Does Anyone Here Teach The Following?
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It is even " worse" than that. He was slain from the foundation of the world.
The " problem" is,we don't operate in that dimension,God does.
WOP doctrine claims to understand that dimension,center on their human understanding,make erroneous claims,mock and lampoon any challenger,and make that component their main deal.
It is error by emphasis.
They are blinded that the 2 coexist and overlap ( election vs free will)
The " problem" is,we don't operate in that dimension,God does.
WOP doctrine claims to understand that dimension,center on their human understanding,make erroneous claims,mock and lampoon any challenger,and make that component their main deal.
It is error by emphasis.
They are blinded that the 2 coexist and overlap ( election vs free will)
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From the bible your using, that doesn't mean it's correctly worded. I posted difference bibles that show that.
I agree predestined is true but it's not for man to decide who is or who's not, this predestined thing as ended up being about who is going to heaven and who's going to hell. no sense in it, what God has predestined for His purpose and will and His alone not man.
What is it that you believe is predestined is it you are you one of the Elect?
Or that things that happen from the beginning to the end is part of His plan?
I agree predestined is true but it's not for man to decide who is or who's not, this predestined thing as ended up being about who is going to heaven and who's going to hell. no sense in it, what God has predestined for His purpose and will and His alone not man.
What is it that you believe is predestined is it you are you one of the Elect?
Or that things that happen from the beginning to the end is part of His plan?
Really?
When Jesus prayed in the garden over the cup passing by Him was that your incorrect use of the word predestined? Did Jesus make a choice to submit His will to the will of the Father? When Jesus submitted His will to the Father He received the predestination of all that was promised to Him through the Father.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
When Jesus prayed in the garden over the cup passing by Him was that your incorrect use of the word predestined? Did Jesus make a choice to submit His will to the will of the Father? When Jesus submitted His will to the Father He received the predestination of all that was promised to Him through the Father.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Predestined means God had a salvation plan for the world through Jesus life,
Jesus had a choice to follow or to reject the cup given to Him. He prayed that God take it away three times. God said No, Jesus accepted God's decision.
We have the same choice...accept God's plan for our lives or rebell and join Satan's army.
Jesus had a choice to follow or to reject the cup given to Him. He prayed that God take it away three times. God said No, Jesus accepted God's decision.
We have the same choice...accept God's plan for our lives or rebell and join Satan's army.
I have to say, though healing appears to happen in some fellowships it is patchy.
I have read many testimonies of fellowships who believed the theology, but nothing
ever happened.
We had a young man come to our church from the Toronto blessing talking about
healing in the streets, in hospitals etc. except it was always an expectation that
never delivered.
This seems to be the pattern. Healings for back pain, leg pain, and minor ailments,
but very little for cancer or serious terminal illness, except in specific cases that
the Lord intervenes on. We are a charismatic baptist church.
I have heard too many who believe against what they see, and still they believe.
Gods will is set, and gifts of grace are rare. But this is much harder to accept than
the tap is always on we just need to apply it right. But give it 10 years and most wake
up and leave the church or change their position.
I have read many testimonies of fellowships who believed the theology, but nothing
ever happened.
We had a young man come to our church from the Toronto blessing talking about
healing in the streets, in hospitals etc. except it was always an expectation that
never delivered.
This seems to be the pattern. Healings for back pain, leg pain, and minor ailments,
but very little for cancer or serious terminal illness, except in specific cases that
the Lord intervenes on. We are a charismatic baptist church.
I have heard too many who believe against what they see, and still they believe.
Gods will is set, and gifts of grace are rare. But this is much harder to accept than
the tap is always on we just need to apply it right. But give it 10 years and most wake
up and leave the church or change their position.