Does Anyone Here Teach The Following?

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ForthAngel

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followjesus said:
i honestly think bro it comes from both sides or whatever side really, certainly many folks stay out of the arguments, if a person posts much in the bdf, theres a good chance theyve been on both sides, the right and wrong. thats just my opinion and obsevation though. I know in the past, i sometimes didnt really take the time to really see exactly the words another was using, responded to rashly, and then realized later, that i sort of added to what they were actually saying in my response. i try really hard now to see just what they have said, no more, no less.
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Yeah, we've all been guilty of it. Me especially I'm sure. I have no excuse for it if I do it, just like no one else has. It's one thing to be hardheaded and do it unintentionally, but when your stance has been made crystal clear and the same people still continue to misrepresent you, they should be held accountable for it. If I misrepresent someone and they can show me exactly how, I'm happy to concede. Civility demands this goes both ways though.
 
slave

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preacher4truth said:
Back on track to the OP. Who here teaches these things?? I think it's time to name the false accusations as what they are - false. I've not witnessed the amount of lying about others from professing believers as I have on here and it's shameful.
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This is where God has me bow out....
 
preacher4truth

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The Word is right so you need not pick up the fight emotionally in fighting for it being right shoving it down peoples throats! Still contradictory?
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Yes it is still contradictory. You're just not making sense and the only emotional part is in your post and nothing else. Leave the accusations of emotions out if it, it is unsubtantiated, accusatory and unnecessary. There is no being loyal to his word without also being loyal to doctrine at the same time. Sorry but you're off track there.
 
followjesus

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amen to your post. i just always lately have this ringing in my mind

2 timothy 2:14-26 "Of these things put [FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]them in remembrance, charging [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]but to the subverting of the hearers. [/FONT]15[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. [/FONT][FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]........[/FONT] 19Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

"Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."







 
Angela53510

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I admit, in the first few threads, I really thought people were interested in learning more about the Reformed view. But the third thread, it was an attack thread from the OP.

No, I don't believe any of those things listed in the OP. The more I studied the Reformed viewpoint, the more I read the posts on here, the more I can't believe anyone could support any other viewpoint.
 
1ofthem

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preacher4truth said:
Yes it is still contradictory. You're just not making sense and the only emotional part is in your post and nothing else. Leave the accusations of emotions out if it, it is unsubtantiated, accusatory and unnecessary. There is no being loyal to his word without also being loyal to doctrine at the same time. Sorry but you're off track there.
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Yeah, I'll agree the Word of God is the Word of God and we should stand for it..But your interpretation is not the final say and you are of no authority....So you shouldn't go around trying to rip others to shreds for not believing the exact way you do....just saying :)
 
ForthAngel

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followjesus said:
amen to your post. i just always lately have this ringing in my mind

2 timothy 2:14-26 "Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. ........ 19Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

"Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."
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Good post, and a great reminder..
 
preacher4truth

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followjesus said:
.....or do they? some do certainly fit what you are saying, often though to someone who is more mature and in the obedience of faith, is forgetting there was a time they werent, and really couldnt percieve some of the things they know now that they have grown up. i understand though where your comment is aimed to those actually teaching against the sound biblical things, a if Gods word doesnt apply. there are those who sort of disregard the grace that is necassary to bring us into the widom for the mature though also.

anyways bro, God bless i hope this thread leads to some sort of solution to the issue in the bdf in regards to thae battles and mis representation of others, its sad to see so many warning new members against even attending the bdf because of the constant fighting and lack of patience and support. because some of those new members, and those who refuse to come to the bdf, could both offer things, and learn things if we could figure out how to come together. God bless press on forward Mang....
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I didn't want to leave things one sided. What you said is true, what I shared is also. So, if we're going to be honest then let's own all of it without patronizing or compromising and instead doing it with candor and honesty. Otherwise we're flattering ourselves and spinning our wheels for nought.
 
preacher4truth

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Angela53510 said:
I admit, in the first few threads, I really thought people were interested in learning more about the Reformed view. But the third thread, it was an attack thread from the OP.

