Why does God hate Esau?

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To hate is not to bless .His blessing of grace was bestowed to Jacob but did not have mercy on Esau .
 

Marano

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Because He could not find anything about him to love.
God doesn't love human beings based on solely anything they do, since He does before they're even born, before they could've done anything good or bad, it's based on His sovereign elective decree.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Remember folks, that Amalek descended from Esau.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Hi Free

But since the Cross? I would put a wink kind of smiley here but don't have one.
Notice that God gave the Israelites victory over the attacking Amalek only as Moses kept the rod of God raised. Victory over the flesh is never won, it is always given. Victory comes from walking by faith in the Spirit and assuming the victory that He has already won. God says that nothing of the flesh can survive, and thank God that He sees to it that nothing of it will.
 

stonesoffire

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Are you thinking, Adam?
Yes, Adam and I can tell you all why I think this.

When Esau gave up his birthright for flesh...I love the KJV for revelation...his name was changed to Edom. If you look at the Hebrew for Edom...it goes back to the root of Adam..It's all about the name changes to see the revelation.

Adam despised his birthright as a Son of God. He knew what he was doing when he took the fruit. Eve was deceived. One reason why the NT says women should have power over her head because of the angels. I think it is fallen angels in this case but I can't produce evidence. Haven't studied it either...not yet.

Now, Jacobs name is changed to Israel after he wrestles with the angel of God. Jesus? Preincarnate Son? I think so. His attitude was he would not let go of God unless he was blessed. Israel translates to he who rules as God.

I agree Randonmon with your post and thank you for your study.

It does irritate me everytime I read men say that Eve was deceived but doesn't mention what Adam did. Adams sin was greater.

Esau should of known that the blessing which comes down from the fathers in Jewry, is actually from the Spirit of God. But, he thought less of it than Jacob.

We are sons of God too...are we pursuing our Sonship? Or letting flesh rule.

Not trying to push perfectionism...but maturity as Sons of God is or should be our goal. We are Sons now...we don't know yet what we will have when we come before our King. But, we can get ready now.
 

stonesoffire

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Notice that God gave the Israelites victory over the attacking Amalek only as Moses kept the rod of God raised. Victory over the flesh is never won, it is always given. Victory comes from walking by faith in the Spirit and assuming the victory that He has already won. God says that nothing of the flesh can survive, and thank God that He sees to it that nothing of it will.
Do you think the iniquity of the Amalekites was fulfilled at the Cross? I've always wondered about that scripture.
 

Locutus

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Cos, he saw Esau by the seashore.

:p
 
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FreeNChrist

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Do you think the iniquity of the Amalekites was fulfilled at the Cross? I've always wondered about that scripture.
Depends on what you mean by "fulfilled".
 

willfollowsGod

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The phrase Jacob I loved, Esau I hated is a Hebrew idiom. Thanks. God bless. :)
 
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Remember folks, that Amalek descended from Esau.
And the Jewish nation decended from to Abram (Abraham)who came out of Amorites and Hittite nations, enemies of Christ. In order to form one new Christian nation out of many nations in respect to the spiritual incorruptible seed of Christ. The same seed passed on to Jacob ending at the birth of Christ. And not many seeds in respect to the flesh (Abraham), not all Israel is Israel as in the same way not all Christians who claim they are, are.

If any man has not the Spirit of Christ in respect to the seed of Christ they simply do not belong to Him

Ezekiel 16:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.


Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
 
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God doesn't love human beings based on solely anything they do, since He does before they're even born, before they could've done anything good or bad, it's based on His sovereign elective decree.
Therefore I am still right. Because He could not find anything about him to love.

Before or after he was born.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Therefore I am still right. Because He could not find anything about him to love.

Before or after he was born.
God's love is not based in the object of His love, it is based in Himself.
 
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God's love is not based in the object of His love, it is based in Himself.
This you have said is false.
God would have to hate himself for this you have said to be true.

Now if you can't understand why I said this then you will have
find some one to explain it to you.

I will not.

I changed my mind....

God's hate is not based in the object of His hate, it is based in Himself.

See???????????? There you go!
 
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miknik5

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Jacob and Esau, according to the flesh are both "Adams" and brothers

there is only one species of man/Adam

GOD called jacob and jacob became a "New creation" when he was called and renamed "Israel"

wven Abram was called out and into a new "identity". Abraham
 
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FreeNChrist

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This you have said is false.
God would have to hate himself for this you have said to be true.

Now if you can't understand why I said this then you will have
find some one to explain it to you.

I will not.

I changed my mind....

God's hate is not based in the object of His hate, it is based in Himself.

See???????????? There you go!

God's love is in no way dependent upon the object of His love.

What God hates is sin. And Esau represents the very principle of sin. He is the very picture of our sinful flesh which stands proudly opposed to everything that is of God. That attitude of self-sufficiency and independence which is the hallmark of the flesh. God hates sin.