Mark of the Beast --- 666

[garee]

The rise of technology and globalism coinciding with the fall of morals and Christianity also has me vigilant to the mark of the beast, but isn't there a very important and directly stated scripture we must remember to keep in context?

Revelation 20:4(KJV)
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

It is not a literal mark (we walk by faith the unseen eternal) but more like the mark of Cain identifying him as unconverted natural man who slew His brother and Abel’s soul identified, as if it was blood cries out from the ground.

We walk by faith and not by sight. Walking by sight after a sign is what the unbelieving performed before they would think they were trusting God. The last sign was given as the sign of Jonas. Christ informed those who did seek after sign it is an evil generation (natural man) that does seek after them(Matthew 12:39) .Believers are to walk by faith the unseen eternal , not by sight as that seen the temporal

Revelation is filled with highly symbolic prophecy. That parable has nothing to do with technology.

First a person cannot see a disembodied soul and Christ is His bride’s, spiritual head. Under the alter, is at the feet of Christ. Feet are used to express the gospel of our salvation.

Makes me wonder that when he does come will he find faith or men walking by sight after some work they could perform outwardly .

 

[garee]

I don't believe refusal to recieve the Mark of the beast is the critical factor in seeing these people beheaded ( yes i believe they will be physically executed by being beheaded) The critical factor is that they will refuse to worship the image of the beast..

Revelation 13: KJV
15 "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

I see the Mark of the beast to be a reward given to those who decide to worrship the image of the beast.. I believe those who refuse to worship the image of the beast will be barred from recieving the Mark of the Beast.. They will be executed instead.

Every believer receives the same reward "eternal life" . New creatures do not evolve by some work they could perform, they are created. It has nothing to do with what we do as a work of salvation, as if what we do has some thing that could ad to His finished work ..It is by the work of Christ's faith, alone, working in us to both will and do his good pleasure , according to His labor of love, not of ourselves lest any man boast they have earned a reward.

The beast is man, as that seen outwardly (antichrists plural) that were already there when Revelation was written .They are men being influenced by the father of lies who has no form, as the invisible the head, or god of this world using the bodies of men in a hope men will deny Christ. He is identified by his number 666. The number of natural unconverted man

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and hisnumber is Six hundred threescore and six.

The same mark in respect to Abel who slew his brother and became a fugitive and restless wanderer.

 

[abcdef]

It is not a literal mark (we walk by faith the unseen eternal) but more like the mark of Cain identifying him as unconverted natural man who slew His brother and Abel’s soul identified, as if it was blood cries out from the ground.

We walk by faith and not by sight. Walking by sight after a sign is what the unbelieving performed before they would think they were trusting God. The last sign was given as the sign of Jonas. Christ informed those who did seek after sign it is an evil generation (natural man) that does seek after them(Matthew 12:39) .Believers are to walk by faith the unseen eternal , not by sight as that seen the temporal

Revelation is filled with highly symbolic prophecy. That parable has nothing to do with technology.

First a person cannot see a disembodied soul and Christ is His bride’s, spiritual head. Under the alter, is at the feet of Christ. Feet are used to express the gospel of our salvation.

Makes me wonder that when he does come will he find faith or men walking by sight after some work they could perform outwardly .

The number of the Beast,



Who is the beast?

The beast is the 4th beast of Daniel 7, and the nation of the iron legs, Rome.

So the mark is the mark of Rome.

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Who is the man at the head of Rome when this was written?

Caesar

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Who had POWER over Israel for the last 2000 yrs?

Caesar/Bishop of Rome.

It is a number of POWER, over Israel.

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We are told to "count the number".

6 - 6 - 6

600 - 60 - 6

Six hundred....... and sixty.........six

Each time that you say the number, you are counting it.

(1/3....1/3....1/3)

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600....The most powerful number, Satan, the ultimate power behind the number.

60.....The power of Satan as a nation/beast 4th, the Roman Empire/RCC, the nation that is the embodiment of the spirit of Satan.

6.... The man at head of the beast, (4th, iron legs)

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666......The number of Caesar and the Bishop of Rome.

