Repentance: A Boast in the Flesh
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they are most likely insulting
A spirit is being expressed here of condemnation on peoples showing of repentance.
People repent and show remorse in different ways. God has never condemned this. Rather
he says this:-
My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.
Psalm 51:17
For this is what the high and exalted One says – he who lives for ever, whose name is holy: ‘I live in a high and holy place, but also with the one who is contrite and lowly in spirit, to revive the spirit of the lowly and to revive the heart of the contrite.
Isaiah 57:15
So to link "insulting" to repentance is not from the Lord.
The idea is you are earning forgiveness, when the actual concept is you are taking sin seriously
and starting to work it through. Sin is just the top of the issues in our hearts.
Those who talk like the above, often do not really understand either sin, its origins or real
authentic repentance.
A spirit is being expressed here of condemnation on peoples showing of repentance.
People repent and show remorse in different ways. God has never condemned this. Rather
he says this:-
My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.
Psalm 51:17
For this is what the high and exalted One says – he who lives for ever, whose name is holy: ‘I live in a high and holy place, but also with the one who is contrite and lowly in spirit, to revive the spirit of the lowly and to revive the heart of the contrite.
Isaiah 57:15
So to link "insulting" to repentance is not from the Lord.
The idea is you are earning forgiveness, when the actual concept is you are taking sin seriously
and starting to work it through. Sin is just the top of the issues in our hearts.
Those who talk like the above, often do not really understand either sin, its origins or real
authentic repentance.
J
I try to keep within the KISS system. Keep It Simple Stupid (not referring to you).
We confess so that we know what we did was negative and therefore destructive.
We repent so that we will not continue the damage by repeating the act.
We are forgiven or healed of the damage caused by the act.
We become a new fresh clean person at that point.
We go back into the world where we encounter more temptation.
If we yield go back to step 1.
Jesus said we need to be washed completely by him once. After that we need only wash our feet from the dirt of daily living.
We confess so that we know what we did was negative and therefore destructive.
We repent so that we will not continue the damage by repeating the act.
We are forgiven or healed of the damage caused by the act.
We become a new fresh clean person at that point.
We go back into the world where we encounter more temptation.
If we yield go back to step 1.
Jesus said we need to be washed completely by him once. After that we need only wash our feet from the dirt of daily living.
He says, ‘Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.
Psalm 46:10
‘Come now, let us settle the matter,’ says the Lord.
‘Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.
If you are willing and obedient, you will eat the good things of the land;
but if you resist and rebel, you will be devoured by the sword.’
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.
Isiah 1:18-20
Psalm 46:10
‘Come now, let us settle the matter,’ says the Lord.
‘Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.
If you are willing and obedient, you will eat the good things of the land;
but if you resist and rebel, you will be devoured by the sword.’
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.
Isiah 1:18-20
Except for the last sentence, this is an amazing post. All should work out their salvation with fear and trembling and no one should hinder another because they just don't think they are doing it right or because they want to have a useless conversation over the meaning of a word that does nothing to practically help us in this race of faith in God. From either "side", we should not do this, accuse each other of repenting wrongly. It's between each man and God and is highly personal. No one can go with you to meet Him and talk with Him. Each man goes alone into the holy of holies to speak with God.
He knows each of us as to our hurts and the defenses we have thrown up and He alone knows how to guide each of His children.
As peter said earlier, the reality of this approach to God because of the Precious Blood that allows it, and the renewing of our minds by Gods' working is more important than all the theology and definitions of words all put together!
We have to stop condemning each other over word definitions. The only thing of importance to any of us is: have you received the Holy Spirit?
He knows each of us as to our hurts and the defenses we have thrown up and He alone knows how to guide each of His children.
As peter said earlier, the reality of this approach to God because of the Precious Blood that allows it, and the renewing of our minds by Gods' working is more important than all the theology and definitions of words all put together!
We have to stop condemning each other over word definitions. The only thing of importance to any of us is: have you received the Holy Spirit?
God blesses the peacemakers. Even before they speak the words of peace, He has blessed them! 
You have shown great obedience to our Lord here and He lifts up the humble and fills them with good things, so I am rejoicing for you, sister!!
And I am weeping uncontrollably at your love and obedience for the One who died for me and am so thankful that you do Him such honor who I love so much.
You have shown great obedience to our Lord here and He lifts up the humble and fills them with good things, so I am rejoicing for you, sister!!
And I am weeping uncontrollably at your love and obedience for the One who died for me and am so thankful that you do Him such honor who I love so much.
H
God blesses the peacemakers. Even before they speak the words of peace, He has blessed them!
