Kindness. Are you willing to share your experience of using Matthew 7:12 ?

[PilgrimPassingThru]

The bema seat is like where the judge of a contest handed out rewards. It will happen after this life and has little to do with chastisement.
We are chastised/spanked/pruned in this life that we may bear further fruit for His glory.

Spanked

Thanks Crossnote, both show being judged, but when you had posted that bema judgment verse under the kind of judged ( as chastening is noted to be). So I wasnt sure if you thought that belonged to "this life" or the next, or whether they were of the same or different and I couldnt say whether I agreed according to how it might have been applied.

Thanks for clearing that up for me

God bless you

 

[JaumeJ]

The "golden rule" is wonderful. I do love it, even though it is a law........Am I permitted to love God's instruction and wisdom? I pray it be so. I am saved by grace, yet I love His teachings.......all of them.

 

[BeyondET]

Part of the explanation is that I work to please God, when God is pleased by what I say or do then I'm pleased.

In obeying God I may please or displease other people. It is right to do the will of God every time.

so would forgiving another person be a act of kindness to please God or to Please yourself or both?

 

[PeterJens]

Driving in London

London over the years has got more and more cars on it. Each junction often gets clogged up.
Years ago with less traffic people did not let others in, they had to wait. Now you basically let people in when appropriate alternatively. Because everyone does it, we all benefit, because at different times we are on both sides of the situation and it makes traffic flow.

So many things in life work like this. We are totally social animals, so as a group we need to operate on both sides all the time. It works.

 

[JaumeJ]

For me it is just what it say. We should always consider how we would want to be treated in a given situation. As far as I know, I am not a murderer, nor would I want to be murdered, therefore what I want for myself, I want for others, not just to please God, but for my own satisfaction as being guided by the Love that is God.

It is pretty simple to understand, if we do not want something "done" do us, we surely should not expect it to be adviseable or good to think w may do it to another.............

As for forgiveness, we always forgive lest we lose teh mercy given us by our Savior. Why would anyone who believes not want to extend the same mercy received.¿

so would forgiving another person be a act of kindness to please God or to Please yourself or both?

 

[popeye]

That is weird, my post disapeared, no what I am referring to is chastening in respects to our being judged, as the Lord judges us.

1 Cr 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

Chastening being grievous (experientially so) as the forgiven servent being handed over to the tormentors is given to the disciples themselves (even as the Father chastens them he receives as sons) but they dont always execute true judgment (as they ought to) just as in the parable of such a servant, and so judgment (even chatisement) without mercy (which was extended to him at the first) was delivered to him after (that he might learn) as there is a TILL in that picture.

And the same wording is found here also in respects to death and life and actually passing from it (as it relates to loving our brethren)

1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^

 

[BeyondET]

Driving in London

London over the years has got more and more cars on it. Each junction often gets clogged up.
Years ago with less traffic people did not let others in, they had to wait. Now you basically let people in when appropriate alternatively. Because everyone does it, we all benefit, because at different times we are on both sides of the situation and it makes traffic flow.

So many things in life work like this. We are totally social animals, so as a group we need to operate on both sides all the time. It works.

Seems London isn't much different than here in the U.S. lol
For traffic is ever increasing here as well and peoples patience is tested more and more. I agree with what you say and makes good sense to me indeed. In my opinion commoderie with others is a give and take relationship for on some days I may have more patience then my fellow brother or sister and on some days my brother or sister will have more patience than I. we help each other to stand and be stronger on matters of patience, love, kindness, understanding, exceptence, forgiveness.

 

[BeyondET]

For me it is just what it say. We should always consider how we would want to be treated in a given situation. As far as I know, I am not a murderer, nor would I want to be murdered, therefore what I want for myself, I want for others, not just to please God, but for my own satisfaction as being guided by the Love that is God.

It is pretty simple to understand, if we do not want something "done" do us, we surely should not expect it to be adviseable or good to think w may do it to another.............

As for forgiveness, we always forgive lest we lose teh mercy given us by our Savior. Why would anyone who believes not want to extend the same mercy received.¿

I agree Brother good post and in my opinion to learn what to do and how to surely starts with understanding scripture on how to treat others but upon learning this knowledge then it should manifest into being apart of a persons character who we are as followers of Christ. that is pleasing to God when we show Love,mercy,kindness,patience, not because God says we should in bible scriptures but because we should for ourselves because that's who we are a branch from the vine in which fruit can bare thus becomes automatic.

 

[Th0mas]

Sirach is not reliably numbered. Providing readers precise Sirach citations (chapter and verse, as with the Bible) is highly problematic, as a firm numbering construct apparently does not exist. What is the book of Sirach?

