I'm not as smart as you all. So here's my question: if condemnation came to all, and all excludes none, then everyone is condemned at the point of conception.
Does not the bible teach that sin is a matter of the heart, the mind.
I've read the bible. I can find hundreds of examples of men and women sinning. I can find condemnation upon idolaters, haters, liars, homosexuals, false teachers, thieves, gossipers, adulterers, murderers, and all kinds of sins.
I read in the bible where the gospel saves. I read of men and women obeying the gospel. It too is a heart, mind matter. It is saving those who hear it and accept it.
I read in the bible about Noah, he walked with God. Job was a righteous man, stayed away from evil. I read about the faithful in Hebrews 11.
All these things are found throughout the bible from Genesis through Revelation.
In all these things, those who are sinners and those who are saved, are men and women who had the mental faculties, the ability to know, to understand, to comprehend.
A lot has been written about the heart, about faith, about love in many threads. Jesus Himself, pointed His disciples to truth of the matter. Here's an example, honor God with the lips, but not in the heart. There's no honor to God.
Just so plain all throughout scriptures. Looks like it all that gets turned upside down by verses that seem to contradict those examples and the pattern throughout scripture.
But not only the examples, but the numerous explicit statements, such as, The soul that sinneth, it shall die. That verse and others like it are twisted. Their obvious meaning is no longer obvious.
I just can't find, and no one has been able to show in scripture an example of a baby who's ever condemned by God. I can find people, young and old, male and female, but never a baby committing sin and being condemned.
Folks, maybe I'm missing the point. Sorry if I am.
Original sin. That's the first sin. The sin that Eve committed. She understood the words of the devil. She understood the command of God. She was able to be enticed. Adam likewise. They ate, they sinned, they died.
And to cast their guilt, their choice, upon all others, is to go against what is so clearly taught in the bible.
(I don't want to get sidetracked. Patience please.
B doesn't the issue of "original" sin lead into: What happens to babies who die before they are able to talk or to speak? If they are condemned, then they are condemned to what? What is their condemnation? Does God just accept those babies who are not in Christ, who are condemned?)
Thank you.