You have shown great obedience to our Lord here and He lifts up the humble and fills them with good things, so I am rejoicing for you, sister!!
And I am weeping uncontrollably at your love and obedience for the One who died for me and am so thankful that you do Him such honor who I love so much.
You have shown great obedience to our Lord here and He lifts up the humble and fills them with good things, so I am rejoicing for you, sister!!
And I am weeping uncontrollably at your love and obedience for the One who died for me and am so thankful that you do Him such honor who I love so much.
Yes, all glory to Him for His grace to you that He would cause you to be the one to run toward peace. I have to blow my nose and go praise Him for His faithfulness to you and yours toward Him because you have ravished my heart. But not you, but Him in you that I have seen...I'm just undone at the beauty of my Lord in you, sister. Can't see through my tears and weeping. Talk to you later, sister.
E
I agree. There comes a time to defend what you are saying when people falsy accuse you. But it should only go so long (I am guilty of taking it to far)
I will also say, those who ENABLE a destroyer are as much to blame.. especially when the destroyer has a habit of destroying threads by continuing to falsely accuse others.
This issue here lately not one idea as compared to another idea, and lets discuss these ideas and see if we can come to a middle ground, or have any things in common. It can never get to that point. Even if we tried, Because certain people always revert to their attacks and false accusation.. And nothing is every done about it. So why should they stop. or repent? or confess they are wrong.. There is no accountability held by the people in the thread.
I agree with another poster. We need to get this thread back on topic (the op) or let it go altogether.
I will also say, those who ENABLE a destroyer are as much to blame.. especially when the destroyer has a habit of destroying threads by continuing to falsely accuse others.
This issue here lately not one idea as compared to another idea, and lets discuss these ideas and see if we can come to a middle ground, or have any things in common. It can never get to that point. Even if we tried, Because certain people always revert to their attacks and false accusation.. And nothing is every done about it. So why should they stop. or repent? or confess they are wrong.. There is no accountability held by the people in the thread.
I agree with another poster. We need to get this thread back on topic (the op) or let it go altogether.
The Holy Spirit didn't reveal that to you, that was personal bias and convictions of your own. It opposes your own belief system on repentance and the very fabric of your reality and relationship with God. So naturally, you showed repulsion to it. God's grace to those with some traditional backgrounds on repentance are offended. They think its downright blasphemous.
Yet, it isn't. It is Christ exalting. However, with the traditional understanding of sin confession and repentance one must trample underfoot the Son of God. Especially if one maintains that sin confession maintains one's salvation. For what reason did Christ die? Are we not justified? Then what forgiveness is sought and to what end? Our sins have experienced remission by the blood of Christ. VVhy do we seek another avenue for forgiveness other than Jesus' sacrifice? It doesn't make sense.
I can assure you, the Lord didn't reveal that to you (that he preaches a false gospel). Grace777x70 preaches the truth on God's grace and its sufficiency. He may, indeed, preach another gospel than the one you believe as far as repentance goes and how one has victory over sin, but you believe in the same Jesus Christ. You both believe in Jesus' death and resurrection and that we are saved by grace through faith. The process of sanctification, however, may be where there is a difference in methodology. Know this though, sanctification isn't what saves us. VVe are justified by faith.
Yet, it isn't. It is Christ exalting. However, with the traditional understanding of sin confession and repentance one must trample underfoot the Son of God. Especially if one maintains that sin confession maintains one's salvation. For what reason did Christ die? Are we not justified? Then what forgiveness is sought and to what end? Our sins have experienced remission by the blood of Christ. VVhy do we seek another avenue for forgiveness other than Jesus' sacrifice? It doesn't make sense.
I can assure you, the Lord didn't reveal that to you (that he preaches a false gospel). Grace777x70 preaches the truth on God's grace and its sufficiency. He may, indeed, preach another gospel than the one you believe as far as repentance goes and how one has victory over sin, but you believe in the same Jesus Christ. You both believe in Jesus' death and resurrection and that we are saved by grace through faith. The process of sanctification, however, may be where there is a difference in methodology. Know this though, sanctification isn't what saves us. VVe are justified by faith.
J
Who are you to judge "certain people" as being wrong? Satan is known as "the accuser".
One of my favorite sayings is that when you point your finger at yourself the three other fingers on your hand are pointing back at you.
Trust me this message is right on topic as I am willing to bet there are a lot of people who need to repent because they would rather argue against a person than try to understand and agree with them.
One of my favorite sayings is that when you point your finger at yourself the three other fingers on your hand are pointing back at you.
Trust me this message is right on topic as I am willing to bet there are a lot of people who need to repent because they would rather argue against a person than try to understand and agree with them.