Prodigal son - eternally saved or the lost who found God
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jesus spoke many parables about many events and things.. Just read it as a person Jesus spoke to would read it.
what is a father,. What is a son, what is an inheritance.
Then ask yourself. Did the father disown the son when he left. Or did the father give HIS SON the blessing when he left. Then PRAISE and love him the moment he returned..
what is a father,. What is a son, what is an inheritance.
Then ask yourself. Did the father disown the son when he left. Or did the father give HIS SON the blessing when he left. Then PRAISE and love him the moment he returned..
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I see no resemblance to that in the parable. I think your reading to much into it.
Thge parable is talking about a blood born child of God. Who wants to go back into the world and try it himself. Who finds out, That is not a good idea, that the longer he stats away, the more painful his life gets. WHich causes him to remember his father, and rtetgurn.
And how at no point in the story did the father ever stop loving the son, He was still his son.
Thge parable is talking about a blood born child of God. Who wants to go back into the world and try it himself. Who finds out, That is not a good idea, that the longer he stats away, the more painful his life gets. WHich causes him to remember his father, and rtetgurn.
And how at no point in the story did the father ever stop loving the son, He was still his son.
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Well now I get why Ariel may think it is a Peter vs me thing. (I figured I would open up to read what he has been saying I should have known he was attacking me unprovoked again)
Peter I have you on ignore. I have stopped responding to you days ago. I respectfully request your do the same, it does not matter what I say, You take my words, twist them distort them, and make me say things I have never said.. You have made this a battle. I no longer wish to be a part of.
I am sick of your attack, Your slander and your lies against people. And your false gospel of works. YTou want to earn your salvation. Go try it. But leave me out of it.
I have every right to respond to doctrines. And things[people say in any thread as all people do. If you do not like it, put me on ignore.
Keep it up. I will report you. I am sick of your nonsense.
Peter I have you on ignore. I have stopped responding to you days ago. I respectfully request your do the same, it does not matter what I say, You take my words, twist them distort them, and make me say things I have never said.. You have made this a battle. I no longer wish to be a part of.
I am sick of your attack, Your slander and your lies against people. And your false gospel of works. YTou want to earn your salvation. Go try it. But leave me out of it.
I have every right to respond to doctrines. And things[people say in any thread as all people do. If you do not like it, put me on ignore.
Keep it up. I will report you. I am sick of your nonsense.
More clues that this is yet futuristic.
Out of the 3 angels mentioned in Revelation 14:6-11, this had never happened yet.
Revelation 14:[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,[SUP]10 [/SUP]The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:[SUP]11 [/SUP]And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Eternal torment awaits those that receive the mark to be able to buy and sell in this coming new world order.
This explains what the mark will do... give the bearer the ability to buy and sell in the coming new world order.
Revelations 13:[SUP]11 [/SUP]And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.[SUP]12 [/SUP]And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.[SUP]13 [/SUP]And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,[SUP]14 [/SUP]And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.[SUP]16 [/SUP]And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:[SUP]17 [/SUP]And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
It is common sense that the mark will be the biochip that people are using now to buy & sell in Europe but it is not the mark of the beast yet because it is not the only means to buy and sell.
The new world order will make it mandatory if any one wishes to buy and sell as resources will be pooled and controlled on that side of the world because one third of the earth got burned up.
That is the hour that shall try all upon the earth as Jesus promised one of the 7 churches in Revelation that they will escape from by not being on that earth to undergo that trial.
Revelation 3:[SUP]10[/SUP]Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.[SUP]11 [/SUP]Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Jesus also warned those that do not repent from spiritual fornication being committed in the church at Thyatira that they will be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation.
Revelation 2:[SUP]20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.[SUP]22[/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.[SUP]23 [/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
So no one can say that this had happened yet in our past nor happening in our present yet. So that is why I see this as yet to happen and why we should be going before that throne of grace for help from Jesus Christ, trusting Him to prepare us and have us ready to go when it is time because the Bridegroom is coming soon.
Out of the 3 angels mentioned in Revelation 14:6-11, this had never happened yet.
Revelation 14:[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,[SUP]10 [/SUP]The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:[SUP]11 [/SUP]And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Eternal torment awaits those that receive the mark to be able to buy and sell in this coming new world order.
This explains what the mark will do... give the bearer the ability to buy and sell in the coming new world order.
Revelations 13:[SUP]11 [/SUP]And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.[SUP]12 [/SUP]And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.[SUP]13 [/SUP]And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,[SUP]14 [/SUP]And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.[SUP]16 [/SUP]And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:[SUP]17 [/SUP]And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
It is common sense that the mark will be the biochip that people are using now to buy & sell in Europe but it is not the mark of the beast yet because it is not the only means to buy and sell.
The new world order will make it mandatory if any one wishes to buy and sell as resources will be pooled and controlled on that side of the world because one third of the earth got burned up.
That is the hour that shall try all upon the earth as Jesus promised one of the 7 churches in Revelation that they will escape from by not being on that earth to undergo that trial.
Revelation 3:[SUP]10[/SUP]Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.[SUP]11 [/SUP]Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Jesus also warned those that do not repent from spiritual fornication being committed in the church at Thyatira that they will be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation.
Revelation 2:[SUP]20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.[SUP]22[/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.[SUP]23 [/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
So no one can say that this had happened yet in our past nor happening in our present yet. So that is why I see this as yet to happen and why we should be going before that throne of grace for help from Jesus Christ, trusting Him to prepare us and have us ready to go when it is time because the Bridegroom is coming soon.
Eternal life cannot be lost; but the first inheritance can be lost which is the eternal glory that comes with our salvation of being that vessel unto honor in His House; hence the elder son's standing with the father.
How can the prodigal son not be seen as a vessel unto dishonor in His House for having lost his inheritance to wild living?
What is the point of the vessel unto dishonor being in His House? Answer: they testify to the power of God in salvation for all those that even believe in His name. That is a glory in His House that will not go away.
How can the prodigal son not be seen as a vessel unto dishonor in His House for having lost his inheritance to wild living?
What is the point of the vessel unto dishonor being in His House? Answer: they testify to the power of God in salvation for all those that even believe in His name. That is a glory in His House that will not go away.
I am interested mainly in one thing, walking with Jesus and encouraging His body
to do likewise.
And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
Heb 10:24-25
I love Jesus and desire people grasp this one thing,
"May have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ"
Eph 3:18
Halleluyah
to do likewise.
And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
Heb 10:24-25
I love Jesus and desire people grasp this one thing,
"May have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ"
Eph 3:18
Halleluyah
the son has to do something to be saved.
Well if you do not respond, duh, you are lost. Did you not read the label, you
have to believe to be saved?
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 3:16
Last time I looked belief is actually doing something, it does not just happen out
of the blue. But maybe that explains you and why you do not understand the
gospel properly, you never actually have belief....
Like prayer is speaking to God. You have to use words to speak to God.
It is doing something. Like repentance is renoucing evil, sin and proclaiming a desire
to do good, and confession is speaking out ones repentance and faith in Christ.
But again none of these things are doing anything. I wonder which God you follow,
or which bible you read. Maybe the school of dumber and dumber has come to town.
