This idea that God is somehow being manipulated is crazy talk.
Was it not God who allowed both Moses and Abraham to "change" His mind?
Was it not God who COMMANDED us to heal the sick?
Was it not God who through His servant Paul commanded us to desire gifts?
We are NOT convincing Him, He is convincing us!
He doesn't need to be "manipulated" to love people or set them free. He is love. And where His Spirit is there IS freedom.
He doesn't need to be "manipulated" to save people. In this life or the next.
What He does INVITE US into is being a people of FAITH He is who He says He is. And He means what He says.
Why does He invite us? Because WE are His BODY. We CARRY His Spirit.
He needed a Man on Earth in Jesus to pay for our sins.
And He has given us the privilege of carrying His ministry of reconciliation.
Do YOU need to be manipulated to CARE for your kids?
And are YOU a better Father than He is?
When you say God will somehow allow a serpent to be given, when His children are asking for bread, you are saying He is a bad Father. And that's not the case at all.
How about YOU get some understanding on this Scripture here:
Luke 11:11What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; 12or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”
If people are ASKING for the Spirit of God do you think He is going to give them a scorpion? If you do, you're once again ignoring Scripture that proves you incorrect. Now get out of here with this "manipulating" God talk.
Was it not God who allowed both Moses and Abraham to "change" His mind?
Was it not God who COMMANDED us to heal the sick?
Was it not God who through His servant Paul commanded us to desire gifts?
We are NOT convincing Him, He is convincing us!
He doesn't need to be "manipulated" to love people or set them free. He is love. And where His Spirit is there IS freedom.
He doesn't need to be "manipulated" to save people. In this life or the next.
What He does INVITE US into is being a people of FAITH He is who He says He is. And He means what He says.
Why does He invite us? Because WE are His BODY. We CARRY His Spirit.
He needed a Man on Earth in Jesus to pay for our sins.
And He has given us the privilege of carrying His ministry of reconciliation.
Do YOU need to be manipulated to CARE for your kids?
And are YOU a better Father than He is?
When you say God will somehow allow a serpent to be given, when His children are asking for bread, you are saying He is a bad Father. And that's not the case at all.
How about YOU get some understanding on this Scripture here:
Luke 11:11What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; 12or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”
If people are ASKING for the Spirit of God do you think He is going to give them a scorpion? If you do, you're once again ignoring Scripture that proves you incorrect. Now get out of here with this "manipulating" God talk.