RIDICULOUS CHRISTIAN CLAIMS AND SHAMING JESUS
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Why would I believe the book of Mormon? Why do you keep on bringing up Joseph Smith and the book of Mormon? We are to test things and to do that we use the Bible. From reading the Bible I know dead were raised and people were healed. I can pretty much judge the book of mormon off what the Bible says and can come up with the conclusion that the book of Mormon is pure trash.
Willie,
And then what will that prove? You will hash those out with me.
You've heard it. I am sure.
We believe, or most, that George Washington lived, was first president. That belief is based on evidence surrounding those claims.
Bible and claims are not empty statements, there's evidence that it is what it claims to be.
And then what will that prove? You will hash those out with me.
You've heard it. I am sure.
We believe, or most, that George Washington lived, was first president. That belief is based on evidence surrounding those claims.
Bible and claims are not empty statements, there's evidence that it is what it claims to be.
So it's your judgment. What is that based on? Calling something rubbish, doesn't say much.
What is in the book of Mormon that is rubbish that separates it from a cat talking today.
Why is one rubbish and the other is not?
If someone were to say the bible is rubbish, what would you say to that person?
What is in the book of Mormon that is rubbish that separates it from a cat talking today.
Why is one rubbish and the other is not?
If someone were to say the bible is rubbish, what would you say to that person?
They don't need to speak English to be understood Not a Mormon.
But what is your answer to this: The bible is rubbish?
I am not trying to put out nonsense.
What is about the bible, what do you know about it so that you believe it?
You said people are being raised from the dead in third world countries.
My question was and is: How do you know they are?
Your answer has been: Someone told you.
If belief is based merely on a claim, then what are we left with? Nothing more than any other claim that is made.
Now you are getting the feeling I am a Mormon. I never said I was a Mormon. I never professed such. You can get a feeling that I am, but I hope this will suffice: Joseph Smith is a false prophet. A liar. A blasphemer. A crook. He was a man who taught false doctrine. His teachings lead to death.
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Well far as the bible being rubbish. It is called Faith. I have Faith that the entirety of the Bible is true and is inspired by God. It is all about faith. I have faith that God sticks with his promises He has given us through the Bible. I believe I can test things through the Bible that includes knowing who is a false prophet and who isn't. I believe every Christian is guided by the HS and the Bible. So this is how I know if something is rubbish or not and how I know the bible isn't rubbish.
There are what I consider Christian versions of urban myths that circulate in some groups. They are often started by someone who knew someone else who told them about some miracle or other. You can never seem to pin down the source of the information or actually meet the person who witnessed it or received the benefit of it.
Always trust the word of God over any experience. Most if not all these "spiritual experiences" are of the enemy who can transform into an angel of light including his ministers. Sometimes, they may even be positive experiences all in attempt to get one believing in their experience and not the word of God.
Yes.
And do you believe we can put the bible to test?
I do.
Not to test them now for myself, but for skeptics and agnostics.
Just because someone says a book is inspired by God doesn't mean I have to, nor should I, believe it is based solely on that statement.
And that takes us back to the OP.
Someone says they saw people raised from the dead in a third world country. Really? We have every right to ask the claimants for evidence.
We put Joe Smith's teachings to the test. We measured them up to the bible. We have found they are contrary to the doctrines of the bible.
God does not expect nor want us to believe in His word, the scriptures, simply because we have a gut feeling they are inspired by Him.
The bible makes a claim. Is there evidence that its claim, that it is the word of God, is valid, is credible, true? Yes.
So back to the OP. Damage done by those who claim: My cat talked to me. Michele Obama is a guy. The dead are being raised in third world countries. Don't believe it, until there's evidence.
I agree with the OP.
Lance, my friend. Thank you!
