many wives is this a sin?

[lv2ski]

My plan would be just to be joined to a woman by God with the blessing of God.
The rest would take care of itself as Jesus said...

Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

And I certainly would give no thought to as how many wives another man has or had.
I have better things to do with my time and thoughts.

Sir, please stop sharing your ignorance of the Christian faith on this site. You're only a source for contention and confusion.

But there's hope. You're still breathing and there's time to brought to true doctrine.

1) read the gospels (matt-john) 89 chapters, youcan do that in a month easy. 3 ch/day
2)in the evening start reading from Acts through Revelation, at very steady pace. Like 2+ ch/night.
3)prayer, group at church as well as private at home, with more time listening than talking. He will speak if you will listen.
4)worship, listen to and take part in.
5)take communion. Remember what Jesus did for us. Like he said.
Acts 2:42

This is the Christian life. This is urgent for you.

 

[Ultimatum77]

I disagree with all this you have said to me. If you do not like it then you can blame me for making you read and reply to what I post. I will carry your burden for you.

What a kind but ambiguous response....fyi....you don't have to carry a burden that does not exist lol....still no sharing your views on polygamy or if you practice it? I'll disgree with you but not judge you that's between you and God....

 

[Demi777]

It is a fact that Sodomy is a EVIL FRUIT! 1Cor 6:9-10
[h=1]1 Corinthians 6:9-10New King James Version (NKJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.[/FONT]

 

[FStell]

Sir, please stop sharing your ignorance of the Christian faith on this site. You're only a source for contention and confusion.

Alright I will not share anything of me with you no more.

 

[FStell]

What a kind but ambiguous response....fyi....you don't have to carry a burden that does not exist lol....still no sharing your views on polygamy or if you practice it? I'll disgree with you but not judge you that's between you and God....

Well I accept you for you. And I do not require you to change anything you believe.
I can endure your disapproval of me.

 

[Demi777]

It is a fact that Sodomy is a EVIL FRUIT! 1Cor 6:9-10
1 Corinthians 6:9-10New King James Version (NKJV)

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Never mind my first post. wrong topic. Heres 2 verses on Polygamy 1 Cor 7 and 1 Timothy 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

 

[AuntieAnt]

Put trolls on ignore to limit any more disruptions, dear brothers and sisters.

 

[FStell]

If you do not want me to post on this thread any more
then I will give you your way...after all Jesus said...

Matthew 5:41
And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

I will be more than happy to accommodate your will.

 

[AuntieAnt]

Our minds might not grasp it, but polygamy was biblically approved and as such common practice in days gone by.

That's a significantly limited understanding of biblical history that lacks so much. That wasn't the basis of the polygamy as a concept, nor a practice and how it formed to begin with. Additionally it's very convenient to wrap up someone else as having questionable motives when you personally are against a practice for your own reasons. However, whether you like it or not, the reality is there is biblical teaching of polygamy and practice of it to this day throughout various cultures for sound reason.

There is no Biblical teaching of polygamy, young lady. That word isn’t even in the Bible. No doubt you’ll find biblical accounts of polygamy, as well as polyamory, incest, rape, young boys & girls taken as concubines, bisexuality, homosexuality, bestiality, temple prostitution, adultery, fornication, etc. Would you also suggest that all of these things are acceptable practice for the simple fact that they are mentioned in the Bible?

You say God approves of poly relationships because it was "common practice". That makes about as much sense as saying prostitution is acceptable because it was common practice. After all, Rahab was a harlot and she is mentioned as being a woman of faith in the book of Hebrews.

Nothing of what you posted above merits godly wisdom. That type of thinking is nothing more than the deception of the New Age agenda which is in direct opposition to denying the flesh and walking in the spirit of Jesus Christ. Liberty in Christ is not the freedom to do as you please. It is the grace of Christ setting us free from carnality and the “common practices” (traditions) of the world.

And as for Rahab, she had been part of a depraved pagan culture but after helping Joshua's spies, she & her family were spared from destruction. Rahab turned away from her pagan practices and was incorporated with the Jewish people. She then married Salmon of the tribe of Judah and became the mother of Boaz.

