Political Question

[Willie-T]

Can anyone explain to me why, in the Electoral College, each state, no matter the size, does not have the same number of votes to be cast?

As it now stands, the candidates can effectively ignore the lesser populated states, concentrating only on those with a high Electoral count, and win by securing a relatively small number of states for their side.

It flabbergasts me that a state like mine (Florida) with 29 Electoral votes can be won by only 51%, and then the candidate has ALL 29 VOTES cast for only them..... even though almost half of the people in this state wanted the other candidate.

We use the "popular vote" for every other office... Why not for the president, too?

 

[p_rehbein]

How the Electoral College Works

The current workings of the Electoral College are the result of both design and experience. As it now operates:

• Each State is allocated a number of Electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives (which may change each decade according to the size of each State's population as determined in the Census).
• The political parties (or independent candidates) in each State submit to the State's chief election official a list of individuals pledged to their candidate for president and equal in number to the State's electoral vote. Usually, the major political parties select these individuals either in their State party conventions or through appointment by their State party leaders while third parties and independent candidates merely designate theirs.
• Members of Congress and employees of the federal government are prohibited from serving as an Elector in order to maintain the balance between the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.
• After their caucuses and primaries, the major parties nominate their candidates for president and vice president in their national conventions

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How the Electoral College Works

 

[Susanna]

Can anyone explain to me why, in the Electoral College, each state, no matter the size, does not have the same number of votes to be cast?

As it now stands, the candidates can effectively ignore the lesser populated states, concentrating only on those with a high Electoral count, and win by securing a relatively small number of states for their side.

It flabbergasts me that a state like mine (Florida) with 29 Electoral votes can be won by only 51%, and then the candidate has ALL 29 VOTES cast for only them..... even though almost half of the people in this state wanted the other candidate.

We use the "popular vote" for every other office... Why not for the president, too?

Because our founding fathers didn't believe the plebeians could be trusted in such serious issues as voting...

 

[p_rehbein]

Y'all ever think that in 1776...uh, er, golly wow geezzzee, THERE WAS NO INTERNET, NO TV, NO RADIO, NO CARS, TRAINS, VERY FEW ROADS...........AND NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO CAMPAIGN IN EVERY CITY OF EVERY STATE IN THE UNION?

Some guy on a horse trying to do a "Grand Tour" of the States to win votes!

This is but one thing to consider when doubting the wisdom behind the decision of the Founding Fathers.

 

[Susanna]

Y'all ever think that in 1776...uh, er, golly wow geezzzee, THERE WAS NO INTERNET, NO TV, NO RADIO, NO CARS, TRAINS, VERY FEW ROADS...........AND NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO CAMPAIGN IN EVERY CITY OF EVERY STATE IN THE UNION?

Some guy on a horse trying to do a "Grand Tour" of the States to win votes!

This is but one thing to consider when doubting the wisdom behind the decision of the Founding Fathers.

I'd say our founding fathers were indeed correct.

 

[tanakh]

Just two of the governments I have in mind ae the UK's new Theresa Mae and the Spaish government. There are many more, some in the easter countries, and many elsewhere.

Now I am not posting in regard to a preferred or not preferred form of government. My post is intended to point towards many of the prophecies of the Old and t he New Testament. Anhyone who even begins to entertain the thought that Jesus Christ hs anything to do with Caesar or Herod is not understanding the spirit of the post.

Again, no polititian is honest, and there are statistics proving this. I love Jesus Christ. He is the savior and the One to follow.

Anyone here who things a man can save people other than Jesus is not familiar with Jesus.

Follow the Lamb.

There is nothing Fascist about Theresa May she is head of a democratically elected government and like other past leaders
will hold a general election when the time comes to do so.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Does there seem to be an international fascist movement underway disguised as democracy?

Does this bring to mind the prophecies of the end times?

It seems in upcoming elections in various countries , depending on who wins, the future right to vote may be a thing of the past.

I never liked politicians and I like them even less today. They act like gods but have no solutions.

Follow the Lamb of God, amen.

It would be a good way to set the stage for the antichrist. I think what you're talking about is what's now called globalism. It's an effort to control the world's population through bigger government that makes people more dependent on them for basic things. The goal is to make the people completely dependent on the government so that they are powerless to resist any oppression they want to inflict.

As an example, Obamacare is/was a grab for control of the US health insurance industry which happens to make up 1/6th of the entire US economy. I'm not trying to make this political. I'm just citing an example. Under Obamacare, people are forced to buy health insurance and are fined if they don't and the insurance companies have to offer plans that meet the published obamacare standards. Plus people are no longer able to keep the doctor they want or the healthcare plan they want. (Not saying that obama is the AC either)

 

[zeroturbulence]

Can anyone explain to me why, in the Electoral College, each state, no matter the size, does not have the same number of votes to be cast?

