Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Hopefully, you'll come around one day to the idea that vitriolic sarcasm and endless banter isn't the best way to make a case -- rather the opposite, in fact.

...Ah, but who am I kidding?

Sit back, relax and learn, Grasshopper.

 

[Whassup]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

If no evidence exists to substantiate claims of widespread voter fraud

Liberals don't think it's wrong for illegal aliens to vote... so they are not going to cope to it even though under the law they cannot vote, which liberals think is racist, bigotry, homophobic, jim crow, bullying, etc,etc

He did indeed win. The thread's purpose is to discuss Trump's willingness to entertain baseless, rash accusations due to his ego, which is alarming.

And this is different from what liberals do ALL the time... how exactly?

From the liberal viewpoint, it's OK if they do it... but if repubs do it it's racist, bigotry, homophobic, jim crow, bullying, etc,etc

Liberals are demented and think anyone who does not agree with them is racist, bigotry, homophobic, jim crow, bullying, etc,etc

Besides, the biggest mistake being made on both sides of the isle is... people are trusting government rather than trusting the Lord God Almighty!

 

[maxwel]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Have you actually read all of his posts? How can you claim that his words aren't dripping with hostility thinly veiled as sarcasm?

Here's an example. "Im confident you started a thread on some chat site, somewhere, condemning her disgusting lies. Am I correct on that?"

That isn't implicitly hostile and unbecoming? I never claimed to endorse or support Hillary Clinton. In fact, I despise many aspects of Hillary Clinton.

"Implicitly hostile" and "unbecoming" based on exactly who's prescribed rule of measure?

Yours?

Something you carry in your pocket?

Something you make up as you go, whenever you feel upset?



You don't get to pop in here and MAGICALLY determine our rules for speech.

You have no authority here to dream up arbitrary rules for anything at all.




If you feel triggered by freedom of expression, then you need to go find a safe space.

We won't follow you.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

I have to agree that Trump's claim of millions of illegals voting is way out of the ball park. There maybe a couple hundred thousand at the most, but still, it is being done by the democrats and there has been evidence as recent as 2012...

Here's an exerpt from this article: Democrats Leverage Illegals and Voter Fraud to Put Hillary in the White House » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

...For instance, “witness after witness after witness” explained they were given voter registrations prior to the 2012 election and sent to states without voter identification laws and were told that unless they “show up and vote the democratic ticket, they would be arrested and deported.”



In 2008, an leftist organization called ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) ran a nationwide voter registration drives and was accused of various types of election fraud based on witness accounts and undercover investigations and some of the workers were charged and some ARORN workers admitted guilt!

ACORN was accused of the following based on witness accounts and undercover investigation:

• Failing to adequately monitor and supervise its employees to the point where the organization should be held responsible for what the employees did.
• Turning in "massive numbers" of duplicate registration cards.
• Turning in registration cards for fictional characters.
• Turning in registration cards filled out by children.
• Turning in registration cards where the signatures had been forged.

 

[Whassup]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

There maybe a hundred thousand at the most

Speculation at best... there are what 10, 15 million illegals here?

If they vote for hillery they know they get free stuff... so tell me why again there are not a few millions illegals that did not vote?

Did they not want free stuff???

 

[kaylagrl]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Speculation at best... there are what 10, 15 million illegals here?

If they vote for hillery they know they get free stuff... so tell me why again there are not a few millions illegals that did not vote?

Did they not want free stuff???

My family moved here legally on visas over a decade ago. We paid and filed all the papers to come into the country,and its not cheap,trust me. In the middle of all the filing of papers my father licence to drive expired. He was the only one that drove at the time,and his job was driving. The department of transportation refused to renew his licence even though we came into the country legally and were filing papers at the time. But illegal immigrants can come into this country and get a licence and every other benefit. Can you explain to me how that is fair? Ya,I dont have a problem believing illegals vote.

 

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

What happened to Grasshopper?

 

[NotmebutHim]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Now I want a "B.L.T."

 

[zeroturbulence]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Yes there are 10 to 15 million illegals.... That means at least 20% of them would have to vote to be millions (2 or more)... Getting 20 percent of a population to vote would be a nearly impossible feat in itself, let alone trying to do that with a population that is basically hiding from the law!

Dont get that confused with voter turnout numbers because those only take into account registered voters, not entire populations.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Not to mention the fact that most of those 10-15 million illegals are probably illiterate in english and wouldn't even have the faintest clue how to vote in the first place!