 

[Magenta]

1 Timothy 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

A woman of God will obey this commandment.

A woman who rejects God will not obey this commandment.

I see you are all about ripping Scripture out of context and pretending it says something it does not to suit your sinful desires. How convenient for you! Such abuses have furthered the ambitions of many ungodly men. Your lifestyle preferences seem more aligned with Islam. They are all about denying what Jesus Christ taught, as are you, while following the example of their adulterous, war mongering pedophile hero. Unfortunately, in Islam you will only be allowed four wives. Would that suit your worldly lusts, and domineering spirit? You won't even listen to the men here. Your pretenses don't fly.

 

[AuntieAnt]

Btw, the Samaritan woman at the well had five husbands and was living with a man who wasn't her husband. That's a lot of partners. And even though Samaritans were despised by the Jews and the disciples questioned Jesus' association with her, the woman was chosen to be a witness for Christ. Without ever resorting to "convicting" or "condemning" the Samaritan woman, Jesus revealed himself to her as Lord. She went back into town and proclaimed with joy to everyone, "Come see a man who knows everything about me!" Many came to salvation because of her testimony. A woman with 5 husbands and a live-in lover evangelized her town for Christ.

Do you think after the Lord lovingly gave her eternal life in the spirit that she went right back to her old worldly ways? Do you think that set-free woman continued to believe it was acceptable to have lots of partners? Or do you think she was given a new & glorious perspective on life?

2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore if anyone is in Christ, they are a new creation, the old things passed away; behold, all things become new.

 

[watcher2013]

When your theology /opinion /view point is not in agreement with God's Word.
1 John 1:9...declares when we confess our sins HE forgives us.
confession is just coming in agreement with. Which in the case of God's means we change our thinking .

You gave a verse in deut about not multiplying wives to suppirt your view. But you have taken it out of context.
The reason being is tjat there is a chance that the heart of the king might turn away to the true God.
That is why the question is direct. If u can find verse the in the law that having many wives is a sin.it would be good to share rather than bashing and stating ur self righteous opinion.

 

[watcher2013]

Since Magenta DID give you a biblical answer but you didn't like it, I see your problem. Don't think it's anyone else's problem. It's just yours.

I might have missed it, can you please repost. Is it about deut, where it was encourage a king must not hace multiple wives?

 

[PennEd]

Yeah, but he also called David a man after His own heart. And we all know how...busy David was.

God calls David a man after His own heart because of David's incredible faith, NOT because he followed the will of God all the time.

This is really a variation of the works vs. Grace debate.

God loved David because of his belief that "if God is for us, who can be against us" Goliath could have been 100ft. It didn't matter to David. He BELIEVED God. It was NEVER about David's sin, although sin ALWAYS has consequences. In David's case it was the death of his baby son.

It IS NOT in God's will for men to have more than one wife. It NEVER was.

 

[watcher2013]

You're right, they had multiple wives, all had terrible consequences. It was a cultural norm back then. If you notice with the patriarchs, God only brought then their first one. THEY AND THEIR WIVES came up with thr bright idea to add. All had terrible consequences. Abraham didn't take Katurah until after Sarah died and he was never married to Haggar. He fathered Ismael which was and is a terrible consequence that WE ALL live with today.
Jacob only had 2 because he was tricked, the other two weren't his wives,but rather the sad consequence of a competiton for his love between the two.
David lost his first two sons because of sexual sins between his 2nd born and daughter by another wife, not to mention Bathsheba gate, who 5 produced his successor after God judged them by killing the child of their sin. Notice only Solomon, of all his sons ever did anything noted in the Bible.
Solomon went off into idolatry for a lot of his life because of them. And the nation of Israel was divided after his because of question to successor.

The Law stated in Deuteronomy 17 specifically, DO NOT multiply wives, gold or horses. Lest they turn your heart away from Me. Solomon was the Poster Boy for that one.
Proverbs--wisdom is known by her children... judging by the fruit, it is NO wisdom.
Plus it ruins the picture of our relationship with God that's in the NT. Moses did that when he smote the rock, misrepresenting the picture of Christ. God punished him, by not allowing him into the promise land. Messing with the pictures of Christ and His bride bring negative consequences at all times. When we sin God still loves us but we and He have to live with the consequences of it.

