Zone,
It tells us who they are ,
R 11:4, "These are the two olive trees,and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."
The parallel passage in Zech 4:1-14, tells us that these 2 olive trees are "the word of the Lord", v 6,
And "....the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord...", v14.
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If they were SEEN as the word of God, in the time of Zech,
Then these spirits were "present" at that time.
What was the "word of God" to Zerubbabel?
Zech 4:6-10.
The "word of God" to Zerubbabel is still with us today in the OT.
The 2 spirits still speak to us.
It is itself (this scripture), now witnessing in Jerusalem through the people there.
The words of God speak now in Jerusalem.
The spirits (people of Israel, flesh) that witness of Jesus ( through the OT), still speak as they have for thousands of years.
Those 2 witnesses, the Law and the Prophets, still speak to us, and the world today.
They are saying that Jesus is our Savior.
It tells us who they are ,
R 11:4, "These are the two olive trees,and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."
The parallel passage in Zech 4:1-14, tells us that these 2 olive trees are "the word of the Lord", v 6,
And "....the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord...", v14.
--
If they were SEEN as the word of God, in the time of Zech,
Then these spirits were "present" at that time.
What was the "word of God" to Zerubbabel?
Zech 4:6-10.
The "word of God" to Zerubbabel is still with us today in the OT.
The 2 spirits still speak to us.
It is itself (this scripture), now witnessing in Jerusalem through the people there.
The words of God speak now in Jerusalem.
The spirits (people of Israel, flesh) that witness of Jesus ( through the OT), still speak as they have for thousands of years.
Those 2 witnesses, the Law and the Prophets, still speak to us, and the world today.
They are saying that Jesus is our Savior.
jews don't keep the word of God, and they are taught to hate Jesus.
So, they don't read the Law of Moses any more in Israel?
They don't read the Prophets anymore?
These are "non-existent" in Israel?
Do you really believe that?
They don't read the Prophets anymore?
These are "non-existent" in Israel?
Do you really believe that?
I already showed you they admit happily to holding to the very traditions of the elders Jesus condemned their forefathers for.
Rome, The 4th beast of Dan. 7, the iron legs of Dan.2, is the woman of R ch 17.
The sea beast, earth beast, and the Antichrist are all Rome.
if its there, show me.
Yes, Jerusalem in that passage is called those, but not Babylon. .
it just messes up the theology you are so invested in, so you pass it by (even though I know it causes discomfort)
In R ch 11, there is no reference to any woman or Babylon.
To try to associate these together without scriptural support would be an assumption..
To try to associate these together without scriptural support would be an assumption..
The title of the woman in R ch 17, Babylon,
Traces her origin back to the tower of Babel, where men first fell away from Jehovah worship after the cleansing flood.
She is worship the creation, not the creator.
At the time of the Roman Empire, Caesar worship was "the thing"...
Traces her origin back to the tower of Babel, where men first fell away from Jehovah worship after the cleansing flood.
She is worship the creation, not the creator.
At the time of the Roman Empire, Caesar worship was "the thing"...
read the whole bible or we have no discussion.
i'll find an old thread on this - I used to spend a lot of time posting on it, but I can't be bothered much now.
nobody ever changes their mind/
The great harlot and Caesar worship is still with us today,
The RCC, that is, the Bishop of Rome (Caesar) is the Holy Father (god).
The RCC, that is, the Bishop of Rome (Caesar) is the Holy Father (god).