 

[peacenik]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Two days ago, Trump issued a remarkable and completely unsubstantiated claim, alleging that millions of voters cast their ballots illegally. However, no evidence was presented to support this claim, and experts and election officials are almost unanimous in their agreement that voter fraud is almost nonexistent. Organizations such as the Brennan Center for Justice, Factcheck, and the Associated Press all dismiss the notion that widespread voter fraud occurs. Lindsey Graham, a seasoned Republican politician, challenged Trump to back his assertion up and expressed confidence in the integrity of the 2016 presidential election results.

Despite all this, I think Trump's baseless suspicion of widespread voter fraud isn't the real issue. It's his utter lack of restraint and tact -- his whimsical attitude and bombastic ego on full display.

Neither trump nor anyone who demanded a recount has presented any evidence of wrongdoing.

 

[CharlieGrown]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

but both demands cannot change the fact that Hillary is toast:

 

[CharlieGrown]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Not to mention the fact that most of those 10-15 million illegals are probably illiterate in english and wouldn't even have the faintest clue how to vote in the first place!

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Zero, what in the name of crash test dummies is this?

 

[peacenik]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

but both demands cannot change the fact that Hillary is toast:

That much is true, politically. But remember what happened the last 2 times the GOP controlled both Congress and the White House. Hopefully, we won't be toast as well.

 

[CharlieGrown]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

That much is true, politically. But remember what happened the last 2 times the GOP controlled both Congress and the White House. Hopefully, we won't be toast as well.

War occurred. Maybe we can learn, maybe not. One thing is different, more are awake and I pray "We won't get fooled again!"

 

[peacenik]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

War occurred. Maybe we can learn, maybe not. One thing is different, more are awake and I pray "We won't get fooled again!"

Amen!

I tried to give you some good rep points for that post but was advised by the board that I need to spread some more around before doing so to you again.

 

[CharlieGrown]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Amen!

I tried to give you some good rep points for that post but was advised by the board that I need to spread some more around before doing so to you again.

Thanks bro, grateful for the sentiment.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Yes there are 10 to 15 million illegals.... That means at least 20% of them would have to vote to be millions (2 or more)... Getting 20 percent of a population to vote would be a nearly impossible feat in itself, let alone trying to do that with a population that is basically hiding from the law!

Dont get that confused with voter turnout numbers because those only take into account registered voters, not entire populations.

OK... I must digress (yet again! )


I just fact-checked myself using California's voter registration vs. population, and voter turnout numbers for this election and it says 70% of the eligible population registered to vote... and 80%+ of those registered actually voted.... So that means over 50% of the population of California voted. (i stand corrected)

But still, we're talking about illegals who want to stay under the radar because of fear of deportation and probably can't read or write english anyway... so there's probably a very small percentage that got to vote. (even though I hate to say that Trump is wrong)


But anyway... WHO really cares how many illgals voted! Trump WON!!

 

[HeraldtheNews]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Despite all this, I think Trump's baseless suspicion of widespread voter fraud isn't the real issue. It's his utter lack of restraint and tact -- his whimsical attitude and bombastic ego on full display.

Voter fraud is possible on both sides though and it is possible, considering the number of votes--and I'd like to see a number--
Do you want a strong leader who can make command decisions to lead a nation as powerful as America, or a mouse? If you look at the Old Testament Kings, which is a brutal, frightening history at times, and even the prophets, they were not there to be polite. Even Jesus stood up to the bad guys, the religious leaders, clearing the temple and calling them a "brood of vipers." The Old Testament, as brutal as it was at times, honors King David, who had a warrior's heart, but also a heart for God, which led God to say at times, "I will do this for the honor of my servant David." But, did the Son of David, Son of Man, and Son of God, ever start any wars or kill anyone? Or was/is He a spiritual warrior?

I like King Hezekiah's prayer in the Bible, who pleaded with God for his life when Isaiah said he was going to die. And in another place the Bible says, (The LORD) "because you have not asked for the head of your enemies," I will grant you this request. He is a God of mercy in the Old Testament and New Testament, but, I gave up trying to understand what motivated people and God 4,000 years ago. It still looks like it could be read on the front page of the newspaper today. The main thing is they got the job done-- 10 commandments, obeying God's commands, deliverance from bondage through the waters of the Red Sea, all which led to the last Bible prophet, John the Baptist, who led to Jesus of Nazareth, who fulfilled the Old Covenant Law, and began the New Covenant of Mercy and Grace, and the free-gift of receiving and living out Old Testament and New Testament salvation (being saved from sin, spiritual death, the world's blindness, and the separation from Heaven, or Hell and spiritual torment).

 

[HeraldtheNews]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

But anyway... WHO really cares how many illgals voted! Trump WON!!

You are the one I wanted to apologize to for making a hasty copy of your scripture verse from Corinthians. I was about to lose internet and didn't take the time to type it myself and where it says "the last trump," blew me away...