Woman Pastor Explains Her Abortion

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In your ignorance you claim I blame Him.
Have you gone thru something bc you are full of hate.
God does not act nor think like u
I have a relationship outside of cc with Utah and what you say here is wrong.....flat wrong.
 
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if that were Gods way sure!! but who are we to decide who he gives life to again? They are murdering His creation and for whatever reason He gives them more to decide what to do with..

I don't like abortion, my friend has had plenty plenty, but God gives life to her still.. Why?
I chose long ago to not hold it against them bc its obviously none of my business
I understand where you are coming from. I don't really see your friend's situation as God giving her life continually. It's true that God could intervene and not allow her to conceive. I think that God for the most part does not interfere with conception and allows things to take their natural course. If he stopped every unfit parent from conceiving, the population would die out quickly, lol. God is also merciful and gives penitent sinners a chance to have a new and fulfilled life. Just because he is merciful doesn't mean our sin is any less horrific though.

I don't think that a woman who has had an abortion is beyond redemption or the ability to become a good mother in the future. However, an abortion is not an "oops" moment. It's the destruction of life. Any woman who fluffs an abortion off as being anything other than a huge sin doesn't really understand the character of God. God is the giver of life and loves children. " Suffer the little children to come to me." It is really tragic that this female minister or any other Christian woman would choose to defend abortion. If she was truly penitent for her behavior this wouldn't even be a thread.

Christians have every right to judge her and anyone else who publicly defend sin and justify murder. It's not our business what others do with their pregnancies is and isn't true. Yes, it's legal and their business. But, I'm not sure we would say this if we saw our friend murdering their 2 year old. This woman in this article made her abortion our business when she chose to use her story as a political statement. She is telling her story to defend and protect legalized abortion. She became an abortion advocate when she published her story. We would be failing as Christians to support her in this public justification of sin
 
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Utah

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In your ignorance you claim I blame Him.
Have you gone thru something bc you are full of hate.
God does not act nor think like u
My problem is there are too many liberals in the world. And I'd say that if there were only two liberals in the world. You dislike the fact that I'm not politically correct, for instance I have no problem stating I dislike it when people coddle perpetrators while simultaneously dump on their victims. Deal with it or put me on ignore.
 
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I understand where you are coming from. I don't really see your friend's situation as God giving her life continually. It's true that God could intervene and not allow her to conceive. I think that God for the most part does not interfere with conception and allows things to take their natural course. If he stopped every unfit parent from conceiving, the population would die out quickly, lol. God is also merciful and gives penitent sinners a chance to have a new and fulfilled life. Just because he is merciful doesn't mean our sin is any less horrific though.

I don't think that a woman who has had an abortion is beyond redemption or the ability to become a good mother in the future. However, an abortion is not an "oops" moment. It's the destruction of life. Any woman who fluffs an abortion off as being anything other than a huge sin doesn't really understand the character of God. God is the giver of life and loves children. " Suffer the little children to come to me." It is really tragic that this female minister or any other Christian woman would choose to defend abortion. If she was truly penitent for her behavior this wouldn't even be a thread.

Christians have every right to judge her and anyone else who publicly defend sin and justify murder. It's not our business what others do with their pregnancies is and isn't true. Yes, it's legal and their business. But, I'm not sure we would say this if we saw our friend murdering their 2 year old. This woman in this article made her abortion our business when she chose to use her story as a political statement. She is telling her story to defend and protect legalized abortion. She became an abortion advocate when she published her story. We would be failing as Christians to support her in this public justification of sin
Yes, sister:) this is one of the best posts I've ever seen on here.
 

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I understand where you are coming from. I don't really see your friend's situation as God giving her life continually. It's true that God could intervene and not allow her to conceive. I think that God for the most part does not interfere with conception and allows things to take their natural course. If he stopped every unfit parent from conceiving, the population would die out quickly, lol. God is also merciful and gives penitent sinners a chance to have a new and fulfilled life. Just because he is merciful doesn't mean our sin is any less horrific though.

I don't think that a woman who has had an abortion is beyond redemption or the ability to become a good mother in the future. However, an abortion is not an "oops" moment. It's the destruction of life. Any woman who fluffs an abortion off as being anything other than a huge sin doesn't really understand the character of God. God is the giver of life and loves children. " Suffer the little children to come to me." It is really tragic that this female minister or any other Christian woman would choose to defend abortion. If she was truly penitent for her behavior this wouldn't even be a thread.

Christians have every right to judge her and anyone else who publicly defend sin and justify murder. It's not our business what others do with their pregnancies is and isn't true. Yes, it's legal and their business. But, I'm not sure we would say this if we saw our friend murdering their 2 year old. This woman in this article made her abortion our business when she chose to use her story as a political statement. She is telling her story to defend and protect legalized abortion. She became an abortion advocate when she published her story. We would be failing as Christians to support her in this public justification of sin

I agree 100%, it also became our business when a Pastor chose to get an abortion it it challenged the faith of many Christians and what they believe is right and wrong. This obviously divided many Christians and us who are against are allowed to speak against it and say this is against biblical teachings.
 

