Repentance: A Boast in the Flesh

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do you want to loose your life?

have you lost your life?

it's a DAILY walk with Christ, in the Spirit

IMO, making a statement like PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO..should include the one making the statement

I do hope this nonsense about continuing in sin stops. NO ONE says that or believes it

it is just part of the rhetoric some people have picked up and enjoy slinging it around

it's a big world...let's all go find someone to help or pray for
I think she was including herself...she said we are to get rid of it with Gods' help and the Holy Spirits' help.
 
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I don't throw things around loosely.. you haven't a clue who I am.. Take you agitation elsewhere bc I speak of myself in every statement if need be..
 
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I'm with you Holly. It gets really confusing as to what the main intent of the argument is.
For the life of me, it looks like the argument is over: abundant grace vs. not so abundant grace...
I have suspicion that it really does tie in to a desire to not give up ones self life...

I would agree grace is indivisible. All of the grace needed for us to acquire our salvation was earned by Christ's work of faith.according to His labor of love.And therefore not of ourselves in any way shape or form .

It reminds me of the division of sin that the Catholic must make because they say Christ did not finish what he came to do And rather gave a unknown remnant of grace and not the full amount needed to give us eternal life. They call that doctrine of men; "venial and mortal". So that they can continual to work to gain salvation according to their flesh,(not work out the grace he has freely given)with no cost on our behalf ... for another unknown amount of time and severity of a work of suffering.

The gift must match the wage which is eternal never to come to new spirit life forever more.

It would seem some follow the wrong kind of hype of the fleshly kind.

Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
 
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do I detect an attitude here?

this thread needs to go the way of the dodo
No just on to things that matter. You made it personal as if you get to judge..
 
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this has been refuted over and over
Lauren - You are accusing people of lying. Sincere people do not lie. So you should be more careful.

BenFTW was expounding on future sins forgiven, and the consequences of that belief.
Unfortunately though you may not accept it, it creates a different view of faith and our walk in Christ
in practice.

Now in our explorations with different believers they believed in hyper-legalism, taking the concept
of sin and making it impossible to not continually break.

Now all these faith positions are held or refuted by different believers.
It is not more complex than this.

For instance if I say I can walk in righteousness and purity, someone will say that is only
true because I define sin wrongly as happened this morning, lol.
 

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the biggest gripe these hyper snipers (copyright 2016 LTM) have, seems to be that if you believe that grace alone saves you, that is grace as in the unmerited favor of God, then you are automatically a sinner and bring shame on Christians everywhere

this has been refuted over and over and I am beginning to think there is something wrong with the gray matter of people who ignore that and just keep chanting the same thing as though a lie could become a truth

perhaps for them it is a truth, I don't know. but my personal thought is to just ignore all their posts. what they are saying is not true

the ignore button is probably the best option at this point
Hyper- snipers? I love it! You should get a quarter every time someone says that.
 
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I don't throw things around loosely.. you haven't a clue who I am.. Take you agitation elsewhere bc I speak of myself in every statement if need be..
It's okay holly. Let's just ignore what is not beneficial to us and forgive and be forgiven.
I have been enjoying our conversation and the Spirit helped us and we can go on walking in love and having good conversation that helps us! :)
 
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It's okay holly. Let's just ignore what is not beneficial to us and forgive and be forgiven.
I have been enjoying our conversation and the Spirit helped us and we can go on walking in love and having good conversation that helps us! :)
I'm ok. It's annoying when people twist things on a Christian site.. Thank you, I have enjoyed it as well.. Do enjoy your day if this be the last encounter today
 

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Yet another thread taken to the brink. It is sad some of the things that continually go on..
Sincere people, having a sincere discussion, concerning sincere matters of Scripture, whose opinions differ one from another, are not often accepted with sincere Christian love and humility. There is a long History of that on CC, and pretty much any other Site in existence that I am aware of.

(just saying)
 

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No just on to things that matter. You made it personal as if you get to judge..
What exactly do you mean? Do you mean we are not to judge at all, or that just we won't make the final judgement on someone? If you are saying we as Christians are not to ever judge anything in any way then I strongly disagree, first off if you didn't ever judge at all you would be forever frozen in your own house crippled by an inability to do anything because of lack of the ability to choose, second what are we to do with John 7:24 where Jesus Himself tells us to "[FONT=&quot]Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment"?[/FONT]
 
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Sincere people, having a sincere discussion, concerning sincere matters of Scripture, whose opinions differ one from another, are not often accepted with sincere Christian love and humility. There is a long History of that on CC, and pretty much any other Site in existence that I am aware of.

