Christian Singer Comes Out

[Ingerlund]

The only reason you have to ha against homosexuality is that it's unbiblical. Divorce is also unbibclical. If anyone is to take you seriously, you must also campaign for divorce to be illegal. but to do so would be stupendously pointless. removed , and you'd see an inevitable backlash. If you won't campaign for divorce to be illegal, you are a hypocrite and a person who pick a and chooses what parts of the good book they want to follow.

That adds your credibilty up to zero.

 

[CS1]

All you people who profess to be republican defenders of the faith have absolutely no power or right to enforce your backwards opinions. Hence the legality of divorce, adultery and remarriage. If you're gonna say "make homosexuality illegal" because the old and new testaments of the bible are vehemently gainst it, you better be ready to concede the bible also illustrates how fathers should let their daughters be raped to protect strangers, how divorce should be illegal and how atheists should be executed by stoning at the gates.

Good luck convincing your constitution of that.

The reality is, such views are barbaric, against your seculsr costituton, and will die within the next few generations.

again my friend you have have an axe to grind on a Christian site that you are clearly not a professing christian correct? The bible doesn't suggest anything that you have stated sir. Nor does anyone here want any atheist stoned. AS far as the United States Constitution that very well maybe true , however, The Word Of God shall stand for ever.
Your understanding of the Christian faith is somewhat confusing and I think most are willing to help clear that up , but if you are not wanting to do that, then maybe you should think about another site. We do not believe in atheists teaching here period . Why because it is a Christian site. Now we could provide to you only why we believe, will it be enough to make you believe ? IT is not our Job to do that . So the ball is in your court .

I say that respectfully,

 

[Mitspa]

Adultery is legal. It's not a crime. As for the rest, I'm not promoting anything. I'm dis-promoting your b.s. Your views are hypocritical and unrealistic. You are a dinosaur.

Your promoting ungodliness and wickedness on a Christian forum ... you need to take your trash to some other worldly forum in my view, and stop trying to pervert the people of God with your insanity and wickedness.

 

[tourist]

The fact that adultery is legal makes your entire point of view hypocritical. You don't campaign against it, because it's pointless and moronic to do so.

I did a Google search and found that in the US adultery is a crime in 23 states with punishments ranging from a $10 fine in Maryland to life in prison in Michigan. It is possible that the adultery statutes are not strictly enforced but to say it is legal is incorrect. Just because it is legal does not make it moral.

 

[CS1]

The only reason you have to ha against homosexuality is that it's unbiblical. Divorce is also unbibclical. If anyone is to take you seriously, you must also campaign for divorce to be illegal. but to do so would be stupendously pointless. removed , and you'd see an inevitable backlash. If you won't campaign for divorce to be illegal, you are a hypocrite and a person who pick a and chooses what parts of the good book they want to follow.

That adds your credibilty up to zero.

no we do not support hmosexuality because the Bible says it sin and it does others. But the context of Divorce is God hate it. Just so you know. And Jesus states the only reason why it was allowed was because of the hardness of mans heart. If one committed adultery Divorce was allowed.

 

[Mitspa]

The only reason you have to ha against homosexuality is that it's unbiblical. Divorce is also unbibclical. If anyone is to take you seriously, you must also campaign for divorce to be illegal. but to do so would be stupendously pointless. removed , and you'd see an inevitable backlash. If you won't campaign for divorce to be illegal, you are a hypocrite and a person who pick a and chooses what parts of the good book they want to follow.

That adds your credibilty up to zero.

You see any threads promoting divorce on this forum? I have never seen one... and a good biblical debate could be had that the bible does allow divorce under certain cases...so your point is just silly.

 

[Ingerlund]

I did a Google search and found that in the US adultery is a crime in 23 states with punishments ranging from a $10 fine in Maryland to life in prison in Michigan. It is possible that the adultery statutes are not strictly enforced but to say it is legal is incorrect. Just because it is legal does not make it moral.

removed and gone

 

[islandman]

The only reason you have to ha against homosexuality is that it's unbiblical. Divorce is also unbibclical. If anyone is to take you seriously, you must also campaign for divorce to be illegal. but to do so would be stupendously pointless. removed , and you'd see an inevitable backlash. If you won't campaign for divorce to be illegal, you are a hypocrite and a person who pick a and chooses what parts of the good book they want to follow.