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My problem is there are too many liberals in the world. And I'd say that if there were only two liberals in the world. You dislike the fact that I'm not politically correct, for instance I have no problem stating I dislike it when people coddle perpetrators while simultaneously dump on their victims. Deal with it or put me on ignore.
You have proven yourself to be a liar when you said that people were championing abortion. No one has done this.
 

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I guess it will be better to let the mother die then to offend your so-called Christian principles
 

Dude653

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And what principles would those be?
I think we all know it's obvious that a Christian should be against abortion but in a situation when the mother's life is at risk see you just let her die?
 

Sirk

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I think we all know it's obvious that a Christian should be against abortion but in a situation when the mother's life is at risk see you just let her die?
I've never argued against saving moms life. But then again we sort of made our own bed haven't we. Remember when God told eve that she would have great pains in childbirth?
 

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I guess it will be better to let the mother die then to offend your so-called Christian principles
My Christian principles is for the strong to lay down their life for the weak. You prove yourself more and more unfit to be called Christian with each post. Put me on ignore, Scarecrow.
 

Utah

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I think we all know it's obvious that a Christian should be against abortion but in a situation when the mother's life is at risk see you just let her die?
In other words, the Hell with the baby.
 

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My Christian principles is for the strong to lay down their life for the weak. You prove yourself more and more unfit to be called Christian with each post. Put me on ignore, Scarecrow.
You have repeatedly lied on this post when said people are championing abortion....no here has done that, nor did she.. waaaah...she spoke against Trump......so what? It's called freedom from speech
 

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While this "pastor" and I use that term very broadly has demonstrated very poor judgment in opting for an abortion and has show a lack of faith in what God can do for those He loves it is her right to have the abortion.

She should not be permitted to stand in any pulpit to represent Gods word. She likely does not believe much that is written therein and is a very poor example of how we are to live and trust God to supply our needs.

Should a Christian place their life above the life of another? Especially the life of an unborn child. Of course she is for Hillary she has the same heart that Hillary has and the same distain for God.

For the cause of Christ
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Dude653

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Kinda like you "Christians" who spew hatred with every breath....gotcha
 
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No one is spewing hatred. I think that is unfair to state about the posters in this thread. We strongly disagreed with the position this woman publicly took and have judged her words to be unfit speech for a minister of Christ. So yes, some of our responses were strong. There is a difference though between hate and judgement. Not one of us have wished harm on her or claimed that she was irredeemable. Some of us have even stated that we understand that she was in a terrible position during her pregnancy and faced with tough choices. Our criticisms have focused on the minister rather than the woman. I can feel great pity on the woman in her personal life, but none for the minister who defends abortion and encourages the government to keep late term abortion on the books.

Christians are called to be a light to the world and salt of the earth. If we become afraid to take a stand for mortality and just excuse every sin, we fail God in the purpose he ordained for us. It is far easier to take on the role of nice person and take the position that we must accept everything that a person does or says. The secular world is never going to get rid of legalized abortion or any other practice that violates God's commands. It remains to the Christians to be that voice in society and enlighten the minds of others. How can we accomplish this if our own " ministers" urge the government to keep abortion legal?
 

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I understand where you are coming from. I don't really see your friend's situation as God giving her life continually. It's true that God could intervene and not allow her to conceive. I think that God for the most part does not interfere with conception and allows things to take their natural course. If he stopped every unfit parent from conceiving, the population would die out quickly, lol. God is also merciful and gives penitent sinners a chance to have a new and fulfilled life. Just because he is merciful doesn't mean our sin is any less horrific though.

I don't think that a woman who has had an abortion is beyond redemption or the ability to become a good mother in the future. However, an abortion is not an "oops" moment. It's the destruction of life. Any woman who fluffs an abortion off as being anything other than a huge sin doesn't really understand the character of God. God is the giver of life and loves children. " Suffer the little children to come to me." It is really tragic that this female minister or any other Christian woman would choose to defend abortion. If she was truly penitent for her behavior this wouldn't even be a thread.

Christians have every right to judge her and anyone else who publicly defend sin and justify murder. It's not our business what others do with their pregnancies is and isn't true. Yes, it's legal and their business. But, I'm not sure we would say this if we saw our friend murdering their 2 year old. This woman in this article made her abortion our business when she chose to use her story as a political statement. She is telling her story to defend and protect legalized abortion. She became an abortion advocate when she published her story. We would be failing as Christians to support her in this public justification of sin
Post of the year! God bless you, dear sister.
 

Utah

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If the mother dies, the baby dies anyway. Why let them both die?
Not necessarily true. Stop with your hyperboles. And quit saying I'm lying all the time because I'm not lying at all; I'm speaking from the heart but the problem is you don't like what I say. Put me on ignore, Scarecrow.