As it now stands, the candidates can effectively ignore the lesser populated states, concentrating only on those with a high Electoral count, and win by securing a relatively small number of states for their side.

It flabbergasts me that a state like mine (Florida) with 29 Electoral votes can be won by only 51%, and then the candidate has ALL 29 VOTES cast for only them..... even though almost half of the people in this state wanted the other candidate.

We use the "popular vote" for every other office... Why not for the president, too?

I was told decades ago that the electoral college is designed to give more weight to the industrial states and less weight to the agricultural states because they believed that people who farm are less educated (because u don't need a college degree to be a farmer).

And if you look at the map, it makes sense that way. The states with strong industry have more weight.

 

[zeroturbulence]

(continues......)

And if you look at the EC map, it makes sense that way. The states with strong industry have more weight. Texas has oil, Ohio and pennsylvania were big with steel production and mining, Virgina was big with mining, Florida is the only one that doesn't makes sense unless it was big in some industry at the time the EC was mapped out.

 

[p_rehbein]

I was told decades ago that the electoral college is designed to give more weight to the industrial states and less weight to the agricultural states because they believed that people who farm are less educated (because u don't need a college degree to be a farmer).

And if you look at the map, it makes sense that way. The states with strong industry have more weight.

Problem...........

If you check, methinks you will find that the electoral college system was created sometime around 1780 or 81.......most of the Power States that now exist were not around then..........simple search will reveal lots of info about this.


Three Links to kinda get folks started.....


Electoral College - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

The Electoral College - Origin and History


Electoral College (United States) - Wikipedia

 

[JaumeJ]

Does anyone sense prophesy being fulfilled in this possible world-wide mvement that tends two faschism?

 

[JaumeJ]

Has the outcome of the US election caused this v-oid of CC participation? It is a curious notion.

 

[resurrection33]

Does anyone sense prophesy being fulfilled in this possible world-wide mvement that tends two faschism?

Yesterday and today I was wondering if secular progressivism in the United States isn't leading to fascism, but then the Lord allowed Donald Trump to win the election, which is a step away from fascism, I think.

 

[resurrection33]

Has the outcome of the US election caused this v-oid of CC participation? It is a curious notion.

Are you saying that participation is down?

 

[JaumeJ]

It seems to be.

Are you saying that participation is down?

 

[JaumeJ]

There is a world movement towards fascism. Even what has been considered the left wing or more precisely, socialism has moved so far to the center it has passed it and become right wing light.

Not to worry..........our Maker will detrmine the outcome of all things on His Day. It has been interesting in my short stay here in this age to see the changes towards His ultimate return. Man is doig what God knew man would dow when not regarding God. Our Father does not force men to do aything, but being the Creator, He knows what godless men will do..........this does not mean the family in Jesus Christ, God bless you...........

Yesterday and today I was wondering if secular progressivism in the United States isn't leading to fascism, but then the Lord allowed Donald Trump to win the election, which is a step away from fascism, I think.

 

[resurrection33]

It seems to be.

I noticed that too. Maybe people are catching their breath.

 

[resurrection33]

There is a world movement towards fascism. Even what has been considered the left wing or more precisely, socialism has moved so far to the center it has passed it and become right wing light.

Not to worry..........our Maker will detrmine the outcome of all things on His Day. It has been interesting in my short stay here in this age to see the changes towards His ultimate return. Man is doig what God knew man would dow when not regarding God. Our Father does not force men to do aything, but being the Creator, He knows what godless men will do..........this does not mean the family in Jesus Christ, God bless you...........

Jesus tells us that Satan rules this world - well, actually, he just tell us that God DOESN'T rule this word. Anyway, it seems to me God does step in sometimes and right the ship. God bless you, too.

 

[JaumeJ]

A watch maker knows how his finished product will function.........no need to predict because he made it If it is a wind watch, he also can tell you it will run down, for that is the nature of teh mechanism.

Our Father is much more than a wath maker. This is wonderful to know.

As for intervention is concerned, yes, He will hear His children and heed them when it is in His will, just as our Lord asked for that cup to pass from Him if it was the Father's will. It was not the Father's will, and our Savior, being Lord of all, drank the cup to the bottom for us all.

God is always doing the strangest things just for me, and probably just for you. You would ot believe some of my "little miracles, and dI would probably have difficulty understanding yours, but I know He does everything just for us.


Thanks for hearing, and god bless you......

 

[Persuaded]

Has the outcome of the US election caused this v-oid of CC participation? It is a curious notion.

Well, some are crying their eyes out and trying to understand why, while others are celebrating and trying to understand how.
May be awhile before things get back to normal.