That adds your credibilty up to zero.

you seem to be mistaken.

Divorce is biblical. Jesus gave one provision to allow for divorce which is adultery. Paul gave another. he said if a believe is married to a non believer and the non believer leaves because of a persons faith then let them go.

Homosexuality is an abomination. point blank. Its should never be accepted or practiced by a christian.

 

[CS1]

Just because the bible says it's okay doesn't make it so. Slavery; marital rape; execution; rape; religious murder; religious genocide. All are okay in the "good book". Go **** yourself ☺

no it does not say that . you are not clear of what the bible is sorry God never condone those things for man

 

[Messy]

I am not sure what you mean. about the church powerless because Christ is able to set them free . we were all bound by Sin but Christ saved us and set me free. When I was saved nobody had to tell me I was new it was very clear. it is very important part of separating yourself from those who are not saved. in ministry most of those I have preached to that have asked Jesus to save them when they were told that they would need to separate themselves they said no. many of them not all went back to the places to tell them of the good news ... they fell back into the sin. I do not care who you are When God set you free you need to flee from the very presence of evil. and Be discipled.
The parable of the Sower in Luke does apply here

I mean the people I spoke to. It was on a reformed forum where they don't even preach on that God can set you free and don't even pray for baptism in the Spirit and don't even kick unclean demons out and don't pray for inner healing, so it's no wonder. They needed help then when they were young. I understand that they accepted it. Now they need to see the power of God. Even Sodom could have been saved if the miracles Jesus did were done there. You can't just blame them and say they chose for it. Sometimes yes people choose to live in sin. I saw some leave a church that has all that, because they wanted to live together with someone. Then it's a choice, but I still pray they come back. I came back too.

 

[Mitspa]

Why do we need to allow people to come on the forum and attack our faith? ...and teach ungodliness and wickedness?

the axe has be used

 

[Messy]

you seem to be mistaken.

Divorce is biblical. Jesus gave one provision to allow for divorce which is adultery. Paul gave another. he said if a believe is married to a non believer and the non believer leaves because of a persons faith then let them go.

Homosexuality is an abomination. point blank. Its should never be accepted or practiced by a christian.

There are a LOT of unbiblical cases of divorce nowadays where people fell out of love or people who remarry while it is adultery in that particular case and they can just do what they want. Noone campaigns for that. Noone campaigns against people living together without being married either or premarital sex which is fornication. Noone forbids couples to be in one room alone before they marry. Noone campaigns to get porn banned just like child porn.
So is it any wonder the homosexuals want to do what they want to do, when everyone else can do that too?

 

[tourist]

All you people who profess to be republican defenders of the faith have absolutely no power or right to enforce your backwards opinions. Hence the legality of divorce, adultery and remarriage. If you're gonna say "make homosexuality illegal" because the old and new testaments of the bible are vehemently gainst it, you better be ready to concede the bible also illustrates how fathers should let their daughters be raped to protect strangers, how divorce should be illegal and how atheists should be executed by stoning at the gates.

Good luck convincing your constitution of that.

The reality is, such views are barbaric, against your seculsr costituton, and will die within the next few generations.

Fortunately, I won't be around for the next few generations regardless of what happens. I recommend that you use a different spell checker.

 

[CS1]

Why do we need to allow people to come on the forum and attack our faith? ...and teach ungodliness and wickedness?

Mitspa ,

it is not that we allow them to attack the site but over time the real motive come to the surface . And we will deal with it. Just keep firm in the Word and pray for such . God Bless ya

 

[kaylagrl]

The only reason you have to ha against homosexuality is that it's unbiblical. Divorce is also unbibclical. If anyone is to take you seriously, you must also campaign for divorce to be illegal. but to do so would be stupendously pointless. It would make you look like an idiot, and you'd see an inevitable backlash. If you won't campaign for divorce to be illegal, you are a hypocrite and a person who pick a and chooses what parts of the good book they want to follow.

