The Trump is terrible thread...

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JosephsDreams

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RBS, if you think we are in a cold war with Russia, then what do you call our relationship with Iran? With Korea?
How about China?
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Well obviously you know this is your opinion. As you said, facts are facts, they can't be argued, But opinions can not be proved. Your entitled naturally, I just don't agree.
What do you base this on?
How can you judge Trumps spiritual core? And now your saying his motives are to fool and deceive pastors and laymen?
How can you say that, much less prove it?
have you seen the photo of trump and jerry falwell junior posing happily in front of trump's personal shrine to trump that included a playboy magazine cover?

have you heard trump's supporters borrowing the liberal tactic of comparing those who oppose trump on biblical moral grounds with the westboro baptists?

have you heard ann coulter say that she didn't care about the lives of the unborn so long as trump kept up his push against immigration?

have you heard she's writing a book with the blasphemous and idolatrous title 'in trump we trust'?

have you heard that at that meeting with christian leaders it was reported that the name of jesus was never mentioned?

did you notice one of the trumpists on this very forum actually saying flat out that they trump -wouldn't- lose their support even if he murdered someone?

trump taints and compromises every professing christian who associates themselves with him...we have entire church formations now whose testimony has been ignominiously trashed by their association with trump and his amoral antics...
 

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I heard that the KGB Is trained to do what Vladimir Putin Is doing to Donald R. Trump

If Putin can playyy Trump like that,that would be a reflection on our Intelligence.

If Trump were POTUS,Trumps narcissistic personality would put the United States In danger.
I heard Dr. Drew Penski talking about Trump earlier. He said Trump does not display symptoms of being a narcissist. He said that Trumps unfiltered speech is a sign of being a hypermanic. He said the latter is not necessarily a bad thing for someone to have in a position such as president. If you believe dr. Drew. I'm not a medical clinician. I don't know anyone else on here who is.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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I wonder if the DOD knows we are now back in a cold war with Russia .... stupid!
now you're using obama's defense department as your authority on geopolitics...you might as well be using hillary clinton as your authority on benghazi...this desperation would be funny if it wasn't so sad...
 
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Mitspa

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These Hillary supporters have completely lost touch with reality ...ive never read such nonsense as is being posted by these folks ...lol
 
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Mitspa

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now you're using obama's defense department as your authority on geopolitics...you might as well be using hillary clinton as your authority on benghazi...this desperation would be funny if it wasn't so sad...
Again your ignorance of how the DOD works and who the DOD is...makes you clearly unable to grasp the sheer insanity of what you are trying to affirm ...the large Majority of the folks in the DOD would like to drop Obama out a plane with a bad ps
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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RBS, if you think we are in a cold war with Russia, then what do you call our relationship with Iran? With Korea?
How about China?
iran is an enemy...most of the activity in the middle east these days is actually proxy warfare involving iran...
south korea is an ally...
north korea is an enemy...in fact we are still officially in a state of war with north korea...with military hostilities having ended under a ceasefire and not a treaty...
china is a strategic geopolitical and economic rival...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Again your ignorance of how the DOD works and who the DOD is...makes you clearly unable to grasp the sheer insanity of what you are trying to affirm ...the large Majority of the folks in the DOD would like to drop Obama out a plane with a bad ps
remind me who appointed the secretary of defense...which branch of government the defense department falls under...and who runs it and determines official defense policy...
 

JosephsDreams

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have you seen the photo of trump and jerry falwell junior posing happily in front of trump's personal shrine to trump that included a playboy magazine cover?

What exactly does that imply to you? To me, it means, well that Trump has a ego, like many people in power do, and thet he once did a interview with Playboy, and that Jerry Falwell jr. probably supports him. So what? I just love it how just about everyone here wants to judge Trump and other people in the public eye, and even on this site, to a standard most of them can't keep themselves. Every hear of grace and people changing? At least Trump is going in the right direction, unlike Hillary, who is rapidly sliding into spiritual oblivion. Thank God you won't be judging me when the day comes. Talk about taskmaster.


have you heard trump's supporters borrowing the liberal tactic of comparing those who oppose trump on biblical moral grounds with the westboro baptists?

NO, but I don't care. That is his supporters. Not him. Who do you want to talk about?

have you heard ann coulter say that she didn't care about the lives of the unborn so long as trump kept up his push against immigration?