For every NT principle there is an OT picture. In this case,there's nothing in the affirmative.

I live in SE Idaho, we live close to LDS polygamists, it's a very sad situation.

Still not a direct answer.
your verse also talks about horses and gold,
David/ solomon have ma n y horses and gold.
it is not pick one and thats it.
David sin was because he order the murder of uriah to get bathsheeba.
Solomon sin was serving other gods/ making idols for her wives.
That is turning their heart away from the true God. BUT NO SIN FOR THEM HAVING MANY WIVES.

 

[lv2ski]

How do you know that by reading and comparing/measuring the two
you will not make an error in your comprehension of the text?

Jesus said, if you have ears to hear, then hear. It's more of a choice than it is ability to comprehend.

Again, just try it, it's not difficult. Unless you refuse to accept what the actual author of the bible says.

There's a stern warnings in the scriptures on the hardness of the heart. It's wilful, not accidental. The Word is not difficult to understand, it's just needs to be obeyed.
Believe, then you will see. A lot of your questions will be answered as you submit to His Word. Not before!

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Here is my advice to you a man that do not believe
that God wants you to have more than one wife.

Do not marry more than one wife.

Here is my advice to you a man that do not believe
that God wants your neighbor to have more than one wife.

Mind your own business.

Why oh why can't I just ignore the trolls?
You are to follow the law of your country.
I am pretty sure that US law does not allow multiple wives

 

[AuntieAnt]

You gave a verse in deut about not multiplying wives to suppirt your view. But you have taken it out of context.

The reason being is tjat there is a chance that the heart of the king might turn away to the true God.
That is why the question is direct. If u can find verse the in the law that having many wives is a sin.it would be good to share rather than bashing and stating ur self righteous opinion.

Deuteronomy 17:17 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray.

So you want to put aside this godly wisdom for a moment in order to request "proof" that desiring multiple partners is "sin"?

Well now, there's the rub.........

Jesus knows the motives of our hearts. When people came to him with questions about the law, he always knew they were looking for loopholes, wanting to justify themselves. For out of the heart the mouth speaks.

The Lord teaches that we no longer walk according to our fleshly desires but walk according to the spirit of life in him. We are to trust him to lead us, not try to incorporate his teachings with our carnal desires.

Jesus said, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.”

Renouncing and turning away from idolatry and self-interests in the world, having our hearts set on Christ alone that he may draw the lost world to him through our godly lives and our godly speech.

John 8:34
Jesus answered them, Truthfully I say to you, whoever commits sin is the servant of sin.

Sin is being motivated by our own desires, or walking according to the lust of the flesh (carnal thinking, worldly intellect). It is in opposition to being led by the spirit of life in Jesus Christ.

You stated that you are not interested in marrying more wives. Yet you posted that your wife was ok with it if you did. So evidently, you must have asked her about it. If you are not interested in additional wives, why did you ask your wife about it? And why do you continue to post in favor of it? Anyone who says they are not for something would not keep promoting it.

I don’t hear the law of liberty in Christ Jesus in your posts, I don’t read anything glorifying God in your posts, praising him for deliverance from the world. I don’t see in your posts "picking up your cross and following Christ." I hear you defending flesh.

 

[Depleted]

Just because someone cuts and paste some verses from the bible to here and then claims it is biblical answers that makes them right in a debate does not mean anything is proven except that they can cut and paste verses from the bible to here and claim it makes them biblically right in a debate.

I agree. Cut-paste are too often used to get an answer wanted, rather than the biblical answer. Sooo, just because you didn't go and put it into context to find out it jolly well DOES FIT, don't put it on me like I didn't.

I did!

If you don't like people playing cut-and-paste with scripture, look it up to see the context instead of scolding someone who does as if that is any kind of defense!

For once, this is a perfect example of the real meaning behind the phrase "strawman."

 

[Depleted]

Have you noticed I have not spoken one word of evil about you. I am setting the example for you.
After all you are the weaker vessel.

Your "stronger vessel" holds no water though. Metal colanders are less likely to break than a teacup, but they are useless for drinking.