Hell. It is in the Bible isnt it?

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MsSuzanna

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kaylagrl said:
Yes,that is true. Once I wrote it I thought about it. There are about two men I trust to send a PM to here. I know they know my intentions are pure and I know they are the same. But usually I dont accept PMs from males for long. I bring up my marriage about two PMs in and everyone has gotten the message and left me alone. So I do see your point there.
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I will not even open a PM from someone who has been so nasty to me on the forums. The way I see it,if they will treat me badly in public,the PM is way too private. I have lost any trust in those who persistently rail on me.
I did mean it when I said God bless you to the three I said it to!
It is only an enemy who would treat me as some have on these threads. I do consider them an enemy to the truth and Christ. I had them on iggy and took them off. I put them back on and will keep it that way. Im not itching for a fight in fact it makes me sick to my stomach. Weak men do not particularly like strong women. I know this to be true. Also,those who do not like the whole truth of Gods word do not like it when truth is posted. I can stand! But I have given it enough tries that I really have shook the dust off.


Mark 6:11
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that place, as a testimony against them."
 
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Gr8grace said:
Hebrews 9:27 (NASB95)
27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,
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And then what? The second death,.

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having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.
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ditto

Daniel 12:2 (NASB95)
2 “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt
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we look on a man as disgraced by capital punishment even if we don't believe in an afterlife.





You ASSUME



 
Sirk

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MsSuzanna said:
I will not even open a PM from someone who has been so nasty to me on the forums. The way I see it,if they will treat me badly in public,the PM is way too private. I have lost any trust in those who persistently rail on me.
I did mean it when I said God bless you to the three I said it to!
It is only an enemy who would treat me as some have on these threads. I do consider them an enemy to the truth and Christ. I had them on iggy and took them off. I put them back on and will keep it that way. Im not itching for a fight in fact it makes me sick to my stomach. Weak men do not particularly like strong women. I know this to be true. Also,those who do not like the whole truth of Gods word do not like it when truth is posted. I can stand! But I have given it enough tries that I really have shook the dust off.


Mark 6:11
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that place, as a testimony against them."
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i think everyone just wants to see a little humanity, maybe some tenderness. That would probably do the trick.
 
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Yeah, I think Willie is the oldest around here.... makes me feel positively YOUNG....

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and, also, that age has brought him a LOT of good understanding and insight. Something that a lot of the younger men, and WOMEN should listen to. I was going to say "woman", but I didn't want anyone to feel "singled out"..... :rolleyes:
 
Magenta

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Sirk said:
Lol. I think it's probably a little bit of a cultural thing. I was raised in a pretty strict Mennonite family and although us children were a handful we knew how to play the game, lol. I wouldn't hold back Willie but I think it's pretty ingrained in me to be a little more cautious when it comes to those of you further down the road than me. There is a lot of value the experience of having more time on the planet Imo. I really love some of my older customers and I always prod them to tell me about themselves if it feels right.
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I very much appreciate the respect you show in your attitude to others. We can all learn something valuable from you in that :)
 
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i have no idea what's going on in here, but

does anyone have any cookies?

*melita ends her derailment of thread*
 
Sirk

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Magenta said:
I very much appreciate the respect you show in your attitude to others. We can all learn something valuable from you in that :)
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not sure why but this made me tear up a little. In a good way tho.
 
MsSuzanna

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Magenta said:
Kedge showed a great a deal of humility and understanding in his studies of Scripture, some that surpassed that of Christians in this very thread. I pray that God continues to open his eyes to the Truth found in Jesus Christ.
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I pray that as well. I was just letting ahwatukee know that he hasnt had any studies to speak of.
 
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MsSuzanna said:
I will not even open a PM from someone who has been so nasty to me on the forums. The way I see it,if they will treat me badly in public,the PM is way too private. I have lost any trust in those who persistently rail on me.
I did mean it when I said God bless you to the three I said it to!
It is only an enemy who would treat me as some have on these threads. I do consider them an enemy to the truth and Christ. I had them on iggy and took them off. I put them back on and will keep it that way. Im not itching for a fight in fact it makes me sick to my stomach. Weak men do not particularly like strong women. I know this to be true. Also,those who do not like the whole truth of Gods word do not like it when truth is posted. I can stand! But I have given it enough tries that I really have shook the dust off.


Mark 6:11
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that place, as a testimony against them."
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You have to do what you feel comfortable doing. It was only a suggestion. When new people come here it takes time for people to get to know them and accept their ways. I was misunderstood a lot when I first joined and learned to lay back a bit and let some things pass. When people first join the site its almost like a hazing lol until people get to know you more and your intent. Im sorry you and Sirk got off to a bad start, but he really is a good person. He and I have disagreed before but have always solved any issue we've had. Hey, if I can give ol' Willie a pass Im sure you and Sirk can make some sort of peace. But that is entirely between the two of you. I have had serious words with people here yet ended up in a friendship. The Bible tells us to live in peace as much as is within us. Not that it is always easy. Blessings.
 