No, I don't believe any of those things listed in the OP. The more I studied the Reformed viewpoint, the more I read the posts on here, the more I can't believe anyone could support any other viewpoint.
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Good post, I agree.
 
followjesus

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yeah no man im not compromising or patronizing or anything. i understand what ur saying though. God bless you and amen fourth angel, the scripture always reminds us well, whether we need be reminded of Grace and forgiveness, or righteousness and obedience. God bless you to mang ! have a great evening guys
 
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1ofthem said:
Yeah, I'll agree the Word of God is the Word of God and we should stand for it..But your interpretation is not the final say and you are of no authority....So you shouldn't go around trying to rip others to shreds for not believing the exact way you do....just saying :)
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Thank you...
 
preacher4truth

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followjesus said:
yeah no man im not compromising or patronizing or anything. i understand what ur saying though. God bless you and amen fourth angel, the scripture always reminds us well, whether we need be reminded of Grace and forgiveness, or righteousness and obedience. God bless you to mang ! have a great evening guys
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I don't think you're doing any of it, but we should all consider our human nature and tendencies. I don't believe the quarrel here is concerning words as per your passage shared. It is all about accusations whether they are true or false. My point is that there are too many lies cast upon others.
 
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Angela53510 said:
I admit, in the first few threads, I really thought people were interested in learning more about the Reformed view. But the third thread, it was an attack thread from the OP.

No, I don't believe any of those things listed in the OP. The more I studied the Reformed viewpoint, the more I read the posts on here, the more I can't believe anyone could support any other viewpoint.
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But people do support other viewpoints Angela. And no,it was not an attack on Calvinism. I know what my intent was.I started the first thread because Lynn emailed me and said if I did not begin to listen about Calvinism our friendship would be over.So I started the first listening thread and asked questions. I said from the first I did not believe this way. Then I started the free grace thread and was called everything but a lady by some and the conversation was choked out by the other side. Then I started the last thread which was again hijacked. I have not lied about Calvinism,I have not attacked Calvinism. I did post Wesleys sermon on free grace. I pointed out where the belief was contradictory and when I did that people got nasty really fast. Im surprised by the behavior of certain people. You and I have never shared a cross word,liked each others posts and disagreed without being nasty. smh
 
followjesus

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preacher4truth said:
I don't think you're doing any of it, but we should all consider our human nature and tendencies. I don't believe the quarrel here is concerning words as per your passage shared. It is all about accusations whether they are true or false. My point is that there are too many lies cast upon others.
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i think im gonna follow slave and bow out on this one. lol i honestly dont even know what reformed means anyways so i probly shouldnt have posted :) God bless and thanks for the conversation !
 
preacher4truth

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followjesus said:
i think im gonna follow slave and bow out on this one. lol i honestly dont even know what reformed means anyways so i probly shouldnt have posted :) God bless and thanks for the conversation !
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No problem sorry you've come to a place of disagreement and need to bow out as well.
 
Bladerunner

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preacher4truth said:
Yes it is still contradictory. You're just not making sense and the only emotional part is in your post and nothing else. Leave the accusations of emotions out if it, it is unsubtantiated, accusatory and unnecessary. There is no being loyal to his word without also being loyal to doctrine at the same time. Sorry but you're off track there.
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wow,,what a mouth full...... Where did the doctrine come from...What is the doctrine you speak of. I'll even bet it begins with the letter "D".....

Let me ask another question.....The OT is the past and has nothing to do the present world, so the use of the NT is almost exclusive. Yes or NO
 
preacher4truth

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Bladerunner said:

wow,,what a mouth full...... Where did the doctrine come from...What is the doctrine you speak of. I'll even bet it begins with the letter "D".....

Let me ask another question.....The OT is the past and has nothing to do the present world, so the use of the NT is almost exclusive. Yes or NO
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"There is no being loyal to his word without also being loyal to doctrine at the same time." Sorry that's too much of a mouthful for you.
 
followjesus

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preacher4truth said:
No problem sorry you've come to a place of disagreement and need to bow out as well.
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oh no bro i didnt mean ot that way at all, i just try to follow the heart and keep it true to where im at currently. No offense of any kind intended, and no reason for sorry. God Loves you thats agreeable im sure !
 
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