Sleeping together?

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Willie-T said:
I dunno. Somehow, to me, it seems it has happened relatively recently that almost ALL Christians don't seem to give it a second thought.
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I don't buy it at all, however, why bring anything up, since the ones doing it will just scoff and give some lame excuse to lay it on us?
 
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Fenner said:
My junior year in high school we had to pick a partner, boy/girl and carry around a decorated like a child hard boiled egg for a week. This was supposed to teach us how much responsibility a child is. My partner and I named ours Yoko Ono and poor little Yoko rolled off the cafeteria table and cracked . I put a bandaid on it but we still failed. It was a stupid and smelly idea.
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Ha ha that's so funny, maybe you should have called it Humpty Dumpty!
 
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Willie-T said:
Is the idea of abstaining till marriage just a foolish, antiquated notion anymore?
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I don't believe it is....but then again I am told I am old fashioned all the time. From the older generations it is a compliment. From the younger generations it tends to be a bad thing.


There was one kid when I was in high-school who said that his pastor essentially told him common law marriage was God's marriage.
I think the biggest reason though is the non-Christians arguments. Many my age seem to just fall for the arguments against abstinence. I have seen so many fall because of peer pressure or just wanting to fit in with non-Christian friends. It also seems like a lot of my generation doesn't even read the Bible, which is very sad.
 
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Tinuviel

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kodiak said:
I don't believe it is....but then again I am told I am old fashioned all the time. From the older generations it is a compliment. From the younger generations it tends to be a bad thing.


There was one kid when I was in high-school who said that his pastor essentially told him common law marriage was God's marriage.
I think the biggest reason though is the non-Christians arguments. Many my age seem to just fall for the arguments against abstinence. I have seen so many fall because of peer pressure or just wanting to fit in with non-Christian friends. It also seems like a lot of my generation doesn't even read the Bible, which is very sad.
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Here's a younger generation that will give it to you in a highly complementary way...God bless you, Kodiak! You're refreshingly old-fashioned in a world full of robots following the media. :D
 
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Ultimatum77 said:
The term "sleeping together" is such a misnomer...lol what two people only wanted to catch some zzz's? Society has become so pc about it lol it's laughable.....
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My favorite tv show is Matlock and the term they use is 'Lovers' and yes it is laughable
 
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Willie-T said:
Yeah, most schools just teach sex, not loving relationships. They show films on how it works, and then hand out condoms so you can practice. Not exactly the idea God had in mind.
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They are teaching "loving" relationships. The school system is twisted though. The way they define love might as well be taken from Satan's handbook.
It's okay for a man to love man, etc.
 
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Miri said:
Ha ha that's so funny, maybe you should have called it Humpty Dumpty!
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Oh oh my goodness, that would have been much more appropriate. :)
 
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mpaper345 said:
As far as Christians,there is no such thing as boyfriend,girlfriend,only engaged to be married,which until they are married to not engage in any sexual activity,other than hanging around each other.

There is no such thing as boyfriend,girlfriend,for if not to be engaged to be married,then they have not made a commitment to eventually get married,and know they will get married.


The saints are supposed to have an attitude to each other that it is hands off,and no sexual activity,as the world casually does it,and boyfriend,girlfriend,would imply that there is something going on between the two,that is not a normal relationship as should be between saints,and even kissing,and holding hands,and holding each other,would be wrong.

If they are doing something together as far as closeness,that they would not do with any other saint,then it is wrong,for boyfriend,and girlfriend,does not apply in the saints world,only engaged to be married,which then they should not live together,or kiss,which I do not believe they should even hold hands,or hold each other with that closeness,until they are married.

How can boyfriend,girlfriend,apply,when the only thing God sees as right is marriage,and being engaged,knowing you will be married,why,because it is a commitment between two people,a covenant,which is only valid in God's eyes.
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I personally think its okay to hold hands and occasionally kiss. The problem with that is keeping it that way and not going further. I know that kissing leads to other things and it can happen quickly. So yeah I guess it would be best to avoid it all together but I think the occasional kiss is okay. Thats just my opinion though I could be wrong.
 
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You're going to find that Kody is one very remarkable man in many ways. I see future Presidential material here.
 