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[Bladerunner]

Read the whole chapter of Rev 13 to get the context. The Beast is a political system, the 10 horns are 10 kings (vs 1). One of the 10 heads receives a deadly wound, meaning a wound to the system (vs 3). The second beast (vs 11) is the anti-Christ, the dragon who gives power to the first beast (vs 4). None of this has happened yet.

So getting to the last verse; "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" (Revelation 13:18). Counting the number of the beast denotes the time of the beast, not a name. For this 2nd beast is also the number (time) of a man, meaning the son of perdition, the dragon, the anti-Christ.

The number (time) of the man (Satan) culminates when the 6th seal is opened, the 6th trumpet sounds, and the 6th vial is poured out. That's all 666 represents, it is not a name of a mark. The mark of the beast is representative of those who receive and worship him, on (in ) their forehead means convinced in their mind (brainwashed), and a mark on their right hand (vs 16) is symbolic of doing his (devils) work. So imo, the number simply denotes the time of the anti-Christ's appearance.

Although I am not sure about the number of the man that you presented. It is only conjectural but yet could very well be right? No one knows and will not know until he, the antichrist, shows his ugly face.

I do agree that each person alive at the time will have a huge decision to make. To LIVE or to DIE !

Having said that, we know that the anti-Christ (Beast) shows up at the 1st seal in Rev. 6. By the time the 'horns' representing nations, arise out of the sea (coming to power),, the antichrist will have worked his way up the ladder with the help of the Dragon (Satan) to the top of a one world government.

As to who the Anti-christ is and where he came from is for another discussion. We know from the Bible he will be an Assaryin, and he will come from the depths of Hell. However, for purposes of clarity, here in this thread, his number will be 666 and everybody throughout the world will know of him.

Each person left behind (after the Harpozo), will have a decision to make. To Live or Die. Will you support him, follow, obey and be loyal to him.? If one says YES then they have taken on the number of the Beast "666". Simple as that!

 

[pckts]

The fact that the electronic crediting and debiting system is already set up and now we have people being implanted under the skin of the hand, demonstrates that we are at the door step. If we can see the stage being set for events that are to take place after the church is gone, then how close are we to the Lord coming for his church?[/COLOR]

Yes I know that the technology for the Mark is already here and we are conditioned to accept it, but we are at least 20 years or more away from beheading people for refusing a governmental I.D system and a false divine being "walking" the earth.

Here is what I believe the Antichrist will be

[video=youtube;jZQHIhWlxjA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZQHIhWlxjA[/video]


Most people do not believe in God or Christ, but they believe in Aliens and CGI videos. Couple more decades of Hologram technology advancements and they can really start to make fantasy "Live TV"

And as far as the Government who instills this mark, I still think we will fight a World War 3 before that entity comes to full power.

The technology for the mark is here, but the conditions are far from ready to institute it.

 

[Bladerunner]

I read a headline today that brought back this thread to mind. I had stated earlier in a post on this thread that one would have to 'buy into ' (believe, obey, be loyal, etc.) to the antichrist in order to bear his number or mark.

I do not believe that a credit card or a (#SSN), driver's license and/or a national ID NUMBER, etc. that might be needed in the future to buy or sell..would make us part of the antichrist and share his number. However, it is not far off from that scenario today, where one has to have all kinds of ID to do anything.

Having said that, there may be a more insidious way to change people's hearts and minds over to the antichrist and it is showing it's ugly head in today's headline; "To prevent serious medical conditions, scientists should be able to edit people's DNA, panel says!

What better way to convert the masses than with a promise of immortality, through 'Gene Splicing'

During the days of Noah, there was evil, corruption and all kinds of idolatry including 'gene splicing'of a sorts. Now before everyone jumps on this, the Bible tells us they (MAN) had 'Angel knowledge' resulting in Chimeras, Giants, etc. Through selective breeding the results although taking a longer time, would be near the same as the Gene Splicing of today..

While antibiotics and other medicine of today, help the body by helping the bodies defensive system to help itself. There is nothing here that changes the Human DNA into something else.

In Gene Splicing everything is changed including the target person and those genes he/she passes on.

Thus Gene Splicing anyway one puts it, creates a new Human whose DNA is not of GOD's design. An abomination!

 

[tanakh]

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[garee]

The number of the Beast,

Who is the beast?