No, but it doesn't much prove your point. So what? How does that prove your point? How does it answer the question I asked you, which was how can you say Trump is fooling Christians? If Ann C. is saying that, she is not a real Christian to me.

have you heard she's writing a book with the blasphemous and idolatrous title 'in trump we trust'?

See above. So far, your making inane arguments. Not even close to proving your view.

have you heard that at that meeting with christian leaders it was reported that the name of jesus was never mentioned?

I can post a video now that Jesus is mentioned many times in a meeting with Christian leaders. I am sure if I searched, I can find more then one.

did you notice one of the trumpists on this very forum actually saying flat out that they trump -wouldn't- lose their support even if he murdered someone?

Your basing your claim that Trump is a evil deceiver based on that? I would still vote for him if he murdered Hillary. Just kidding.

trump taints and compromises every professing christian who associates themselves with him...we have entire church formations now whose testimony has been ignominiously trashed by their association with trump and his amoral antics...

The whole point of your post was to prove to me you know Trumps spiritual state and could prove it. This last point of yours does that? Your just stating your opinion. You proved nothing, except that you need to chill out. Pray, go to dinner with a friend. Your off base when your judging his spiritual state. Stick to politics. While I did not agree with most of what you said, at least with that you usually sounded coherent. Now, you just sound unhinged.
They want me to type something here because I responded inside your quotes.
 

JosephsDreams

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iran is an enemy...most of the activity in the middle east these days is actually proxy warfare involving iran...
south korea is an ally...
north korea is an enemy...in fact we are still officially in a state of war with north korea...with military hostilities having ended under a ceasefire and not a treaty...
china is a strategic geopolitical and economic rival...
Most experts believe we ended the cold war with Russia long ago. But you know better, I guess.

cold war
noun
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  • a state of political hostility between countries characterized by threats, propaganda, and other measures short of open warfare, in particular.


    • the state of political hostility that existed between the Soviet bloc countries and the US-led Western powers from 1945 to 1990.
      [COLOR=#878787 !important]noun: the Cold War[/COLOR]



 
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RachelBibleStudent

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They want me to type something here because I responded inside your quotes.
i read your responses...however it appeared very quickly to me that you assumed a different theme in my post than what my actual purpose was...

my post was not written as an evaluation of trump's spiritual state...it was an evaluation of trump's effect on professing christians...

given the context of our previous discussion...namely trump as an agent of corruption in american evangelicalism...i assumed that was the point at issue although you may have had a different expectation...

to make a long story short...by a failure of communication it has turned out that you have correctly assessed that my post does not prove something it was never intended to prove...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Most experts believe we ended the cold war with Russia long ago. But you know better, I guess.

cold war
noun
[COLOR=#878787 !important][/COLOR]

  • a state of political hostility between countries characterized by threats, propaganda, and other measures short of open warfare, in particular.
    • the state of political hostility that existed between the Soviet bloc countries and the US-led Western powers from 1945 to 1990.
      [COLOR=#878787 !important]noun: the Cold War[/COLOR]


you and your dictionary source are correct that 'the' cold war ended around the very early 1990s...

however we are now in a -new- cold war...under your first definition...

political hostility...check...
threats...check...
propaganda...check...
'other measures short of open warfare'...check...
 

tourist

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you and your dictionary source are correct that 'the' cold war ended around the very early 1990s...

however we are now in a -new- cold war...under your first definition...

political hostility...check...
threats...check...
propaganda...check...
'other measures short of open warfare'...check...
Apparently, the cold war is heating up again.
 
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What's more distressing to me than seeing the way this country has been so maligned and trashed in many ways, is the fact that I wind up in nasty verbal battles with people I would much prefer to have joy-filled encouragements with, as sisters and brothers in the Lord.

I sometimes even cringe if I get a like or compliment on a post, although I'm greatly appreciative, it really means a lot to me and I thank anyone who gives me a tip of the hat like that, bc I don't get much support or encouragement in life in general, barely any from anyone, really, but I'm sure that's my fault, but, so it really does mean alot, even tho I'm trying not to make a big deal of things, and am trying to avoid things like reps and friends lists, etc., for personal reasons....but please know I mean no offense if I avoid that stuff for now....PLEASE know I mean no offense.

But it grieves me when there are divisions in the body, for just about ANY reason. It's just so mind-blowing that so many people who call themselves christian have been so blind to the policies and practices of the left in this country, and the destruction they bring to the nation as a whole, and to the cause of Christ even moreso.