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Fenner said:
My junior year in high school we had to pick a partner, boy/girl and carry around a decorated like a child hard boiled egg for a week. This was supposed to teach us how much responsibility a child is. My partner and I named ours Yoko Ono and poor little Yoko rolled off the cafeteria table and cracked . I put a bandaid on it but we still failed. It was a stupid and smelly idea.
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yeah i had to do the same thing.
 
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I wish I could talk to young women about my experience with pre marital sex and they not so great effects it has on your self esteem and your body. I know people will do what they want anyhow but if it could help someone, I'd be glad for that.
 
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Ultimatum77 said:
The term "sleeping together" is such a misnomer...lol what two people only wanted to catch some zzz's? Society has become so pc about it lol it's laughable.....
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Yeah, but I would get banned if I used the other common terms for it. LOL
 
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Miri

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FlowersnJesus said:
They are teaching "loving" relationships. The school system is twisted though. The way they define love might as well be taken from Satan's handbook.
It's okay for a man to love man, etc.
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Its been a while since my school days and there will be differences in countries.
But most of what we learnt was based on rumours, sniggers and gossip in the classroom.
Parents were the ones who were suppose to instruct their children - many shirked
that job.

Our sex education in school consisted of an extremely embarrassed young male teacher
explaining how to put a condom onto a test tube, it would have made for a good skit in
a Monty Python film. Plus I went to an all girls high school, so you can imagine how
embarrassed he was in front of a class of 30 teenage girls!

I suspect that for many these days, the Internet and TV is unfortunately the main
source of education.
 
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Fenner said:
My junior year in high school we had to pick a partner, boy/girl and carry around a decorated like a child hard boiled egg for a week. This was supposed to teach us how much responsibility a child is. My partner and I named ours Yoko Ono and poor little Yoko rolled off the cafeteria table and cracked . I put a bandaid on it but we still failed. It was a stupid and smelly idea.
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When I was in high-school the class that did that was an elective. Not very many took it, but they used the doll instead of eggs... One of my friends went into a random class with this doll and accidentally dropped the baby. The teacher didn't know it was the doll from the other class and started to panic.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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My high school used small bags of flour as the baby.

Thankfully, I never had to take that class. Learning about babies was never an appeal to me.
 
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Ultimatum77

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kodiak said:
I don't believe it is....but then again I am told I am old fashioned all the time. From the older generations it is a compliment. From the younger generations it tends to be a bad thing.


There was one kid when I was in high-school who said that his pastor essentially told him common law marriage was God's marriage.
I think the biggest reason though is the non-Christians arguments. Many my age seem to just fall for the arguments against abstinence. I have seen so many fall because of peer pressure or just wanting to fit in with non-Christian friends. It also seems like a lot of my generation doesn't even read the Bible, which is very sad.
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Tinuviel said:
Here's a younger generation that will give it to you in a highly complementary way...God bless you, Kodiak! You're refreshingly old-fashioned in a world full of robots following the media. :D
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Willie-T said:
Yeah, but I would get banned if I used the other common terms for it. LOL
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There there, brother willie (pats down shoulder lol) :) I know what you mean.....
 
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Miri

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Yahweh_is_gracious said:
My high school used small bags of flour as the baby.

Thankfully, I never had to take that class. Learning about babies was never an appeal to me.
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Hey you could have put that with the egg to make a baby pancake!
 
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It doesn't always work.

My mother started teaching me the real deal somewhere around 7. One of my 9th or 10th birthday presents was a book called The Stork Didn't Bring You.

Unfortunately, we weren't Christians, and I watched as Mom lived her life of fairly free living as a single woman. I grew up as pretty much a horn dog, and had had more than 400 sexual encounters by the time I married my first wife. (Give me a break... I didn't get married till I was 27.)

I straightened up pretty quickly when I became a Christian, but it was a rough road up till then.
 
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Tinuviel

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Monnkai said:
I personally think its okay to hold hands and occasionally kiss. The problem with that is keeping it that way and not going further. I know that kissing leads to other things and it can happen quickly. So yeah I guess it would be best to avoid it all together but I think the occasional kiss is okay. Thats just my opinion though I could be wrong.
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My thoughts are that it is just our culture that makes kissing a romantic thing anyway. Or holding hands. or hugging. Up through the Civil War, kissing someone was a greeting, not a romantic thing. There is nothing sinful about kissing someone. Or holding hands. Or hugging. It is the thoughts, desires, and actions that may arise from doing those things in a romantically attached situation that are wrong.
 
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