Willie-T

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kaylagrl said:
Well all I can say is you have a right to your opinion. Some people come off as one way until you get to know them. I have no dog in this fight. But I dont want you to take your anger out on me because of someone else,that is unfair. And I felt very much like that is what you have been doing in this thread.
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I'm sorry if I made you feel that way. But, you do have to know that if you pick up her banner, and wave it, that is fairly indicative that you want to be considered to be just like her in those thoughts.... and you are likely to get caught in the cross-fire at times.

Again, if this was not your intent, I'm sorry if I felt the two of you were trying to stand as one, and hurt you.
 
Magenta

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MsSuzanna said:
Dead people do not weep and gnash their teeth
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Nor are they capable of being tortured and tormented. I tend to think that the wailing and gnashing of teeth comes at the prospect of knowing their fate, awaiting the judgement that is sure to come, and seeing how their obstinate refusal to accept the gospel truth will end in their removal from God's creation once and for all. Death is not a welcome sight, generally speaking. As it has been said, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, probably all the more so for those who have spent their whole life in rebellion and defiance toward Him, rejecting His sovereignty. For us it is a great hope to look forward to that day when all things shall be made new and we shall escape this sinful world once and for all.
 
Magenta

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MsSuzanna said:
I pray that as well. I was just letting ahwatukee know that he hasnt had any studies to speak of.
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I saw a great deal of study evident in their postings. I pray their understanding deepens to the point of conviction leading to repentance and full faith. May the God of all Truth and love reveal Himself to those who seek Him. He has promised it be so, and I affirm it is true!
 
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God is love.

God withdraws Himself (love, blessings) from those who do not want Him.

We choose,

He is always there reaching out, holding us.

The "Spirit of Love", the Holy Spirit, calling to us, in our hearts, the Kingdom within us.

What greater pain and suffering can there be, than to be rejected by Him for eternity after knowing His love?

What if we gain the whole world, but lose our own soul, for eternity?

God doesn't "punish", or have "wrath",

He withdraws His love.
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The "human soul" is eternal.

Gen 1:27, "So God created man in his own image,"

Gen 2:7, " And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul."

When Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of evil, (Adam already knew God's perfect love), he died that day Gen 2:17.

But he didn't lose consciousness, he was removed from the presence of God.

But God made a promise of the resurrection to Adam,

'Gen 3:15, "it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

A promise to Adam and all the human, "living souls", saved by faith, in Jesus and His sacrifice, to bring us into His presence again. (Holy Spirit, Kingdom "within you" Lk 17:21).

You have an eternal soul, (in His image),

Eternal life is with God and His love, The second death is being removed from His presence forever, Rev 20:6.

Eternal death (separation) is being totally removed from His love..

Oh, to see it but not have it, to know what could have been, His love,

There will indeed be weeping, eternal weeping, eternal torment on the souls who reject His great love.

Say goodbye to Him forever, Jesus have mercy on the souls of Mankind.

We really have only a small picture of the spiritual world, we only know what the Bible tells us,

I know that God is eternal, and that we are in His image.
 
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Gr8grace said:
Then everybody is saved? A sinners death satisfies His perfect Justice? Adam was saved the moment he died, because Adams death satisfied Gods Justice?

The resurrection of the righteous and the wicked. The wicked are saved because Gods justice was satisfied in their physical death?
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now you are just being rather (removed insult) rather than thinking.

Adam thought that death was the end. That was what God had promised. so he saw it as satisfying 'God's perfect justice'.

But for us to say what would satisfy God's perfect justice is just arrogance. we quite frankly are in no position to judge.
 
Magenta

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melita916 said:
i have no idea what's going on in here, but
does anyone have any cookies?
*melita ends her derailment of thread*
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Will you accept chocolate as a substitution?

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Willie-T

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MsSuzanna said:
Is this still going on? Unbelievable!! Wow! How can he just into this mindset if he has been spending time with the Lord? The point is,he cant :(

He has concocted this all in his head Kayla. It didnt happen like that at all. I fact his story gets more colorful as time goes by. This really is pretty unbelievably sad that he has this kind of anger pent up. Willie needs some help. I will start to report his blatant attacks at me and his inuendo agreement fto others who are trying to a appease to him I guess. The pack needs dispersed. Wolves tend to attack in groups.

Run to Jesus Willie! He will set you free!!
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To anyone who wonders, as I have said before, that post still stands. She cannot erase it now that she has posted it. And it only takes going back in the history of her posts to see exactly the words she said.

(Yes..... "whoever" might want to pass this along to her......... you will have to quote this one, too, so that she can see it.) LOL
 
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MsSuzanna

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Magenta said:
I saw a great deal of study evident in their postings. I pray their understanding deepens to the point of conviction leading to repentance and full faith. May the God of all Truth and love reveal Himself to those who seek Him. He has promised it be so, and I affirm it is true!
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Like I said,he himself said he isnt a christian. He doesnt yet have the indwelling spirit to know scripture as it is written. You didnt see any evidence of correct study. You saw comments like the one on cremation. If you consider that wisdom, well..... okayyyyyyyyyy

I pray that he seeks Christ and one day does have wisdom from God.
 
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