Alexander Hamilton Chastises Pense

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Dude653

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he's insane, is he?

just another rocket launched out of the deep hole of your superior intellect no doubt

you do not qualify your statements

you simply post insipid and ignorant sentiments and have done so since day one of your appearance in these forums
Like I have said on several different threads, he's a theocrat who says his religion is higher than the Constitution.
 

Dude653

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I wondered when you would finally come out and say it. You actually DO think the Constitution, a piece of paper, is higher than the God the rest of us worship.
No but we have separation of church and state for a reason. Theocracy would be tyranny. You can't legislate religion or you end up with Muslim Sharia law
 

maxwel

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Like I have said on several different threads, he's a theocrat who says his religion is higher than the Constitution.
Dude653,

I'm very curious to see evidence of this.
You and I may or may not disagree on things, but if you have evidence of this, I'd be genuinely interested to see it.


1. If you have the info, please post it, and source it properly...
so we can all see exactly what was said, and also verify it.


2. I'd also like to see the context of whatever was said.
For example, there is a clear difference in saying something like:
A. You place your religion above the constitution "in your own personal life, to establish your own personal ethics"...
or ...
B. Saying that you place your religion above the constitution "with the intent to force everyone to follow your religion".

* Context matters... so please post, and source enough info that we can see the context.



3. If you can post the info, give proper sourcing for the info, and show the info in context...
then we can all take it seriously, and discuss it.



4. If you cannot post and source the info, in context... then we really can't discuss it... even if we want to.

Thanks.
Max
 
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CharlieGrown

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You can't legislate religion or you end up with Muslim Sharia law
Even if anyone here wanted to "legislate religion", how do you qualify this? :confused:
 
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As much as I love Hamilton, I do think this was in poor taste. If "conversation" was what they were after, then they shouldn't do it when they are on stage and only they have that platform to speak, with an audience that was largely against Pence, and when Pence could not respond right then and there. That doesn't sound like a conversation to me. Conversations are on equal terms. I know if I were there and they felt the notion to directly call me out while on stage with an audience that's against me and I did not have the power to respond at the moment, I would not appreciate that one bit.
That's fair, multilingualmessenger.
 

Dude653

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Even if anyone here wanted to "legislate religion", how do you qualify this? :confused:
I was responding to Willie's comment who was making the accusation that I think a piece of paper is higher than God....Again, our constitution clearly says separation of church and state so if you ignore that part and you might as well throw out the entire Constitution. Theocracy is tyranny. We have to have secular laws to protect against religious persecution.,.. that's why we don't burn witches at the stake anymore or execute homosexuals
 

Magenta

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No but we have separation of church and state for a reason. Theocracy would be tyranny. You can't legislate religion or you end up with Muslim Sharia law
How and why would a Christian theocracy institute Muslim Sharia law? You make no sense.
 
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LaurenTM

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Like I have said on several different threads, he's a theocrat who says his religion is higher than the Constitution.

I don't really pay much attention to what you say

it's just a shame you post as you do

you can live and die and even pray to the constitution

it should serve you well until some judge decides he/she knows better

you can also separate what you call religion and state..but the One who created All things makes no such separation

you seem to believe in religion and that is the problem

I learned a long time ago that anyone can call themself a Christian ... even a muslim in office can say that

I don't think your views are Christian quite frankly
 

Magenta

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I was responding to Willie's comment who was making the accusation that I think a piece of paper is higher than God....Again, our constitution clearly says separation of church and state so if you ignore that part and you might as well throw out the entire Constitution. Theocracy is tyranny. We have to have secular laws to protect against religious persecution.,.. that's why we don't burn witches at the stake anymore or execute homosexuals
Our laws are based on Biblical, Christian principles.
 
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LaurenTM

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he's a theocrat who says his religion is higher than the Constitution.
I am more than a little certain he is far too intelligent to think the US of A would go along with that notion

sounds more like you have a genuine dislike for a person who understands there is a HIGHER AUTHORITY than the one men ascribe authority to

yeah...I'm starting to think that might the problem
 
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renewed_hope

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Again our constitution clearly says separation of church and state.
Thats one of our biggest problems.....we need God in America, we need him to direct our leaders and decisions. That's why it's of utmost importance to pray for our leaders
 
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LaurenTM

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Pence is being called a Christian Supremacist among other things.

here's a quote:

Trump may be a buffoon, but Pence is a cold, cruel, religious extremist with dreams of a Christian theocracy. - See more at: Mike Pence Promotes Christian Theocracy


he actually believes that creationism should be taught in school...you know, right up there with the gay agenda and birth control choices...how dare he!

he is also being called a conservative CHRISTIAN nightmare

so DUDE...this is where you are feeding...this is the trough you have decided to eat out of

like I said, it's a shame and I don't assume to believe you actually know what Christian values are, let alone the part they played in the morality of a country that was better served with those values

you, Dude, really need a wake up call

at least I realize your ideas are not original and you are simply carrying water for Christ haters and those who despise morality because they have chosen to shake their collective fists in the face of God

it will all be sorted out and maybe sooner rather than later

call on your constitution then...it won't be worth the paper it is written on, because it has not been upheld the last 8 years so why bother to shove it around now?
 
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Dude653

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Under a Christian theocracy then only Christians would have constitutional rights. No where in the Bible are we instructed to force our Christianity on anyone
 
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LaurenTM

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Under a Christian theocracy then only Christians would have constitutional rights. No where in the Bible are we instructed to force our Christianity on anyone



you have nothing to worry about

either way...you are good to go
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Under a Christian theocracy then only Christians would have constitutional rights. No where in the Bible are we instructed to force our Christianity on anyone
Thats not a completely baseless statement based on absolutely nothing but your own hate of Christians, nope.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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How and why would a Christian theocracy institute Muslim Sharia law? You make no sense.
I sometimes wonder if Dude has a Christian-hating atheist friend, or watches one on youtube, who has convinced him that Christianity=Islam. I dont think he really knows anything about either, but has an irrational fear of "religion" because of this person : p
 

Dude653

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Thats not a completely baseless statement based on absolutely nothing but your own hate of Christians, nope.
Separation of church and state. It's clearly written in the Constitution.
 

tourist

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Like I have said on several different threads, he's a theocrat who says his religion is higher than the Constitution.
Actually, he is correct in his way of thinking. If he is ever president he will defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic because that is what he would be sworn in to do but still it remains a secular document and can be changed at all time concerned parties agree to do so.
 
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LaurenTM

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Separation of church and state. It's clearly written in the Constitution.
where were you the last 8 years?

the constitution mean sandwich spread nothing the last 8 years

how disingenuous of you but I would expect nothing less from someone who has no actual concept of what they are talking about