And so, yes, some of us are angry, but maybe more of us SHOULD be.
Jesus said be angry and sin not, neither let the sun go down on our anger. Meaning don't hold a grudge from day to day, settle it before bed, I guess. We're supposed to be people of forgiveness, and Jesus wants us to have unity in His truth with the bonds of peace and love, and His mercies are new every morning.

Personally, lately, I've got a number of 'issues' (ugh, don't like that word) going on in life, am trying really hard not to project worry onto the future, both short and long-term. I know the Lord is on His throne, but right now, these days, I'm really struggling, I don't sense any support, the Lord seems a bit distant, and I can almost hear it now from some 'loving' christians giving me advice like Job's friends. Lol.

So there's more to come, I'm sure, all kinds of things, and maybe some expressions of anger are a coping mechanism to help battle depression that can sneak in.

But I can see what the fundamental transdestruction of America is all about, and if the left continues in power with hillary, things don't look too pretty.

Someone mentioned about those that sacrificed for our right to vote as we see fit. Yes, but I can't help thinking many of them might be rolling over in their graves when they see those very rights being eroded by the left, and it's very frustrating that there aren't more christians standing up to try to stop it, but are actually contributing to it, by voting hillary, or 3rd person, or not at all.

It just seems so cut and dried, if we vote for Trump, we at least take our chances with hope we get some good to come out of it, maybe alot of good, who knows?
Otherwise we get hillary, and pretty much guarantee we won't.
Or at least show me what good you think we'd get, and based on what?

That's all for now. God bless yous with His peace.
 

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[h=1]Donald Trump And The Art Of The Lie[/h]
[video=youtube;yo1CVD0M_mc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo1CVD0M_mc[/video]

Warning video contains some language.

I believe people need to fix there eyes on Jesus Christ, instead of wasting energy debating upon 2 evil people that are lovers of self.

A comment from youtuber :

I can't believe that there is an abundant amount of people who access the internet daily, and still believe he is an authentic person.

It's actually pretty amazing. He doesn't pause, he doesn't flinch, nothing- even when the facts are presented right to him, he just keeps going like he is doing a jedi mind trick on the audience. It's like ______ is his superpower.

Get ya eye's fix on Jesus Christ, as Peter was told by Christ Himself :)

Shalom
 
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I heard Dr. Drew Penski talking about Trump earlier. He said Trump does not display symptoms of being a narcissist. He said that Trumps unfiltered speech is a sign of being a hypermanic. He said the latter is not necessarily a bad thing for someone to have in a position such as president. If you believe dr. Drew. I'm not a medical clinician. I don't know anyone else on here who is.
Isn't hypermanic a mental dis-order?I don't know Dr.Drew,but when I was growing up,kids with unfiltered speech got whippings from their parents and eventually grew up.Adults like that probably had It easy all there life and were bullys that took what they wanted If they thought their target was weak.
 

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[h=1]Trump claims his golf courses are worth tens of millions. Until the tax bill arrives[/h]Source: Washington Post

When Donald Trump submitted financial disclosure forms to election regulators, he bragged that his portfolio included some of the “finest and most iconic properties in the world.” Among them was Trump National Golf Club Jupiter in Jupiter, Fla., which Trump valued at more than $50 million.

That came as a surprise to officials in Palm Beach County, where the golf course is located. A few months earlier, for the third straight year, Trump’s attorney had gone to court to argue that, for the sake of calculating his tax bill, the property was worth “no more than $5 million.”

A Washington Post review of local property records revealed the same pattern across most of Trump’s U.S. golf courses. For eight of the 10 courses on which he pays taxes, Trump reported in his May filing to the Federal Election Commission that the courses were worth tens of millions of dollars even as his attorneys have pressed local tax officials to value the properties at a fraction of those amounts.

The contrasting figures add to the mystery surrounding Trump’s personal finances, which have emerged as a campaign issue as he has refused to release his tax returns. And they reflect what critics say is Trump’s willingness to calibrate his wealth claims depending on the circumstances — going high to impress voters and back up his claim that he is worth $10 billion, a figure questioned by many experts, and going lower to argue for smaller tax bills.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...828f3a-5f3c-11e6-9d2f-b1a3564181a1_story.html






Pathetic Trump is the biggest liar, political fraud, and tax cheat anywhere. As the video above says, "he is not tied into reality". But then, this is true for a great many of his supporters as well.
 

gb9

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tell you what , trump goes public with his tax returns, Hillary goes public with how much money her foundation gets from muslim countries, then explain the way these countries treat gays and women. how would that be??
 
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