The beast is natural unconverted man influenced by the god this world. Satan has no body.

It would seem clear the number of man is... Six hundred threescore and six. who is also called a beast

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the “number of the beast”: for it is the number of a man; and “his number” is Six hundred threescore and six.

The beast is the 4th beast of Daniel 7, and the nation of the iron legs, Rome.

So the mark is the mark of Rome.

The mark is not a literal mark it is the number of man .The mark of Cain, the restless wander

Who is the man at the head of Rome when this was written?

Caesar

It has nothing to do with the head of Rome.It is the number of unconverted man .

We are told to "count the number".

6 - 6 - 6

600 - 60 - 6

Six hundred....... and sixty.........six

Each time that you say the number, you are counting it.

(1/3....1/3....1/3)

Yes two thirds (666) is used to describe natural unconverted man.
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A couple examples..

2Sa 8:2 And he smote Moab, and measured them with a line, casting them down to the ground; even with two lines measured he to put to death, and with one full line to keep alive. And so the Moabites became David's servants, and brought gifts.

2/3 or 666/1000 represent the beast as in natural man . 1/3 or 333/1000 the believers

And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.Again also he sent unto him another captain of fifty with his fifty. And he answered and said unto him, O man of God, thus hath the king said, Come down quickly.And Elijah answered and said unto them, If I be a man of God, let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.And he sent again a captain of the third fifty with his fifty. And the third captain of fifty went up, and came and fell on his knees before Elijah, and besought him, and said unto him, O man of God, I pray thee, let my life, and the life of these fifty thy servants, be precious in thy sight. 2Ki 1:10

And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. Zec 13:8

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[abcdef]

The beast is natural unconverted man influenced by the god this world. Satan has no body.

It would seem clear the number of man is... Six hundred threescore and six. who is also called a beast

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the “number of the beast”: for it is the number of a man; and “his number” is Six hundred threescore and six.



The mark is not a literal mark it is the number of man .The mark of Cain, the restless wande

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It has nothing to do with the head of Rome.It is the number of unconverted man .

The number has everything to do with Rome.

The beast is ROME.

4th beast, iron legs, a nation.

You cannot disenfranchise the beast from Rome.

I won't disagree that the number is "of" man.

But the number is the number of "a" man, Caesar.

We are told to "count the number".



Yes two thirds (666) is used to describe natural unconverted man.
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A couple examples..

2Sa 8:2 And he smote Moab, and measured them with a line, casting them down to the ground; even with two lines measured he to put to death, and with one full line to keep alive. And so the Moabites became David's servants, and brought gifts.

2/3 or 666/1000 represent the beast as in natural man . 1/3 or 333/1000 the believers

And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.Again also he sent unto him another captain of fifty with his fifty. And he answered and said unto him, O man of God, thus hath the king said, Come down quickly.And Elijah answered and said unto them, If I be a man of God, let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.And he sent again a captain of the third fifty with his fifty. And the third captain of fifty went up, and came and fell on his knees before Elijah, and besought him, and said unto him, O man of God, I pray thee, let my life, and the life of these fifty thy servants, be precious in thy sight. 2Ki 1:10

And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. Zec 13:8

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Zec 13:8, is about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad., see v 7, describes the death of Jesus prophetically. Jn 16:32.

 

[john832]

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The title of this thread is incorrect...

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

666 is not the mark of the Beast, it is the NUMBER of HIS NAME

 

[Ahwatukee]

The title of this thread is incorrect...

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

666 is not the mark of the Beast, it is the NUMBER of HIS NAME

Hi John832,

According to the scripture, the mark, the beasts name and his number are all directly linked together i.e. the number 666 is the number representing his name which is contained within the mark that will go in/on the right hand or the forehead. And without that mark, no one will be able to buy or sell.

Currently, there are different codes, such as country codes, bank codes and branches, etc., that are associated with the cards that are used to electronically to credit and debit (buy and sell) an individuals bank account. I believe that the coming mark will be encoded with the number 666 which is the name of the beast and thereby aligning the person who receives the mark as being a form of worship and belonging to the beast.

Think of it like this just as an example, the debit card representing the mark and the number 666 encoded within the chip of the card, which represents the name of the beast. The mark, the number, which represents his name, all make up the mark.