(just saying)
Don't you wish we could just have conversation and grow by each others thoughts on Him and His Word?
I learn a lot just by the way the Holy Spirit guides our conversation and gives each of us a gift to share with each other. :)
I get very weary sometimes by how we run around being nasty to each other. We wouldn't even allow our OWN children to speak the way we speak to each other, with such arrogance and ungraciousness.

I have learned so MUCH by what He has given to each of us to share! :)
 
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What exactly do you mean? Do you mean we are not to judge at all, or that just we won't make the final judgement on someone? If you are saying we as Christians are not to ever judge anything in any way then I strongly disagree, first off if you didn't ever judge at all you would be forever frozen in your own house crippled by an inability to do anything because of lack of the ability to choose, second what are we to do with John 7:24 where Jesus Himself tells us to "[FONT=&quot]Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment"?[/FONT]
She twisted my words in a response to someone else. She should have asked instead of implying I meant what I didn't.. I was staying within the conversation not making it a general statement
 
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Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
Matt 5:3-5

Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
2 Tim 2:15

My mouth speaks what is true, for my lips detest wickedness.
Prov 8:7

Righteousness guards the person of integrity, but wickedness overthrows the sinner.
Prov 13:6
 
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We fall so easily into letting our flesh get stirred up.
Let's not be unaware of how this spirit of strife abuses us and gets us to stop walking in the love and forgiveness we received, freely giving to others what we ourselves have been given.

Just say no to this spirit of strife. :)
He makes us stumble far too often!
Ignore whatever is not beneficial to us by growing our trust. Because that IS the race set before us. The race of faith!
 
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What exactly do you mean? Do you mean we are not to judge at all, or that just we won't make the final judgement on someone? If you are saying we as Christians are not to ever judge anything in any way then I strongly disagree, first off if you didn't ever judge at all you would be forever frozen in your own house crippled by an inability to do anything because of lack of the ability to choose, second what are we to do with John 7:24 where Jesus Himself tells us to "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment"?
I would agree we are not judge one another but we must evaluate. If a person claims to be a Christian we have a respeonsibillty to try and commune as if they are .Christ does all the convicting and makes the adjustments .He will sort out the lambs form the goats in the end of the matter.

Only God can see into a persons heart as they in the silent mediation make their request known.

What prayer and supplication soever be made by any man, or by all thy people Israel, which shall know every man the plague of his own heart, and spread forth his hands toward this house:Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men;) 1Ki 8:38
 
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Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.
Rev 12:10

Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
1 Peter 5:8

But you, Lord, are a shield around me, my glory, the One who lifts my head high.
Psalm 3:3

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.
Matt 5:6
 
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And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Jeremiah 31:34

it's not God who does not forgive; it is people who do not understand their obligation in the Lord to forgive as they have been forgiven

if you have repented...changed your mind...confessed your sins, whatever you want to call it, God is faithful and just and He forgives you

you don't have to grovel and you don't have to pour ashes on your head and you especially do not have to condemn everyone else if they say what I just said and you think that somehow your fleshy acts are holy in the sight of God...they are not

in most cases, they are most likely insulting

can you improve on the sinless Son of God dying for the sin of the world?

Psalm 103:12 says God removes our sins as far as the east is from the west

11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

now that is who I am going to listen to, who I am going to pray to and who I go to when I need to 'repent'

I now have some of you on ignore due to the nature of your posts, so. if that is you, that will be why I don't defend myself or respond to you any longer


 
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Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.
1 Peter 3:9


Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Matt 5:11
 
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Here is a paragraph from the op

This thread has been so badly derailed by personal agendas and drama queen behavior, that I think some here have not read the op but have taken the thread over because that is what they do


There is so much more than meets the eye when it comes to repentance. It is tainted with religion and self righteousness. It tries to acknowledge Jesus, but treats His blood as if common. Incapable of doing that which God set out to do. Granting us forgiveness, taking our sins away and justifying us before God. Jesus being able as our High Priest to save us completely. All of this is tossed aside for a concept of repentance that deals with sin confession as if it maintains salvation. That is where people should truly repent. Change your mind about sin confession for forgiveness because it misses the mark that is Christ Jesus on that cross paying for your sins. You are forgiven, it is not something you seek. It is found in Christ.