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JIMBO43

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while where on the topic of baptists again lol... what is your understanding of this scripture dc....


Jesus, therefore, said unto the Jews who believed in him, `If ye may remain in my word, truly my disciples ye are, and ye shall know the truth,
 
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JIMBO43 said:
this will of cause be my good deed for the day :rolleyes:
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Only one good deed....your sure you don't need 2, 3 or 20 to keep your working for salvation? And I told you already...I am not associated with either group you named....nor do I hold to probably 90 to 95% of what they ascribe to....!
 
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JIMBO43 said:
while where on the topic of baptists again lol... what is your understanding of this scripture dc....


Jesus, therefore, said unto the Jews who believed in him, `If ye may remain in my word, truly my disciples ye are, and ye shall know the truth,
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A disciple is a learner or practitioner of one's doctrine....those who are saved and remain (be consistent or steadfast) in the doctrines of Christ will be disciples of Christ (learners and or practitioners of Christ's Doctrine

AND in doing so will make one who has works of Gold, silver and precious stones

THOSE who do not will still saved and have works of wood, hay and stubble

1st Corinthians 3<--accurately describes faithful and unfaithful believers......!
 
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dcontroversal said:
A disciple is a learner or practitioner of one's doctrine....those who are saved and remain (be consistent or steadfast) in the doctrines of Christ will be disciples of Christ (learners and or practitioners of Christ's Doctrine

AND in doing so will make one who has works of Gold, silver and precious stones

THOSE who do not will still saved and have works of wood, hay and stubble

1st Corinthians 3<--accurately describes faithful and unfaithful believers......!
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mate if your one of his i feel this is something you do anyways... daily... a bit like you put your shoes on of a morning,, you do that daily... now 1 cor 3 ... i see this..........God will keep on saving his own,,, to the end.... if they are worthy..:)
 
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mate if your one of his i feel this is something you do anyways... daily... a bit like you put your shoes on of a morning,, you do that daily... now 1 cor 3 ... i see this..........God will keep on saving his own,,, to the end.... if they are worthy..:)
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NO one walks 100% worthy 24/7/365 and I have already been made worthy in Christ...HIS righteousness has been applied to me by faith and blood....I have been justified (past tense) as in rendered legally innocent, SEALED by the Holy Spirit of Promise and Sanctified in Christ positionally before the HEAVENLY FATHER for eternity!
 
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if you say none is worthy then what does this mean ?
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So Jesus was saying to the Jews who had believed Him, “If you abide in My word [continually obeying My teachings and living in accordance with them, then] you are truly My disciples.
 
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JIMBO43 said:
if you say none is worthy then what does this mean ?
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So Jesus was saying to the Jews who had believed Him, “If you abide in My word [continually obeying My teachings and living in accordance with them, then] you are truly My disciples.
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So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say,
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'We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.'​

(Luke 17:10)​
 
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posthuman said:

So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say,
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'We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.'​

(Luke 17:10)​
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lol ive allready said i accept we fall...but unworthy can still be worthy if what ?
 
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John 8:31If you abide in My word [continually obeying My teachings and living in accordance with them
 
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Now the way to look a this issssssssssssssssssssssss,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, god shows mercy to his own... and wrath to those who dont obey his teachings.... its that simple.... now if he has to show his wrath daily theres something wrong and well i guess God must be a continously state of wrath................. wrong...........................


God will probably wait to here from one of his messeners that one of his lost is truly calling him,,, and God attends at once....

hey presto your saved again.:)
 
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JIMBO43 said:
... its that simple.... now if he has to show his wrath daily theres something wrong and well i guess God must be a continously state of wrath................. wrong...........................
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God is a righteous judge,
a God who displays his wrath every day.
(Psalm 7:11)​
 
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JIMBO43 said:
l...but unworthy can still be worthy if what ?
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JIMBO43 said:
John 8:31If you abide in My word [continually obeying My teachings and living in accordance with them
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So you also,
when you have done everything you were told to do,
should say,
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'We are unworthy servants;
we have only done our duty.'​
(Luke 17:10)​
 
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His lovingkindness is everlasting;
His mercy endures forever​
 
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whoever is worthy does not receive mercy --

-- if anyone is worthy, then what they receive is as a wage, earned.

we are servants, not private contractors.
 
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ok so i have a question....ok so i can declare that i am one of the special eight... out of Noahs ark....

Now question is am i boasting ?...


what about all those who are not....?.......



There going to want to know.............why i am so special...............


A do i tell them works dont mean nothing..

Do i tell him faith is befor works.........

Do i tell him all you need is faith......

Now befor you answer,,,,,,please take into consideration that the whole word is important... and not just one context...
 
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posthuman said:
whoever is worthy does not receive mercy --

-- if anyone is worthy, then what they receive is as a wage, earned.

we are servants, not private contractors.
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we are private contractors we are keepers of the faith are we not ????
 
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