That adds your credibilty up to zero.

I think Ravi has an excellent answer to the issue of homosexuality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA

I think he gives a very thoughtful answer. I hope you'll give it a watch.

 

[Machiavelli]

I can tell you I know more than that have come out and it is not temporary when they come out from among them.
when you have so-called Christian churches and preachers supporting this sin it make it very hard for them to come out.
Why should they If God will accept them as they are but not require them to stop.

Those who support this will be judge by God for causing those to fall. those who seek freedom from their sin's in Christ will be set free our God is a liar. You have to do what Jesus said to do come out from among them and separate your self from them. and Follow HIM. any one who will not take up his cross and Follow Jesus will not be saved.

I totally agree when it comes to "Christian" churches that condone homosexuality. There is no incentive for the homosexuals to want to change when they celebrate it. However, those "Christian churches" are definitely in the minority. Maybe there are more than I'm aware of, I wouldn't go to one though. Just as I wouldn't go to a church that condoned any other sin.

 

[kaylagrl]

There are a LOT of unbiblical cases of divorce nowadays where people fell out of love or people who remarry while it is adultery in that particular case and they can just do what they want. Noone campaigns for that. Noone campaigns against people living together without being married either or premarital sex which is fornication. Noone forbids couples to be in one room alone before they marry. Noone campaigns to get porn banned just like child porn.
So is it any wonder the homosexuals want to do what they want to do, when everyone else can do that too?

Unnecessary divorce is certainly rampant these days and I don't believe its pleasing to God. Homes are broken,children and torn between two parents. I traveled in many churches,over 20yrs and in most evangelical churches a pastor will not marry a couple that is living together. I have pastors in my family and pastor friends. Also, many pastors will require a couple that is not saved to attend the church several months before marriage and have counseling. The majority of churches require marriage counseling before the wedding. As far as banning couples in be in the same room I assume you mean sleeping together? There is a point where a person is an adult and must choose the right or wrong path for themselves. I dont see how you could ban an adult couple from doing anything. Its certainly preached that sleeping together or living together is against Gods will in evangelical churches.

So because one person sins why don't we all just sin? Thats a rather odd statement. Sexual sin is wrong for all. All sin leads to death. Just because people call themselves Christians but live like the world doesn't justify their sin any more than a homosexuals sin.

 

[Machiavelli]

The internet is full of testimonies of gays who have been delivered from this perversion ..in fact we have members on this forum who would testify to power of God over this sin. No gay person ever loved or was drawn to their sin more than many of us who have been set free from issues of lust and fornication ..The idea that being gay is a special class of sin that does not need or cannot yield to the power of Gods Spirit to deliver, is simply silly and rather evil in nature.

I am a strong believer that being gay in the eyes of God is not a "special class" as it is in this secular country we live in. No need to sell me on that part.

However, what I question is the sincerity of Christian testimonies that claim they no longer have homosexual desires. I believe people, especially gay people, have a yearning for acceptance, especially when they know the bible is clear that homosexuality is an abomination. What better way to to gain acceptance by fellow Christians than by claiming they are heterosexual now?

That isn't to say that God can't or hasn't taken away homosexual desires, I personally just think that God allows us to have our weaknesses and faults. It's His way of making us rely more on Him. With enough pressure, carbon can be made into diamond. We learn through our trials and tribulations. That's why I think 100% of the Christians I've known with homosexual desires end retaining them even after they've "prayed the gay away."

 

[CS1]

I totally agree when it comes to "Christian" churches that condone homosexuality. There is no incentive for the homosexuals to want to change when they celebrate it. However, those "Christian churches" are definitely in the minority. Maybe there are more than I'm aware of, I wouldn't go to one though. Just as I wouldn't go to a church that condoned any other sin.

there are many of them sadly machiavelli. But the good news is the youth are waking up

 

[heartforHIM]

we all get hurt , that does not mean we choose to sin, the bible is quite clear on that , I pray for him to come back to Christ only then can he truly be happy and the relationship with him is the best one , someone can have