Name is His person and who and what He has done for us. Not some word or phrase that may seem crude to us.

New American Standard Bible
"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

 

[Mooky]

the Lord is not really worried about that, in fact the Lord himself used some pretty harsh language.



New American Standard Bible
"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

Hmm.But what about the 4th commandment?

 

[Mooky]

Really? Don't go there. You don't know him, so don't presume to know where he stands. From where I stand, The Sirk is a committed Christian. He's offering perspective. I'm sure he doesn't like it either when people dishonour God's name, but he also realises that there's not a whole lot he can do about it.

Point taken.I apologise for jumping to conclusions.

 

[Sirk]

Sirk! I think you are mistaken.If you profess to love Christ then wouldn't you want to defend His honour? Or maybe you are just another lukewarm pew warmer.

I just try to keep myself from being stained by the world. God doesn't need me to defend him....I can't imagine Joseph correcting Potiphar all the time when he offended his religious sensibilities.

 

[1ofthem]

My friends and people that I know will normally apologize to me if they take the Lord's name in vain in front of me because they know I'm a Christian. I don't have to say a thing to them about it.

When I hear it from strangers in public, I don't stop and call them out on it because I would probably just make it worse. They would probably just cuss me out or something. The only way that I would say anything to a stranger would be if I felt the Lord wanted me too, and then I would only say what he wanted me to say.

I know we are supposed to be fishers of men, but God is the one who knows how to catch all men. He is able to draw all men unto him because he knows their hearts and exactly what they need to hear. If we go out and use our own words and our own ways then we cannot help anyone in anyway. We would just be wasting our time. Just like the disciple did when they had been fishing all night with their net cast on the wrong side...But when they listened to Jesus and cast on the right side they caught so many fish that the weren't even able to pull it in.

They were just wasting their time until Jesus was in it. We have to be led of Jesus to help others find him. IMO, If we do it on our own we are just wasting our time and breath and might even make things worse.

 

[Blain]

Mooky sadly in this world we live in hearing and being around cussing and people taking his name in vain is unavoidable unless you want to go live in the mountains all by yourself, the internet movies t.v. and people all around us there just no escaping it as we live in a crude and perverted generation.
If you think you have it bad I live with a room mate in whom is very vulgar he cusses all the time he has a very perverted and dirty mind and is always speaking is sexual disgusting and vile ways he constantly cusses makes fun of me and my God doesn't care how I feel or cares to listen if I ask him not to act and speak this way he is very quick to anger and will not hesitate to let it loose on me and the sad thing is there nothing I can do about it as I do not have the means to live anywwhere else or get a new room mate so I am around this 24/7

The bible discussion forum is one of war of name calling it is known as the war zone the blood arena and I can debate and speak even under extremely heavy fire here in a calm mature and Christlike manner because the bdf doesn't even begin to compare with what i face everyday and yet even though I do have moments of weakness I am constantly responding to him in a calm kind and mature way I don't allow my emotions to control me or let anger into my heart and even when anger arises for the most part I refuse to speak from anger.

So consider my situation if you will

 

[Gr8grace]

Hmm.But what about the 4th commandment?

What about it?

But taking the Lords name in vain is not a cuss word or using the Phrase "Jesus Christ" as a cuss word.

Taking/using the Lords name in vain is not utilizing what the Lord has provided for mankind.

Unbelief is taking/using the Lords name in vain. Not saying Jesus Christ or god damn it.

 

[Blain]

What about it?

But taking the Lords name in vain is not a cuss word or using the Phrase "Jesus Christ" as a cuss word.

Taking/using the Lords name in vain is not utilizing what the Lord has provided for mankind.

Unbelief is taking/using the Lords name in vain. Not saying Jesus Christ or god damn it.

I think whether it is cussing or not is in the eye of the beholder, in my view saying his name like that is in fact cussing and taking his name in vain but I have a habit of saying Oh my God and many would consider this both cussing and taking his name in vain so I cannot throw a stone

 

[Mooky]

Blain, I hear you.I too have a difficult room mate.I have no choice but to love her and grow.She is the one who uses Gods name in vain.Your situation does sound more challenging than mine though.Lets trust that God is working our situations out for our good.

 

[Gr8grace]

I think whether it is cussing or not is in the eye of the beholder, in my view saying his name like that is in fact cussing and taking his name in vain but I have a habit of saying Oh my God and many would consider this both cussing and taking his name in vain so I cannot throw a stone

It is cussing. But that is not taking the Lord's name in vain. It is just being crude and rude.

Taking the Lords name in vain is not believing in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ.Its all vanity without Him as a personal Savior.

 

[PennEd]

Gr8grace I think, is on the right track to what taking the Lord's name in vain means.

I heard a Pastor say that if WE call ourselves by His Name (Christians), and act in a manner that is un-Christ-like, then WE are taking His Name in Vain, and seems to me to be a much greater offense than merely saying G.. D....

 

[Blain]

Blain, I hear you.I too have a difficult room mate.I have no choice but to love her and grow.She is the one who uses Gods name in vain.Your situation does sound more challenging than mine though.Lets trust that God is working our situations out for our good.

he already has used my situation for my good, although I would love to live in a much more Christian place I am constantly being tested constantly having my skin thickened constantly having the choice to either express my feelings and my anger which is of course extremely tempting or show instead humbleness patience and love.

Believe me I have much to say and express to him I very much want to let my anger loose and let him have it but this is not the path I chose the path I chose is one of only the deepest love for God with God and for all others i don't care what the cost is what I have to go through what I have suffer lose or sacrifice when I became I christian I spoke my heart God and I made a promise to him that I was not after an ordinary love and relationship with him I swore I would be Love above all else no matter how far he and I have to go I am even willing to go so far as to burn in the very fires of hell itself for the sake of just one lost child no matter how dark or cold and evil their hearts no matter how blood stained their souls or what they have done the Love I am after will compel me to go that far for just one of them because I saw how far Jesus was willing to go for us and he would have done all of that a thousand times over for just one of us if he had to.

If this is the cost if this is what I have to go through for the Love I am after then I have it easy, the bond and Love I am after with him for him and for others is a dangerous one because it very well could cost me and I very well may have to suffer greatly and intensely and I very well may have to prove my words but I accepted the cost from the beginning.

 

[Mooky]

^Thanks for your input ,guys.Will ask my pastor about this.