Which translation may you trust to be the word of God ? Do you judge it's the KJV Bible ? You may look below at parts of an article from GotQuestions.org and you may judge that the judgement the makers of GotQuestions.org agree with is that the KJV Bible is corrupt. You may judge a newer translation to be the word of God and you may agree that the KJV Bible is corrupt and is used by many people who judge it to be the word of God.

I have used the KJV Bible or modern translations depending on the situation.

"Question: "Why are the newer translations of the Bible missing verses?"

Why do these translations not have these verses? Are the newer translations taking verses out of the Bible?

The answer is that the translators did not believe these verses should have been in the Bible to begin with. Since the KJV was translated in A.D. 1611, many Biblical manuscripts have been discovered that are older and more accurate than the manuscripts the KJV was based on. When Bible scholars researched through these manuscripts, they discovered some differences. It seems that over the course of 1500 years, some words, phrases, and even sentences were added to the Bible (either intentionally or accidentally). The verses mentioned above are simply not found in the oldest and most reliable manuscripts. So, the newer translations remove these verses or place them in footnotes or in the margin because they do not truly belong in the Bible."

Why are the newer translations of the Bible missing verses?

 

[ukok102nak]

as it is written
:read:
14*"As Moses lifted up the snake on a pole in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up.
15*Then everyone who believes in him will have eternal life."

:ty:

godbless us all always

 

[mpaper345]

To some people it may appear that I should have started this thread a long time ago. To show some of my judgement, God works in ways which we can't fully understand and He uses people to deliver special messages to other people, so I judge that's why He stopped me from starting this thread long ago.

Do you think it's right to use Matthew 7:12 to judge how to sound your voice and which words to use to other people every time you speak to them including in internet forums, also thinking about what condition they may be in ?

To show some of my judgement, if someone appears to be timid, we should be careful not to say anything to frighten them away.

I judge that's enough to start the thread.

Jesus said that however you want to be treated,then treat other people that way.

But what if you liked being treated bad,liked people calling you names,and dogging you out,and stealing from you,and abusing you physically,then you are not being disobedient to what Jesus said,if you treat people like that,for you like being treated like that.

But of course everyone wants to be treated good,which Jesus knows there is no exceptions,so we should treat other people that way.

 

[Th0mas]

The "golden rule" is wonderful. I do love it, even though it is a law........Am I permitted to love God's instruction and wisdom? I pray it be so. I am saved by grace, yet I love His teachings.......all of them.

A quotation.

"The wise will not hate the law, but the one who is hypocritical about it is like a boat in a storm."

 

[JaumeJ]

Thank you. I do not understand a question in your post though. I do agree it is turmoil for the soul that hates God's teaching.

A quotation.

"The wise will not hate the law, but the one who is hypocritical about it is like a boat in a storm."

 

[Th0mas]

Jesus said that however you want to be treated,then treat other people that way.

But what if you liked being treated bad,liked people calling you names,and dogging you out,and stealing from you,and abusing you physically,then you are not being disobedient to what Jesus said,if you treat people like that,for you like being treated like that.

But of course everyone wants to be treated good,which Jesus knows there is no exceptions,so we should treat other people that way.

I've had similar thoughts to yours before.

Quotations.

"Remember the end of your life, and set grudges aside; remember corruption and death, and be true to the commandments."

Leviticus 19:18

"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

 

[Th0mas]

Thank you.

You're welcome.

I do not understand a question in your post though.

Some of it or all of it ? If some of it, which parts ?

I do agree it is turmoil for the soul that hates God's teaching.

Proverbs 10:23

A fool finds pleasure in wicked schemes, but a person of understanding delights in wisdom.

 

[JaumeJ]

I believe you have made a complete response, again, thank you. God bless you always..........

 

[Th0mas]

I believe you have made a complete response, again, thank you. God bless you always..........

A quotation.

"There are people who bless the one who is beneficial with food, and their testimony to his right will is trustworthy."

Sirach 31:23 changed.

 

[JaumeJ]

Sir 31:23

When one buildeth, and another pulleth down, what profit have they then but labour?

 

[blue_ladybug]

Started this thread a long time ago? You've only been here for 8 or 9 days..lol..

 

[Th0mas]

Sir 31:23

When one buildeth, and another pulleth down, what profit have they then but labour?

I'm not surprised God allows people to misquote His words, how would we become fully mature judges of things and understand God's word as much as is possible for us to do so, if God intervened every time a person misquoted His words ?

The above saying you posted was useful to me.