Two useless/inappropriate/wrong accusations

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I try that, Notice I have not responded to anything a person said today, We will see how the day progresses..lol

Good job! We know what the purpose of the "baiting" is and it never does anyone any good to respond to this type of mindset until repentance is manifested.

I encourage you to continue. It'll save a lot of craziness from being brought forth not to mention a whole lot of useless talk. The Lord is your guard and the guard of all of us in the body of Christ. All is well!...:)
 
Even demons believe and tremble. Amen..

Mental assent (Mere belief) never saved anyone, or got anyone to do one work.

Once you see the tension between verses, you begin to see that tension everywhere you read. You begin to see that there are ditches on BOTH sides of the road. But it doesn't make you...fearful...it more just...stuns you for a bit...
 
Yes. More goosebumps - the Holy Spirit telling me that what you have said is good and true. :)

I will never forget. On NCIS when Zeva's father was shot, and she entered the room, She did not trust her Father, and she was angry with him, in many areas, But when she saw her father laying there, She Screamed ABBA!!!!!!!

That is when it hit home. Thats the way we are with God. We may not trust him and may even get angry wiht him, but when it comes down to it (to those who are his true children) We Love our ABBA..
 
no they are not lying. I caught YOU in a straight-up lie a couple of weeks ago. you stated that you do not tell others what they believe. you do this all the time. so, saying that you do not do something that you do is lie.
so this in itself disqualifies you from you own system.

This gets into the world of semantics, or what words mean.

If I say I am a christian, someone can say I must therefore follow Christ and His words.

Is that them saying what I believe or explaining their understanding of the words I am a christian?

Now to cut to the chase. I always try and draw out the meaning of the words and lay them out.
Now the person themselves may deny this is what the words mean, and they meant something
else, but need to fill in the explanation.

The problem is most people use words in a flaky way, so rather than meaning what they are saying
they follow a belief system without working it through.

So often someone will say, I did not mean that. Now what is a lie and what is the truth?
Is the truth what the words mean or what they thought they said?

It is amusing that me doing this is sinful. Now I am not saying what people believe, but
drawing out conclusion from their words. And I attempt to do this is an honest way.

So for me, this is not telling someone what they believe, but explaining the consequences
of what they believe. I hope this helps, but then your intention was never friendly, lol.
 
I was thinking that must be the verse you were saying you wouldn't bring up yet, because it's the first one He brought to my mind. :)

no it was about faith and salvation.. I was not sure what you meant about what kind of faith. and did not want to assume anything..
 
I will never forget. On NCIS when Zeva's father was shot, and she entered the room, She did not trust her Father, and she was angry with him, in many areas, But when she saw her father laying there, She Screamed ABBA!!!!!!!

That is when it hit home. Thats the way we are with God. We may not trust him and may even get angry wiht him, but when it comes down to it (to those who are his true children) We Love our ABBA..

And God sees that love that is in our hearts. He sees that we grieve when He shows us where we have been mistrusting Him. That love that grieves covers a multitude of sins. And there is that tension again...
 
And God sees that love that is in our hearts. He sees that we grieve when He shows us where we have been mistrusting Him. That love that grieves covers a multitude of sins. And there is that tension again...

That tension dissapears if we just go to Gods throneroom. hope up on his lap. And he assures us, He loves us, no matter how naughty we have been.. He just wants what is best for us, And those naughty things we do are harmful to us, and may even kill us..

Thats why the law will never help us, The law can not show us Grace, Only God can, We we come to him, confess, and see his loving hand that says I love you son (or daughter)

That is what gives us victory over sin, Who want to sin when we have a father like this? Knowing we hurt the one we love..


 
I wish people understood. Before Christ, Only one man could enter the room where God was present, And he had to have a rope tied to him in case he died, so they can pull his body out.

Through Christ, we have the ability to walk right up to God. and he welcomes us with open arms. when he should strike us dead the moment we walk in.

Thats grace!
 
That tension dissapears if we just go to Gods throneroom. hope up on his lap. And he assures us, He loves us, no matter how naughty we have been.. He just wants what is best for us, And those naughty things we do are harmful to us, and may even kill us..

Thats why the law will never help us, The law can not show us Grace, Only God can, We we come to him, confess, and see his loving hand that says I love you son (or daughter)

That is what gives us victory over sin, Who want to sin when we have a father like this? Knowing we hurt the one we love..



Yes. I used to sometimes think that I was not being contrite enough when He showed me where I was lying and where I was mistrusting Him and so setting up plan B's in case He didn't come through. And one day, as I was saying I was so sorry after He showed me, I said, I am trying to be contrite and sorry before you but the joy that You showed me this that I was doing outweighs the sorriness and then I start praising You and thanking You - it's like I am trying to be sorry and show You I am sorry but You keep tickling me...!
 
Yes! Which make my confoundedness all the more amazing - like, how on earth could I receive so unspeakably great a mercy and yet be untrusting in ANY area??
 
I have to laugh. bdf is called a bible discussion forum.

So the topics avoided are:-
1. We are lost sheep of value to God
2. We are to praise ourselves and others on the good things God has done in us

Now the interesting point for me is I did not raise these points but others did, which
contradict scripture. And the force with which this contradiction is being put is
interesting. But it will be added to the consequences of a heretical theological
framework.

Now if they want to defend their position the opportunity is now, but if it clearly
contradicts scripture is it hard not to conclude it is heresy.
 
Hey guys, just don't do it, okay? We can continue in the great blessings we are receiving this morning and can continue being a blessing and receiving blessing from each other as He guides us.
 
Yes. I used to sometimes think that I was not being contrite enough when He showed me where I was lying and where I was mistrusting Him and so setting up plan B's in case He didn't come through. And one day, as I was saying I was so sorry after He showed me, I said, I am trying to be contrite and sorry before you but the joy that You showed me this that I was doing outweighs the sorriness and then I start praising You and thanking You - it's like I am trying to be sorry and show You I am sorry but You keep tickling me...!

This made me laugh and smile.. I wish I could rep you again!!
 
Yes! Which make my confoundedness all the more amazing - like, how on earth could I receive so unspeakably great a mercy and yet be untrusting in ANY area??

whats more amazing, is how can someone who have experienced this love and forgiveness. Ever lose faith completely to the point, they do not even believe in Christ anymore.
 
Hey guys, I have been wanting to ask you all something...when I return to a thread and read all of the posts from since I left, should I make replies as I go along (which is what I do) or should I read all the posts first? I really don't know which way is most helpful or easy to you guys...
 
Hey guys, just don't do it, okay? We can continue in the great blessings we are receiving this morning and can continue being a blessing and receiving blessing from each other as He guides us.

No problems. Hopefully people just ignore the nonsense. And praise God and serve each other.
 
Hey guys, I have been wanting to ask you all something...when I return to a thread and read all of the posts from since I left, should I make replies as I go along (which is what I do) or should I read all the posts first? I really don't know which way is most helpful or easy to you guys...

I don;t know. a thread yesterday, I answered as I read.. Then I hade like a whole page of nothing but me, It was odd.. lol